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Yay for DOSBox! It never occurred to me before to look up an alternative to the typical "MS-DOS Prompt," and I've always been saddened that my older games don't run on Windows. Well, now they do!
I've scrounged up my collection of old Lemmings titles. I stopped buying them once DMA gave up the rights to the property to Psygnosis (and eventually Sony), and it's just as well because all the ones released since then weren't as good. DMA Design, now Rockstar North, is known for various classics such as Grand Theft Auto, Body Harvest, and one of my personal favorites, Uniracers.
DOSBox has a handy recording mechanism, so I used it:
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This particular video comes from The Lemmings Chronicles; Classic stage 25. With its assortment of careful planning mixed with just enough of each tool to get you through, I really feel that this stage in particular is a good example of what Lemmings is all about. And hey, for once YouTube didn't screw over the video quality! Gotta love clips with little movement.
For someone like me, Lemmings represents a time where video games were built more for enjoying simply playing the game instead of admiring the audio and graphics. The twists they pulled on old-fashioned music really made the soundtrack memorable, and every time the musics come to mind, I'm reminded of the era where jagged pixels were A-OK.
Well, no reason to dwell in the past. DOSBox lets Lemmings live! Anyone have any stories or comments about Lemmings they'd like to share?
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As an honorable mention, I should probably say something about Lemmings 2: The Tribes. It is by far the most colorful game in the series, and really deserves more attention than it got. A tasty bit of trivia is that many of the musics were completely replaced in the SNES port in favor of more driving tunes that make it more bearable to listen to for longer sessions. |
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Wafflcakes go here.
----------------------------I only played the first one in the SNES... but it was cool. I got stuck at some level in taxing though. It was one upside down. I think it was becouse the time would run out or something...
I wanted to play the AWESOME level...
I was thinking in playing the tribes after it too. Some of the abilities were cool to use.
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I always wondered how Sunsoft was able to recreate Lemmings so faithfully on the SNES. The levels are spot-on, and the game can handle 99 Lemmings, rendered directly to layer 3 (not sprites!  ), with minimal slowdown. Pretty amazing for a tile-based system with a maximum speed of 3.58MHz...
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Originally posted by Neko54123
I always wondered how Sunsoft was able to recreate Lemmings so faithfully on the SNES. The levels are spot-on, and the game can handle 99 Lemmings, rendered directly to layer 3 (not sprites! ), with minimal slowdown. Pretty amazing for a tile-based system with a maximum speed of 3.58MHz...
You're a smart guy; take it apart and find out yourself. 
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See, I preferred this.
Lemmings is a great game on the go because each level is only a few minutes. |
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| Posted on 04-21-08 04:28:05 PM (last edited by GuyPerfect at 04-21-08 01:48 PM) |
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Incidentally, I started hacking the Lemmings Chronicles level format yesterday. Older games are easy to crack because they put everything in its own uncompressed, conveniently-labeled file. In just three hours, I had enough information to make a level editor.
That DS port of Lemmings is inspiring. Me gonna look into a flash card and do my own Lemmings Chronicles port eventually. Complete with send-it-to-your-friends level creator!
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I played the SNES version to death back in the day and it was one of those rare games my dad and a friend of his used to actually play with me back then. I don't think we ever beat it completely, but did get to probably the final chapter or whatever that only had a few levels, but they were just insane.
I loved multiplayer too. Man, that game was truly amazing and unique.
Could never get into Lemmings 2: The Tribes though ... it just felt a little weird after playing the SNES one for so long. ____________________ Xeogaming | Forums | Videogames
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I didn't play Lemmings much at all, but I will say my favorite thing to do was to push the nuke button 
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| Posted on 04-22-08 11:11:03 PM (last edited by GuyPerfect at 04-22-08 09:09 PM) |
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Progress on the level hacking business is coming along nicely. Just a few more details to work out with the actual level data before I can make an editor.
Here's my progress:
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And here's what it looks like in-game:
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Foreground go!
That was easier than I expected. While hacking, there were certain object types that kept throwing errors and I didn't know why. Maybe those three bytes I didn't know what they did had something to do with it? Sure enough.
Those mysterious objects were actually used to build blocks that were non-rectangular in shape. Now I've got the foreground all done.
I've also got Classic level 28 handy for you!
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| | Well, the graphics are nice, but I like my Lemmings with a bit of detail
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| Posted on 04-24-08 11:01:22 PM (last edited by Craig341 at 04-24-08 08:03 PM) |
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I love lemmings.
Any way at all to get Lemmings DS to run on an emulator?
I loved all the versions, but I sucked at Lemmings 3. Too many *clickrightnowohcrapyoudidn'tnowyoudie* moments for me. |
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Originally posted by Shadic
Am I the only person who thinks that the original Lemmings STILL Has nice graphics?
I love the original graphics, especially in the "special" levels (i.e. the forest, blood/snakes/skeletons, probably another I can't recall). IIRC, those levels consist of one giant pre-rendered object, since they'd be kinda hard to recreate otherwise.
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Yeah, the levels like 'Beast of a level' and the like consisted of a bitmap of some description if I recall.
And to be honest I think it doesn't need a graphics update for the DS...as is it's very easy to see what's going on both contrast wise and the fact you've got a full view area, I think a lot of graphics updates would spoil that really. |
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| Posted on 04-25-08 04:46:30 AM (last edited by GuyPerfect at 04-25-08 01:53 AM) |
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The unique stage graphics are actually all tributes to other games released by Psynosis.
Fun 22 - A Beast of a Level
Reference to Shadow of the Beast
Tricky 14 - MENACING!!
Reference to Menace, which is actually a fairly upbeat game.
Taxing 15 - What an AWESOME level
Reference to Awesome
Mayhem 22 - A BeastII of a Level
Reference to Shadow of the Beast II
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Three of those links lead to the same page.
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