Hi there! Just... throwin' my 2 centsi n.
Originally posted by Conte de Contis But it is something of undenidable: many people don't apprecciate the classics and watch only anime. Especially those who have catgirls, multiple monster (a possible rip-off of Pokemon), fights (a possible rip-off of Dragon Ball (don't forget there is also the first DB, not only DBZ)), st00pid creatures like This who make stupid discussion, allied with a magic girl, etc...
A few little points to make, as someone who enjoys cartoons both American and Japanese: Anime is not all catgirls/'mons/brawling, all the time. Similarly, the people who watch anime aren't all uncultured boors that just want to see boobs, monsters, and blood.
That said: While I can't vouch for the various 'mon series as not-Pokemon-ripoffs, the suggestion that anime with fight scenes are ripping off of Dragon Ball offends me to no end. D: Dragon Ball is not the first anime to have fight scenes. Further still, it isn't even the first anime to have epic, drawn-out fight scenes. Dig up Hokuto no Ken, that's the Ur-example of testosterone-laden man-on-man action. And by action, I mean combat.
Originally posted by Conte de Contis Even with changed dubbing, they look diseducative. Diseducative not because they are repetitive, fights, violence or monsters, but... the content! The content, in my opinion, is missing in many anime.
Grave of the Fireflies: one of the greatest anti-war statements ever made.
Berserk: Yeah, it's violent and horrific, but this show is a masterpiece of character development. Is it a children's show? Fuck no, but animated does not mean "for kids".
Key: The Metal Idol: Science-fiction drama about a young robot(?) girl's quest for 30,000 friends.
Evangelion: I can't stand it myself, but it's what happens when you take a giant robot anime and turn it inside-out.
This is the start of a short list of shows that will generate emotional response and actual -thought- from their viewers. Each one will hit you in the gut with a different kind of sensation -- sorrow, pain, rage, and good ol' fashioned fear.
Originally posted by Conte de Contis Ok, some other anime have an unique story, yes? Well, i actually see none of them in my channels, here, in Italy. [...] In this period they are not even broadcasting any kind of cartoons anymore if not afternoon (Two times Spongebob? For an hour? What) or early morning (they make classic cartoons, but i'm not getting up at 7:00 :mad The only alternative is Boomerang, but... no, with my situation i'm not going t waste money. Well, it's not the case of most animes, but also for stuff like CN or likes, in my opinion: With AdobeFlash you can do better than that crap.
Re: No good anime on tv: There's tons of places all over the internet to stream video.
Re: An hour of spongebob: And you thought ANIME was bad.
Re: Adobe Flash... if I'm not mistaken, most shows on CN *ARE* animated in Adobe Flash, with a few shining exceptions in a sea of mediocrity and live-action.
Originally posted by Conte de Contis
Do you think Miyazaki's movies is a good start? I met some people who consider them wonderful.
Miyazaki's a beautiful place to start. My personal recommendations are Princess Mononoke, Porco Rosso, and The Cat Returns. If you can get your hands on Nausciaa and the Valley of Wind as a manga, read it. You'll be set for hours of entertainment that way, as opposed to just two from the movie.
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