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Posted on 09-02-14 06:52:52 PM (last edited by devin at 09-02-14 06:59:53 PM) Link | Quote
The palette thing is a property of the NES hardware, not a game-related glitch
Originally posted by http://wiki.nesdev.com/w/index.php/PPU_attribute_tables
Nametable tiles are 8x8 pixels, and the left-side clipping window in PPUMASK ($2001) is 8 pixels wide, but attribute table tiles are 16x16 pixels. This is why games that use the horizontal or vertical mirroring mode for diagonal scrolling often have color artifacts on one side of the screen (on the right side in Super Mario Bros. 3; on the trailing side of the scroll in Kirby's Adventure; at the top and bottom in Super C).


As for "wrong" tiles, IIRC SMB3 doesn't update the rightmost tiles until they're scrolled far enough on to the screen, for the same reason as the palette thing (since they typically aren't visible on an actual TV screen until then anyway). I don't really think it's worth documenting; we aren't really interested in documenting glitches or programming quirks that don't have anything to do with more relevant content, especially when those are solely due to hardware limitations.

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Posted on 09-03-14 02:39:11 PM Link | Quote
Is that a common thing in NES games, though? (especially as multi-direction scrolling with graphic HUD was kind of pushing it for the NES)

Little Nemo is another popular game with the same problem.

Another thing I'm not sure about... I know we can document obscure things in game that might seem hidden but I'm not sure if this is obscure enough: in Breath of Fire 1, after the second boss (in the Nanai Dungeon), the room starts to shake after you remove the key from the machine. If you stay in room for about 10 seconds (more than enough time for the average player to walk to the escape teleporter to continue the game), the machine tells you to get out.
After the message it will repeat if you stay another 20(?) seconds. And if you continue to stay for another minute, it will repeat a third time after you which you will get (the game's only?) non-combat Game Over.
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Posted on 09-03-14 06:56:48 PM Link | Quote
The Breath of Fire thing is interesting enough to me.
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Posted on 09-04-14 06:37:45 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by KingMike
Is that a common thing in NES games, though? (especially as multi-direction scrolling with graphic HUD was kind of pushing it for the NES)

It happened in nearly every game that did scrolling in both directions.
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Posted on 09-05-14 02:57:27 AM (last edited by Fuzn at 09-05-14 02:59:31 AM) Link | Quote
Video

So there's a secret Options menu in Gran Turismo 5 (and apparently some extra unlisted parts for vehicles, including Super Hard \ Super Soft tires, 5 stages of engine tuning, 5 stages of Turbos, a broken Nitrous option).

The secret options menu seems to only affect what is selectable or not in Arcade Mode, and might be a leftover from a previous demo version. Perhaps a branched off build had 'Favorites' scratched out and replaced with something else so they could make a fairly quick demo build without too much hassle, considering that it allows you to set AI cars, tracks, and vehicles available to the player.


EDIT: Also of worth mentioning is that I think Gran Turismo 6 marks the first time any iteration of Moon Over The Castle (the GT series' theme in Japan) has actually made it into the US.
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Posted on 09-08-14 03:43:38 PM Link | Quote
http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/5269/t610826-no-4-sim-avenue/

In the console game 'The Sims', there are seven prebuilt houses for players to use in freemode. However, lot 4 is inaccessible. There is speculation that this is unintended--it would be cool to see if someone could investigate and find out what actually is happening
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Posted on 09-09-14 02:35:47 AM Link | Quote
http://amielleon.dreamwidth.org/140514.html#cutid3

Unused conversations in Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War. I know the Alec and Ethlin, and the Noishe and Alec conversation are definitely unused, but I don't know anything about the other conversations.
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Posted on 09-09-14 07:44:06 AM (last edited by devin at 09-09-14 10:00:56 AM) Link | Quote
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Posted on 09-09-14 06:43:13 PM Link | Quote
Linguica documented an oddity in the Doom source I've never seen mentioned anywhere else:

http://www.doomworld.com/vb/source-ports/69936-p-noisealert/

A comment (assuming it wasn't added by Bernd Kreimeier...) before the P_NoiseAlert function claims that monster cries are supposed to alert other monsters. That's not the case and the function is only used for player gunfire. Here's a video of a hack he made to restore the behavior:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V8mmoKWJNE

It seems like a pretty cool feature! As pointed out in the Doomworld thread, though, it was probably dropped because it would totally wreck sound propagation through levels, since monsters would recursively alert one another and make most sound blocking lines useless.
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Posted on 09-09-14 07:05:17 PM Link | Quote
That's pretty neat! I've had an interest in the technical details of the Doom engine for a while now, so it's neat to see stuff still being just noticed after all these years.

I can't say "sloppy and not characteristic of [Carmack]" makes a particular amount of sense though, given that I can't even count the number of strange quirks in the engine that were outright the result of Carmack being sloppy, but hey

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Posted on 09-10-14 01:25:25 AM (last edited by Sik at 09-10-14 01:25:37 AM) Link | Quote
Maybe it made the game too hard and was removed for that reason? Note how in the video it doesn't just wake up the other monster that was there, but also the monsters from the other room (which you wouldn't even know are there).
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Posted on 09-11-14 12:44:52 PM Link | Quote
Fire Emblem loads the unchanged "Rekka no Ken" graphic in the US version, yet not the EU version.
Even though both kept the small logo made redundant by its English main logo.

No surprise. Vague very early info suggests Nintendo considered sticking closer to the original name.
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Posted on 09-24-14 01:18:25 AM Link | Quote
In Super Smash Bros. 3DS, it still contains the audio for the audience chanting for the Ice Climbers', and can be heard through normal gameplay via a glitch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXSLNJ696bU

For some reason, if you're playing as Villager against three Dr. Mario and you KO them while at a high damage yourself, the audience will use the otherwise unused Ice Climber chant.

Only time will tell if this will be in the English version of the game too.
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Posted on 09-24-14 10:27:29 PM Link | Quote
The annotations in that video only make matters more confusing.

For what matters, it does also sound like "nana popo" to me, and looking at the comments in its Nico Nico counterpart, it does seem like I'm not the only one.
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Posted on 09-25-14 11:44:50 AM Link | Quote
I was flipping through old DAikatana pictures when I saw these images from 1997, three years before the game was released:





They reminded me a bit of the muliplayer level "Wizard's Roost" from the final game, so I decided to take a look and see if I was right:





They look quite similar. In particular, the castle it Wizard's Roost's exterior is very close to the castle seen in pre-release screenshots. If you squint, you can make out the door to the center tower and the path leading to the interior on the roof in the 1997 screenshot.

The interior shot of a castle in 1997 matches the room with the Stavros' Stave in Wizard's Roost. The tetxturing is completely different, but the architecture is exactly the same.

Basically, Wizard's Roost is actually a modified level that was made as far back as 1997. I'm not sure if this is wiki worthy, but it's cool nonetheless.

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Posted on 09-28-14 07:26:49 PM Link | Quote
that's why we have the prerelease section, my friend

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Posted on 10-01-14 01:22:47 AM (last edited by TotallyTim at 10-01-14 02:40:40 AM) Link | Quote
I've found what I believe to be the arena model from Mario Party 1's Coin Shower Flower minigame in Mario Party 2. I'm pretty sure that this isn't used.



Turns out that flower model is still present as well! Actually, it seems that all of the models from the original minigame are still here (water, leaf boat shadows, and the leaf boat itself).
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Posted on 10-03-14 01:37:29 AM (last edited by Hacc at 10-03-14 01:40:39 AM) Link | Quote
I still to this day haven't locked down the exact method, but it's possible to load the JP title screen of Ape Escape in the American version via the controller (it involves all of the buttons, I think). I even tested it on my console to make sure it wasn't an emulation bug. The game will crash after you make a selection at the title screen. I only know of one or two other people, who've experienced the same thing on their game (they had commented on one of my YT videos for the game). I'll be sharing some new finds in the near future, though (it's a fun game to hack).
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Posted on 10-08-14 06:12:55 AM (last edited by Eon at 10-08-14 08:56:53 AM) Link | Quote
Bloody Roar Primal Fury (US) has text for the cut progressive scan option suggested by an old interview.

Edit: Nevermind the build date.
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Posted on 10-09-14 05:59:56 PM Link | Quote
Someone over GTPlanet ripped GTPSP car textures. This is the one for Ferrari F2007: http://109.imagebam.com/download/R61BeSs-PHy1pMuWljqaIQ/35132/351312971/car_3.PNG

If you look at Image09054B40_0905BD90.png on the linked picture you can see the controversial barcode (on actual car), which is not in the actual game:



The barcode is not in GT5P or GT5 either.
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line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
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Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 341 warnings and 0 errors!


The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

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Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
Latest HTML specification: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/
Validate your HTML documents: http://validator.w3.org/nu/
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English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/blob/master/README/LOCALIZE.md