Sukasa Level: 123 Posts: 360/4326 EXP: 20938083 For next: 293183 Since: 07-07-07 Since last post: 1.1 years Last activity: 1.1 years	Posted on 07-08-08 04:31:38 PM Link | Quote
	Profile | Send PM Real Life Comics p2pnet.net My Site Sounds like you have a bad cooling fan in either your PSU, CPU, or wherever you have a fan in that system. We had a system here, where both the CPU fan and the PSU fan got jammed due to dust, and we very nearly cooked the CPU. If you can, check the CPU temperature in the BIOS, since that could very well be the problem ____________________

Hiryuu Level: 207 Posts: 3803/14435 EXP: 127636530 For next: 2147624 Since: 07-06-07 Since last post: 11.8 years Last activity: 11.7 years

Posted on 07-08-08 04:45:30 PM (last edited by Fate Testarossa at 07-08-08 01:55 PM) Link | Quote

Do you really have two hard drives on that system? If that's really the case, one of your hard drives is WAY over operating temperature. 72C on a hard drive is not healthy...over 50C throws up flags for me. Have you opened it up and cleaned it out at all in the last...year? Not saying you have or have not but it's something I've seen before in fixing up comps that had CAKED dust on theirs and just cleaning/airing it out was enough to drop the temperature dramatically. The fact that the comp's processor fan, likely the case of the sound, is blaring is possible evidence of this or that the fan's bearing is going south and you just need to replace out a fan for about 20+ bucks depending on your socket. Getting a new comp isn't necessarily bad, especially those stats, but I wouldn't let your compy go to waste if you can allow it. EDIT: Additionally, you might consult your system logs for that memory dump you mentioned, or STOP error. Should be able to get there by right-clicking My Computer, Manage, Event Viewer, System, and looking up around the time that your system died and copy and pasting the error here. ____________________

Hiryuu Level: 207 Posts: 3804/14435 EXP: 127636530 For next: 2147624 Since: 07-06-07 Since last post: 11.8 years Last activity: 11.7 years	Posted on 07-08-08 04:55:49 PM Link | Quote
	Check that EDIT I made a moment ago about that STOP error. ____________________

Hiryuu Level: 207 Posts: 3805/14435 EXP: 127636530 For next: 2147624 Since: 07-06-07 Since last post: 11.8 years Last activity: 11.7 years

Posted on 07-08-08 06:09:07 PM (last edited by Fate Testarossa at 07-08-08 03:11 PM) Link | Quote

72 degrees Celsius = 161.6 degrees Fahrenheit. 100C is boiling. Not quite standard room temp. Your SMART, likely, is throwing an error about your hard disk failing, which definitely is showing with a temperature that's well outside the bounds of normal operating temperature. You're probably getting low or poor ventilation if your processor fan is going south as well, especially if you don't have fans on the case itself outside of the power supply. The likelihood is, like Shadic's sister, that hard drive is about to go. You need to get anything and everything you want off that drive and back it up before it goes. The likelihood is it will start clicking and making audible noises soon (if it hasn't already) signaling the end of its life. It's already showing data errors with bad blocks, so if you have a DVD writer or something like that, I would start backing things up. Depending on how big that hard drive is (hard drive 0, probably your first hard drive which is usually C) you may want to consider porting whatever to an external hard drive and pitching the one you have in there and replacing it with another one. They are relatively cheap anymore (about 89 bucks for 500GB internal, Seagate or Maxtor is how I'd go). If you do get it open and determine which hard drive it is...tell me if it's a Western Digital. Additionally, get DiskCheckup to find out what exactly the SMART values are showing. Post anything that shows WATCH/WARN/CRITICAL or anything like that...or you can just hit ALT+Print Screen with the window focused (not an inactive window), copy it to Paint or an image utility, and post the screen shot of it here. That way and others and I will know which hard drive it is, since you have multiple ones. ____________________

Hiryuu Level: 207 Posts: 3806/14435 EXP: 127636530 For next: 2147624 Since: 07-06-07 Since last post: 11.8 years Last activity: 11.7 years

Posted on 07-08-08 06:41:33 PM (last edited by Fate Testarossa at 07-08-08 04:04 PM) Link | Quote

A MAXTOR failing? Wow. Don't see it often but I guess shit happens. Basing on the model number, I'd say it's an EIDE hard drive, 200GB. I had a 60GB of the same brand and it's still good but I performed a lot of maintenance on it since 2003...but hard drives do die sometimes regardless of that fact. It's probably a fairly old drive of about 4 years, I'd guess. Reallocated Sector Count FAIL means dead disk, pretty much. Use it very sparingly because it won't be long before it dies. EDIT: In looking at that system that you wanna get...you're getting a Dell? Eeeeek. EDIT 2: Hope that's not the one for 1500 dollars. You could build twice that system for that. ____________________

Xkeeper Level: 263 Posts: 6239/25353 EXP: 297174741 For next: 1785712 Since: 07-03-07 Pronouns: they/them/???????? Since last post: 4 days Last activity: 49 min.	Posted on 07-08-08 07:34:01 PM (last edited by Xkeeper at 07-08-08 04:40 PM) Link | Quote
	You could send us the old one for repairs ... But yeah, in most desktops, 65C is about shutoff temperature. Definitely sounds like one of the fans in that thing is going very, very bad. I would recommend against turning it on at all unless you have a very good reason to. ____________________

Hiryuu Level: 207 Posts: 3808/14435 EXP: 127636530 For next: 2147624 Since: 07-06-07 Since last post: 11.8 years Last activity: 11.7 years

Posted on 07-08-08 07:49:17 PM Link | Quote

Well, check 'the story' while you wait, if you haven't already. I just hope you have a way of getting whatever you need off there...but it's likely that your data's already going down the tubes with sector reallocation overkill and bad block readings. On a hard drive, anymore, you'll have a lot of 'extra sectors' that are used to move stuff over in case an area of the drive goes bad. If that 'reallocation' is high, then that FAIL will eventually come up, meaning it's run out of places to safely put data. At least, I THINK that's how it goes with that feature of the drive... ____________________

Hiryuu Level: 207 Posts: 3809/14435 EXP: 127636530 For next: 2147624 Since: 07-06-07 Since last post: 11.8 years Last activity: 11.7 years	Posted on 07-08-08 08:09:45 PM Link | Quote
	Oh right...one more thing...if it's a new Dell and you don't like Vista, I BELIEVE they are including downgrade to XP discs in their comps now. If you don't like Vista and it's giving you too much hell, you can always drop back down to it. ____________________

Hiryuu Level: 207 Posts: 3897/14435 EXP: 127636530 For next: 2147624 Since: 07-06-07 Since last post: 11.8 years Last activity: 11.7 years	Posted on 07-12-08 09:29:07 PM Link | Quote
	There wasn't a downgrade disc with it? ____________________