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Posted on 04-16-08 07:49:10 PM Link | Quote
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Originally posted by Drag
I think it's something like "Oh hey, such and such got a new layout... hmm... come to think of it, I kinda want to make a new layout too, I mean I've had this one for a while and blah blah burp my posts look too plain without any type of layout.

It's more like that for me. It'd be possible for me to make a better one than this, but I don't have the time yet.

Actually, I just thought of the possible lag made by the animation, so...

Here: Your layout sucks and is hard on the eyes.

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Posted on 04-16-08 08:31:29 PM (last edited by Delpolo at 04-16-08 05:55 PM) Link | Quote

Well then, any way to improve it? I'm thinking about putting a border for the textbox...

EDIT= How about this layout? If not this, I might just not have a layout at all.

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Posted on 04-16-08 09:18:41 PM Link | Quote

Shiny new layout!
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Originally posted by Delpolo
Well then, any way to improve it? I'm thinking about putting a border for the textbox...
Getting a solid (or slightly transparent) textbox will help your case tremendously.

Also: A note about close and repeating backgrounds: dont use them.

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Posted on 04-16-08 10:55:31 PM (last edited by Delpolo at 04-16-08 07:55 PM) Link | Quote
When you say close, do you mean so small that you know where it repeats?
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Posted on 04-16-08 11:01:09 PM Link | Quote

Shiny new layout!
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Originally posted by Delpolo
When you say close, do you mean so small that you know where it repeats?
By close I mean things that tile in under 64x64 blocks.

(My background tiles, but you'd never be able to tell )

Your old one not only repeated in such a small space, it was a little hard on the eyes. With a good repeating background, you shouldnt be able to tell where things are "tiled"

Look at SMAS SMB underground backgrounds for example.

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Posted on 04-16-08 11:26:38 PM Link | Quote
Yeah, I understand, but your example isn't exactly the best one since the game background scrolls more slowly, but I digress.

I'm working on another background right now (is 300x240 -- plus a repeating 300x150 right over it -- so I'm hoping it's big enough).
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Posted on 04-16-08 11:35:41 PM Link | Quote

Originally posted by Delpolo
Yeah, I understand, but your example isn't exactly the best one since the game background scrolls more slowly, but I digress.

I'm working on another background right now (is 300x240 -- plus a repeating 300x150 right over it -- so I'm hoping it's big enough).

Well, also make sure the file isn't too big- file size is the key here though, and most game graphics that aren't 3d shouldn't go over if it's in the right format.

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Posted on 04-16-08 11:45:18 PM Link | Quote
I know that I should try to make the lowest size possible (albeit with the highest quality at the same time), but which format should I use? I have to use .gif for animations (only two in my soon-to-be layout, most likely), so I guess I should go with .gif, but I'm not so good with formats.
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Posted on 04-16-08 11:46:32 PM Link | Quote

Originally posted by Delpolo
I know that I should try to make the lowest size possible (albeit with the highest quality at the same time), but which format should I use? I have to use .gif for animations (only two in my soon-to-be layout, most likely), so I guess I should go with .gif, but I'm not so good with formats.

The big issue with .GIF is that certain programs save GIF files poorly, and color information is limited. Another option would be the .PNG format. Most of the images in my layout are PNG, though Popful Mail herself is a GIF for transparency purposes.

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Posted on 04-16-08 11:50:01 PM Link | Quote
Thanks for the quick replies, but should I just make a new topic and continue the discussion there? I feel like I took over Drag's topic...
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Posted on 04-17-08 12:09:04 AM Link | Quote

Shiny new layout!
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Originally posted by Delpolo
Thanks for the quick replies, but should I just make a new topic and continue the discussion there? I feel like I took over Drag's topic...
Make a new layout first and then we can help you a bit more...

*Kattwah goes back to considering his "layout compilation" idea.

That's at least 8 different layouts <.<

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Posted on 04-17-08 12:25:40 AM (last edited by Xkeeper at 04-16-08 09:25 PM) Link | Quote
Making the color scheme less eye-gougingly bright will help.

Just make the background much darker. You won't even have to put in a shaded textbox or anything.

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Posted on 04-17-08 01:37:34 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Imajin
Originally posted by Delpolo
I know that I should try to make the lowest size possible (albeit with the highest quality at the same time), but which format should I use? I have to use .gif for animations (only two in my soon-to-be layout, most likely), so I guess I should go with .gif, but I'm not so good with formats.

The big issue with .GIF is that certain programs save GIF files poorly, and color information is limited. Another option would be the .PNG format. Most of the images in my layout are PNG, though Popful Mail herself is a GIF for transparency purposes.
The only remaining reason for using GIF is animation. PNG does everything else with as many colors and levels of opacity you need, and will almost always* be smaller than GIF.

*Please note that this statement is based on optimized PNGs, and not all programs are capable of properly optimizing PNGs. Like MSPaint. Transparent GIFs smaller than 100 by 100 pixels may not compress smaller as PNG.

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