ReiNi さよなら＊へヴン Level: 124 Posts: 987/4444 EXP: 21768012 For next: 68589 Since: 07-21-07 Since last post: 6.7 years Last activity: 3.3 years

Posted on 09-06-08 03:53:35 PM Link | Quote

The signature and the useless header text are staying. ---------------------------- Well, I messed a bit with the sattellaview before... but nothing much besides playing some BS games (and the satellaview cartridge...) The whole concept of it confuses me though... but yeah probably I should've checked for recordings of it in nico... Games I've found playable... well there are the BS Zelda games which have been hacked and work pretty well (at least I played through the entire BS Zelda and I found no problems in it...) and Super Mario bros. 3 which for some reason waits for a long time in the first screen, no idea why that happens anyway... also the different parts of the game are in different roms... that confuses me too... (The ones based from a link to the past do that too I think) I should look for the BS Kirby games too... It seems only the baseball game is playable or something. ____________________

kiddo User Level: 9 Posts: 3/11 EXP: 2576 For next: 586 Since: 09-05-08 Since last post: 10.2 years Last activity: 10.0 years

Posted on 09-06-08 05:10:13 PM Link | Quote

I can explain quite a few of the deals with the ROMs, aye. I'll start with the Mario stuff because that'll be the easiest to seg-way into the broader scope of Satellaview. The reason BS Super Mario Collection 3 (Actually from a series, there's a 1, 2, and 4 that as far as I know are undumped) stays at it's first screen for so long is by design - Satellaview games were meant to play during a specific timeframe. In that one's case I think it was about the 5th minute mark...? Either way, most emulators just set the "clock" at the beginning of the hour - technically something unlikely to have happened on real hardware, considering many of the games took at least 3 minutes to download on the slow Satellites. The reason different parts of games are in different ROMs is a bit difficult to explain, but think of it this way - since the gimmick of the Satellaview was radio, the obvious line of thinking came along of "Radio shows are episodic! How about some of the downloads?". In particular, the majority of the games which used the SoundLink to play steamed audio and voice were split into "episodes", mostly of 4, although there are definite exceptions like BS Tantei Club BS Parlor! Parlor!. The ROM dumps in question are of these episodes, and usually it'd be difficult to combine them all into one. The BS Zelda ROMs do indeed have massive amounts of hacking applied to them. The original ROM dumps of the BS Zeldas going around are "Week 3" of Map 1, which is likely good (The glitches that needed to be fixed are mostly Week 4-related, and could be explained in that Week 4 may have still been being worked on....), a hacked dump of an unknown(but likely 1st Week) Map 2 Build, the Sekiban ROMs (Which do not run right on anything without the hacks. It's difficult to tell why, though... All 4 weeks being bad dumps seems unlikely to me. Perhaps it was encryption or Copy Protection? The hacks get a way around this, but it bloats the ROMs up a pretty high amount), and a few different dumps of a download of Kamigami no Triforce (More or less the same as the standard game.) As for the BS Kirbies... sorry to burst your bubble, but the non-baseball ROMs are "bad dumps". Missing important, key data, and apparently unsalvagable. I've tried. They'll need a re-dump effort.

Apofisu Level: 32 Posts: 152/193 EXP: 197339 For next: 9103 Since: 07-03-07 Since last post: 11.0 years Last activity: 9.1 years	Posted on 09-09-08 11:23:59 AM Link | Quote
	Wow. Great work explaining all this. It's nice to see a new guy who knows his stuff.

kiddo User Level: 9 Posts: 4/11 EXP: 2576 For next: 586 Since: 09-05-08 Since last post: 10.2 years Last activity: 10.0 years

Posted on 09-09-08 06:39:21 PM Link | Quote

Thanks. ^^; I try to make sure everything I got is backed up by a source, whether by Japanese recordings or Game Code within ROMs. There are spots where I think I could be error-prone though. If anyone has any questions about the subject, feel free to ask them. I can provide an explanation if I think I know it, and some examples if I can prove it. For example, most of my info on what was broadcasted is backed up by NicoNicoDouga uploads of Satellaview recordings, consisting of Broadcasted games' gameplay and radio shows. Info on what I'm certain we don't have well-archived is backed up by JP Schedule archives, although their incompleteness showed to me when "Konae" was found...