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Aeonic Butterfly Member Level: 27 Posts: 1/198 EXP: 103865 For next: 12294 Since: 12-27-10 From: Ridgecrest, CA Since last post: 428 days Last activity: 392 days

Posted on 12-30-10 05:05:41 PM, in Zelda: 1, 2, 3. Link

Originally posted by Flying Omelette I realize this is a topic for Zelda 1, 2, and 3, but I felt this was still the best place to post this. There's some more unused dialogue in Zelda: Ocarina of Time, according to this site. (Scroll down to "text dump oddities".) Once again, I could be wrong, but I certainly don't recognize any of the things the author claims are unused. To be honest, the Door to the Past/Present/Future text always fascinated me. Weren't there roughly two versions of Zelda 64/OoT, with the other being dumped in favor of Ocarina? I always wanted to see what the original game ended up being. =/ Also would like to mention Darunia has text for when you find the Fire Tunic before you rescue him, but... the event doesn't trigger the shortcut opening to Death Mountain. Makes it a pain in the arse.

Aeonic Butterfly Member Level: 27 Posts: 2/198 EXP: 103865 For next: 12294 Since: 12-27-10 From: Ridgecrest, CA Since last post: 428 days Last activity: 392 days	Posted on 12-30-10 10:56:53 PM, in Zelda: 1, 2, 3. (last edited by Aeonic Butterfly at 12-31-10 12:11 AM) Link
	Originally posted by Prince Kassad You mean his son who rolls around in Goron City? I'm pretty sure you can purchase the Fire Tunic from the shop. Yeah, I bought the Tunic THEN saw Darunia. Didn't work =P He never gave me the tunic (still had my own), and never opened the shortcut. Edited: I can speak English, believe it or not.

Aeonic Butterfly Member Level: 27 Posts: 3/198 EXP: 103865 For next: 12294 Since: 12-27-10 From: Ridgecrest, CA Since last post: 428 days Last activity: 392 days	Posted on 01-06-11 04:43:04 AM, in Gaspar confirmed to be cut 8th character for Chrono Trigger Link
	I don't believe it, it's still Schala, I tell yee! XD *shot* Seriously, awesome. I'm glad this found was found out =P It also makes sense, because while the unused overworld sprites in the Pre don't highly resemble him, they do if you squint your eyes a little =P Wonder how he would've been implemented...?

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Posted on 01-23-11 12:36:13 PM, in Weird Discoveries Link

Originally posted by vinnyboiler I think I found an weird discovery in SM64, in the Wet Dry World background. It seems a bit of a uncanny coincidence that it just happened to feature a pyramid with 4 pilers surrounding it. It's probably just a Easter-Egg or something May not be quite that, but I love things like this. Things of The Scenery Doing It and revealing all the stuff that didn't make it out of beta, but designers forgot to change. =P I mean, look at Zelda 64. The Adult Market shows the original Hyrule Market without the Happy Mask Man Shop. See here: http://zeldapower.com/images/beta_oot/5betahyrulemarkt.bmp You can see the same market if you stand outside Hyrule Castle Town from Hyrule Field and look close enough at the images on the way in. =P ...Yeah, way too much free time. ^^;; (Its really become a pain to find beta Zelda 64 shots since the Zelda Coalition and Zelda Chaos went byebye... ^^;; )

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Posted on 01-23-11 10:50:58 PM, in Weird Discoveries (last edited by Aeonic Butterfly at 01-23-11 10:56 PM) Link

Originally posted by GlitterBerri Originally posted by Aeonic Butterfly (Its really become a pain to find beta Zelda 64 shots since the Zelda Coalition and Zelda Chaos went byebye... ^^;; ) They're not very well organized right now and don't have any commentary, Aeonic Butterfly, but I've reuploaded all the beta screens from ZSO as well as all the prerendered backgrounds found in OoT at my webpage. Hope that helps. =) I believe as well that ZSO is still mostly intact in archive form at www.archive.org. Thank you, Glitter. Say, you're also from ZSO, right? XD Seen you before. If you need any help reorganizing, I'd be interested. ^^ (Would it be out of the interest area of TCRF to upload all the pre-release stuff, sicne it was technically cut? But hardly anything can be recovered from the released game ^^; )

Aeonic Butterfly Member Level: 27 Posts: 6/198 EXP: 103865 For next: 12294 Since: 12-27-10 From: Ridgecrest, CA Since last post: 428 days Last activity: 392 days	Posted on 01-24-11 02:39:32 PM, in Weird Discoveries Link
	Originally posted by Prince Kassad You might also be interested in this. That is a huuuge help, thank you. =)

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Posted on 01-24-11 09:44:52 PM, in Weird Discoveries Link

I agree with Glitter on this one; I would think a subsection would be a great idea, rather than a whole 'nother Wiki. It'd be more sane to keep organized, and the Internet really hasn't had a successful source for all things prerelease game. I mean, X-Cult was a valiant attempt, but as far as I'm concerned, the project is practically dead, and Unseen 64 has a more schizophrenic layout than I can create.

Aeonic Butterfly Member Level: 27 Posts: 8/198 EXP: 103865 For next: 12294 Since: 12-27-10 From: Ridgecrest, CA Since last post: 428 days Last activity: 392 days	Posted on 01-27-11 03:34:33 PM, in Weird Discoveries Link
	If the subpage thing is a go, can I go ahead and start organizing the Zelda 64 prerelease stuff? Or shouldI hold off? =)

Aeonic Butterfly Member Level: 27 Posts: 9/198 EXP: 103865 For next: 12294 Since: 12-27-10 From: Ridgecrest, CA Since last post: 428 days Last activity: 392 days	Posted on 01-27-11 04:23:48 PM, in Weird Discoveries Link
	Speculation A-go-go? To be honest, no idea exactly what to call it. Past Peeking? =P (And seriously, if this is given a go, is it okay to note some of the rooms that also appeared in the Zelda 64 debug (Room 120, 121 are seen in the magazine pics as a Stalfos fight and a supposed temple thing, then the Stalfos Bossfight, from the A+B Era)

Aeonic Butterfly Member Level: 27 Posts: 10/198 EXP: 103865 For next: 12294 Since: 12-27-10 From: Ridgecrest, CA Since last post: 428 days Last activity: 392 days	Posted on 01-27-11 09:07:33 PM, in Weird Discoveries Link
	If we were to just put up screens that were relevant to the final ROM? (Again, Rooms 121 and 120 to the Debug, and Ganon's Castle appearing in A+B Development)

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Posted on 01-31-11 12:24:47 AM, in On Solitaire and Game Numbers Link

http://tcrf.net/Solitaire Yeah yeah, was browsing the Wiki. =P I noticed the mention of Solitaire having a game number screen. I remember Win 3.1 had a version of Solitaire where you could invoke the number screen; maybe its not unused, but leftovers from an older version? Yes, I remember this because Tut's Tomb also used numbering, and I remember comparing the numbers when I was little. =P If anyone still has access to 3.1, could they double check my statements for me?

Aeonic Butterfly Member Level: 27 Posts: 12/198 EXP: 103865 For next: 12294 Since: 12-27-10 From: Ridgecrest, CA Since last post: 428 days Last activity: 392 days	Posted on 02-06-11 10:01:31 PM, in Xenogears was Chrono Trigger 2? (last edited by Aeonic Butterfly at 02-07-11 07:57 PM) Link
	This was something I was speculating with my sister about for sometime; all I got is theoretical reasons for it being CT 2, nothing hard and firm. Things like Spoiler: the sages appearances, or similarities of some plots or music to the original CT (the... realms... forget names... remind me of Zeal. I'm tired XP )

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Posted on 02-06-11 10:13:11 PM, in Prototypes! Link

Originally posted by Teflon Some PC ones off of the top of my head: Doom 3 E3 Alpha Quake 2 Q2Test (demo released before the game came out) Quake 3 IHV test Unreal 1995 Tech Demo Unreal 1998 Beta Unreal Tournament "Beta" (more like an alpha but oh well) Unreal Tournament 2003 late beta Diablo Alpha (IIRC this is back before Blizzard bought the devs) I find the Unreal protos fascinating. If its worth noting on the Wiki, the readme to a few of them mentions they were also in development for the DEC Alpha.

Aeonic Butterfly Member Level: 27 Posts: 14/198 EXP: 103865 For next: 12294 Since: 12-27-10 From: Ridgecrest, CA Since last post: 428 days Last activity: 392 days	Posted on 02-07-11 07:57:31 PM, in Xenogears was Chrono Trigger 2? Link
	Originally posted by Rick We do have a spoiler tag. It's [.spoiler] [./spoiler], just remove the periods at the beginning of the tags. Thanks, edited ^^;

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Posted on 03-15-11 09:52:34 PM, in Super Mario Galaxy 1 & 2 Link

Originally posted by Peardian Sorry, but that seems like a complete stretch. First of all, Deadly Creatures was developed by THQ, who had absolutely nothing to do with SMG. Second, the game came out 2 years after SMG and after SMG2 had already been announced. What's more, the creatures in Deadly Creatures are real animals, and the art style is much different. Edit: Also, I should mention... I finished. I've gone through every model in both SMG games now. There is nothing left to report, at least as far as models are concerned. I applaud your work. Good job. =)

Aeonic Butterfly Member Level: 27 Posts: 16/198 EXP: 103865 For next: 12294 Since: 12-27-10 From: Ridgecrest, CA Since last post: 428 days Last activity: 392 days	Posted on 04-20-11 12:48:37 AM, in Fun with testing Windows Solitaire. Or something. Link
	Curiosity, since I think I noticed this before, or my memory's going bad. Does the 3x version have the Enter Game Number, or is that bad memory?

Aeonic Butterfly Member Level: 27 Posts: 17/198 EXP: 103865 For next: 12294 Since: 12-27-10 From: Ridgecrest, CA Since last post: 428 days Last activity: 392 days	Posted on 04-20-11 12:54:27 AM, in Ocarina of Time Prerelease Footage (last edited by Aeonic Butterfly at 04-20-11 01:05 AM) Link
	This is interesting; been a while since it's all been collected in one spot. Thank you for providing translations of the text, as well XD =) (Give kudos to your friend, as well XD ^^) ETA: Looking at the 98 stuff, video 1 at :18 seconds in... what is the weird white-blue thing in the upperleft corner, in the Kakariko shot? XD; Is it the dog lady, or what?

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Posted on 04-20-11 03:02:13 PM, in Ocarina of Time Prerelease Footage (last edited by Aeonic Butterfly at 04-20-11 03:10 PM) Link

Originally posted by Sabin Awesome find, xdan. By the way, has anyone determined the date of the untextured zora model? I know it was said to be one of the oldest, but is it from the same time as the other ones that were found? Is there even a way to determine the dates? It might be feasible to check and see what bones it uses; might not be entirely accurate (they could have rerigged it later), but it'd give a good idea. Thanks xdaniel, btw. That looks like it. (The Zora uses 26 limbs, inline with a lot of the older NPCs, like the Beta Saria model, Beta Fado, and object_human, amongst other alpha NPCs, like blue dress lady above. I have UoT open XD)

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Posted on 04-20-11 10:45:49 PM, in Untitled Fighter Prototype "BB" Link

Originally posted by Sabin Edit: Nothing exciting, just a garbage ROM. Anyways, I'm not sure if there's anything that can be found via hacking the game. I'm no good at hacking. Could this just be a bootlegged/hacked ROM gone wrong? Just thought I would throw this post on this forum. And also, a shout out to my Ex-ZSO pals Xdaniel and GB! Hey, welcome from the ZSO =D My name was the same there as it is here, and formally, TerminaSageZelda, incase it rings a bell. Nice to see you XD

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Posted on 04-21-11 03:55:48 AM, in Untitled Fighter Prototype "BB" Link

Originally posted by Torentsu Originally posted by Aeonic Butterfly Originally posted by Sabin Edit: Nothing exciting, just a garbage ROM. Anyways, I'm not sure if there's anything that can be found via hacking the game. I'm no good at hacking. Could this just be a bootlegged/hacked ROM gone wrong? Just thought I would throw this post on this forum. And also, a shout out to my Ex-ZSO pals Xdaniel and GB! Hey, welcome from the ZSO =D My name was the same there as it is here, and formally, TerminaSageZelda, incase it rings a bell. Nice to see you XD I remember you. I was LeeChaolan at ZSO. Definitely rings a bell =) Glad to see you here ^^

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line 669 column 11 - Warning: <a> cannot copy name attribute to id
Info: Document content looks like HTML Proprietary
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The table summary attribute should be used to describe
the table structure. It is very helpful for people using
non-visual browsers. The scope and headers attributes for
table cells are useful for specifying which headers apply
to each table cell, enabling non-visual browsers to provide
a meaningful context for each cell.

The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
. You may also want to try
"http://www.cast.org/bobby/" which is a free Web-based
service for checking URLs for accessibility.

You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

To learn more about HTML Tidy see http://tidy.sourceforge.net
Please fill bug reports and queries using the "tracker" on the Tidy web site.
Additionally, questions can be sent to html-tidy@w3.org
HTML and CSS specifications are available from http://www.w3.org/
Lobby your company to join W3C, see http://www.w3.org/Consortium