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What is your opinion on Windows 10 so far?
Exactly what it says. What is your opinion about Windows 10 so far? Do you have it installed? Would you recommend it? Do you think it is better or worse than older Windows versions?
I installed it and it's good.
 
29.9%, 20 votes
I installed it but it isn't worth it.
 
11.9%, 8 votes
I didn't install it, but I would like to someday.
 
3.0%, 2 votes
I don't want to install it.
 
31.3%, 21 votes
I'm not sure I like it or not.
 
10.4%, 7 votes
I don't use Windows.
 
13.4%, 9 votes
Multi-voting is disabled. 67 users have voted.

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Posted on 06-25-21 12:17:13 PM Link | Quote
The TPM requirement is the one that's causing the mass kerfuffle online right now. That and the processors are 8th gen Intel/2nd gen Ryzen for the cutoff (so roughly 2018).

Makes me wonder why the TPM is needed. Are we going to be in a position where drive encryption is the norm? I'd rather not have to ask people what their 48 digit BitLocker key is that they have no clue about when their mobo pops and they want 10,000 pics of their grandkids back that they have no backup of...

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Posted on 06-25-21 04:28:39 PM Link | Quote
kazinsal@araxes> show file jul:/posts/kazinsal/630

Apparently the TPM 2.0 thing might be a dev testing requirement and they just shipped their dev requirements as their prod requirements because their project managers are freaking out right now and that it's likely to be dropped back to TPM 1.2 or firmware TPM emulation as a minimum for the actual released.

Microsoft may be a megacorporation but they're not stupid.

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Posted on 06-25-21 04:31:34 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Kazinsal
Microsoft may be a megacorporation but they're not stupid.


They've had their moments. The forced W7 -> W10 debacle as well as W8's debut are two things that instantly come to mind.

Hell they had to change their terms during setup so you didn't sue them.


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Posted on 06-27-21 01:07:35 AM (last edited by Halian at 07-11-21 06:12:49 AM) Link | Quote
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"the user is generally completely non-technical and will throw their hands up in frustration and complain that computers are too hard if they see too many scary computer words on the screen at once"

Make users technical again.

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Posted on 06-30-21 10:16:13 PM Link | Quote
Now that I'm on my computer, I'm having to use Windows 10. So far... I'm not impressed. Everything, from the interface design to the folder navigation and handling of file icons, seems like a step backwards from Windows 7. I'm annoyed that I can't change my computer account's name without also affecting my Microsoft account (which I don't use anyway) and that my main user directory was named "peard" without any choice.

Also, it's weird to me that there is a dedicated special folder for "3D Objects" and that "3D Print" is one of the built-in menu commands. Do they really expect that many people to own 3D printers?

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Posted on 07-01-21 06:41:53 AM Link | Quote
It's possible to register an offline account with Windows 10. They just make it annoying to find inside the installation process. Apparently Windows 11 Pro has similar shenanigans - 11 Home will mandate signing into a Microsoft Account.
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Posted on 07-01-21 11:47:17 AM Link | Quote
when i installed windows 11 pro it didn't require an account if i was disconnected from the internet. can't say for windows 11 home though
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Posted on 07-01-21 02:42:24 PM Link | Quote
Windows 10, and by extension 11, can be just a local account if you unplug from the Internet or if you say 'I don't have Internet' or whatever it is on the bottom left corner when you go to choose your type of Internet during setup...but they did at least give you the option (buried, of course) with the Internet connected on 11 during its setup, I did see that much.

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Posted on 07-09-21 11:09:13 AM (last edited by RanAS at 07-09-21 12:15:18 PM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by Jerry Nixon, Microsoft employee
Right now we’re releasing Windows 10, and because Windows 10 is the last version of Windows, we’re all still working on Windows 10

lol

(edit: thing i forgot to mention: Feels like Windows 11 is just going to be something akin to 8.1 or 7 SP1. So the name change feels more like a marketing decision than really an actual new Windows. Windows 10 itself changed many of its icons to look like 11's in an much earlier update so *shrug*)

I'll probably be an early adopter of Windows 11 if only because I literally never use Windows. I've gone for about a year without even booting up to Windows, even if it's completely and utterly broken it hardly matters for me. Plus it'll be cool to see what Microsoft has changed.

Forcing 64-bit seems natural at this point. 32-bit has already reached its age. Forcing a Microsoft Account for Windows 11 Home...I wonder how that will go? Maybe it'll be like 10, but maybe not. Fun fact! I recently realized that 8.1 is also similar to 10 when it comes to that, it will ask you to set up a Microsoft Account or create one, and you have to play detective to find the option to create a local account.

TPM 2.0 and SecureBoot requirement is going to suck, but from what I've heard there's some tinkering you can do with the installation files to make it ignore those requirements and install anyway. I sure hope so! I have a 6th gen Intel, and my father has a Core 2 Quad, so that's definitely below the CPU "requirements".

My motherboard does support both TPM 2.0 and SecureBoot, but I have those disabled as I honestly don't see the point for me. Furthermore, Linux actually complains if I enable TPM, saying "[Firmware Bug]: ACPI region does not cover the entire command/response buffer". So apparently, my motherboard has a faulty implementation of TPM, and I'm already using the latest version so there's nothing I can do about it! Awesome.

Originally posted by Kazinsal
It's also the core reason that the Year of Linux on the Desktop is a thing that continues to be a current_year+1 concept but that's probably a ramble and a half about user experience for a different thread.

I want Linux to become more common place so that it's seen as a viable alternative rather than "hahah, Linux, lol" but it's also true that most non-tech users are probably better off with Windows. I don't see a problem with that, as long as the user has a genuine option of switching to a different OS that's fine by me. Because at that point it comes down to preference, not system functionality and compatibility.
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Posted on 07-10-21 02:06:01 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by RanAS
I literally never use Windows. I've gone for about a year without even booting up to Windows

god i wish that were me
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Posted on 07-11-21 03:01:24 PM Link | Quote




And here I am going full bore on 11 just because.

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Posted on 07-14-21 11:42:54 PM Link | Quote
i probably mentioned but i went back to windows 10 pretty quickly
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Posted on 07-27-21 10:21:10 PM Link | Quote
windows 11 is so god awful that i, as a right side taskbar user, will probably just move to windows 10 and linux fully at that point. microsoft continues to be inexplicably awful


Originally posted by ひりゅう


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Posted on 07-27-21 10:28:42 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Xkeeper




Wow. Been a while.

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Posted on 07-31-21 10:28:48 AM Link | Quote


MS might wanna learn how to read a room.

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Posted on 08-09-21 11:44:31 PM (last edited by ひりゅう at 08-09-21 11:49:46 PM) Link | Quote


Curious. I made that happen with a mouse on Windows 11. Not sure if DWM is losing its mind but...

Basically, if I rotate the mouse around and around for a few seconds, it'll spin up a core on the process as long as you spin the mouse cursor around on the desktop with no windows open. Granted, it was on one screen of three but what was interesting was if I spun it around in an open window or program, say Discord or TweetDeck for examples, it wouldn't spin the processor up nearly as much.

I'm not quite clear on if that's supposed to happen or not but I don't remember a mouse causing a Ryzen 5 3600 to spark nearly that much electricity trying to keep up. I don't get how mouse polling can generate half a core's power.

EDIT: It's part DWM and MOSTLY Explorer.exe, according to Task Manager.

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Posted on 08-19-21 05:10:25 AM Link | Quote
I guess I should've seen this coming but they made it more difficult to change your default browser in W11. Can't even search for 'default browser' now since they've removed that entirely.

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kazinsal@araxes> show file jul:/posts/kazinsal/668

warning: long and probably nonsensical post about UX and solidarity ahead

I'm of the opinion that that's more of a "tech user annoyance" than an actual problem. Microsoft Edge is just Chromium with a Redmond skin on top of it and considering the nightmare that is actually getting normal people to not fuck up their browsers and computers, having a standards-compliant and relatively sandboxed browser is honestly a good thing.

That being said I also have spent the past six years dealing with the various blends of dipshittery that normal every day computer users have to deal with, and as a result I tend to look at operating system design as a holistic meta-system where you need to give the "power users" the tools they need while also making sure that Jim-Bob Q. Chunderfumble Jr. doesn't turn the PC he needs to use to scan delivery receipts in for 8 hours a day into a nonfunctional bitlockered and adware-packed mess, because while ol' JBQ is getting paid minimum wage to receive packages it's going to cost the big mighty capital three or four times that to go get some non-uniformed dick like myself out there to fix the problem, and it's going to take a few hours, and big mighty capital is going to look at that and wonder who they can fire to make up for it, it's going to be ol JBQ and his friends because big mighty capital hates the littlest of little guys more than anything else.

It may be the weed talking but I guess my point is that making the number one most used operating system on the planet idiotproof while leaving the power user tools available behind the curtain is a genuinely good thing because it makes it more difficult for human error to be used as an excuse for billionaires to ruin the lives of comrades yours and mine alike because the billionaires don't want to settle for having to give up the five hundred grand that would normally be spent on their winter Ferrari.

tl;dr when presented with a complex interface, the average person is likely to accidentally break things in unprecedented ways because the myriad switches have a lot of complex interdependencies (stay tuned for my talk about why programmers are horrible UX designers), and bad people will exploit this to ruin their lives, so condensing the user interface into more simple standard chunks is a good thing

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Posted on 08-19-21 10:04:34 PM Link | Quote
I'm in break-fix for a living. Trust me, with 99% of computer users, you don't want to leave it this way.

With Chrome as popular as it is, I don't need call after call after call after call from people wondering why Chrome can't be their default browser and 'what is Edge, I thought this was Internet Explorer'.

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line 155 column 70 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 156 column 70 - Warning: <table> attribute "width" has invalid value "29.9%"
line 159 column 70 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 159 column 70 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 160 column 70 - Warning: <table> attribute "width" has invalid value "11.9%"
line 163 column 70 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 163 column 70 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 164 column 70 - Warning: <table> attribute "width" has invalid value "3.0%"
line 167 column 70 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 167 column 70 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 168 column 70 - Warning: <table> attribute "width" has invalid value "31.3%"
line 171 column 70 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 171 column 70 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 172 column 70 - Warning: <table> attribute "width" has invalid value "10.4%"
line 175 column 70 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 175 column 70 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 176 column 70 - Warning: <table> attribute "width" has invalid value "13.4%"
line 190 column 15 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 190 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 190 column 58 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 190 column 58 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 190 column 101 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 190 column 101 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 190 column 144 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 190 column 144 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 190 column 187 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 190 column 187 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 190 column 230 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 190 column 230 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 190 column 273 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 190 column 273 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 190 column 316 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 190 column 316 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 190 column 359 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 190 column 359 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 191 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 191 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 191 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 192 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 219 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 219 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 219 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 219 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 220 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 230 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 237 column 1200 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 250 column 15 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 250 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 250 column 58 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 250 column 58 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 250 column 101 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 250 column 101 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 250 column 144 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 250 column 144 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 250 column 187 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 250 column 187 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 250 column 230 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 250 column 230 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 250 column 273 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 250 column 273 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 250 column 316 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 250 column 316 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 250 column 359 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 250 column 359 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 251 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 251 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 251 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 262 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 300 column 860 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 300 column 937 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 322 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 329 column 437 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 334 column 1585 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 345 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 355 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 370 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 370 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 370 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 370 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 381 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 395 column 15 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 395 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 395 column 58 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 395 column 58 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 395 column 101 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 395 column 101 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 395 column 144 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 395 column 144 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 395 column 187 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 395 column 187 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 395 column 230 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 395 column 230 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 395 column 273 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 395 column 273 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 395 column 316 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 395 column 316 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 395 column 359 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 395 column 359 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 422 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 473 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 488 column 15 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 488 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 488 column 58 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 488 column 58 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 488 column 101 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 488 column 101 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 488 column 144 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 488 column 144 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 488 column 187 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 488 column 187 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 488 column 230 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 488 column 230 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 488 column 273 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 488 column 273 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 488 column 316 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 488 column 316 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 488 column 359 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 488 column 359 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 489 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 489 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 489 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 489 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 509 column 325 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 545 column 64 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 545 column 113 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 545 column 163 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 546 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 556 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 566 column 1244 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 568 column 1371 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 568 column 1371 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 577 column 15 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 577 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 577 column 58 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 577 column 58 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 577 column 101 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 577 column 101 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 577 column 144 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 577 column 144 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 577 column 187 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 577 column 187 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 577 column 230 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 577 column 230 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 577 column 273 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 577 column 273 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 577 column 316 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 577 column 316 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 577 column 359 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 577 column 359 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 578 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 578 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 578 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 578 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 579 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 589 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 596 column 303 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 596 column 303 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 607 column 15 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 607 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 607 column 58 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 607 column 58 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 607 column 101 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 607 column 101 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 607 column 144 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 607 column 144 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 607 column 187 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 607 column 187 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 607 column 230 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 607 column 230 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 607 column 273 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 607 column 273 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 607 column 316 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 607 column 316 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 607 column 359 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 607 column 359 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 608 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 608 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 608 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 608 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 609 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 619 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 626 column 227 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 635 column 15 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 635 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 635 column 58 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 635 column 58 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 635 column 101 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 635 column 101 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 635 column 144 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 635 column 144 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 635 column 187 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 635 column 187 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 635 column 230 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 635 column 230 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 635 column 273 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 635 column 273 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 635 column 316 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 635 column 316 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 635 column 359 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 635 column 359 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 636 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 636 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 636 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 636 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 637 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 647 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 654 column 227 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 669 column 15 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 669 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 669 column 58 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 669 column 58 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 669 column 101 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 669 column 101 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 669 column 144 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 669 column 144 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 669 column 187 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 669 column 187 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 669 column 230 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 669 column 230 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 669 column 273 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 669 column 273 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 669 column 316 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 669 column 316 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 669 column 359 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 669 column 359 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 670 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 670 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 670 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 670 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 671 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 681 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 696 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 696 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 696 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 696 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 697 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 707 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 714 column 1514 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 735 column 15 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 735 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 735 column 58 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 735 column 58 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 735 column 101 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 735 column 101 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 735 column 144 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 735 column 144 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 735 column 187 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 735 column 187 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 735 column 230 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 735 column 230 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 735 column 273 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 735 column 273 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 735 column 316 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 735 column 316 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 735 column 359 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 735 column 359 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 736 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 736 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 736 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 736 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 737 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 747 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 765 column 44 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 765 column 142 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 765 column 246 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 774 column 25 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 779 column 267 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 329 column 363 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 759 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 207 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 235 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 267 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 298 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 327 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 333 column 1237 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 360 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 386 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 412 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 438 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 478 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 505 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 535 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 561 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 594 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 624 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 652 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 686 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 712 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 752 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 509 warnings and 0 errors!


The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

About HTML Tidy: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5
Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
Latest HTML specification: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/
Validate your HTML documents: http://validator.w3.org/nu/
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Do you speak a language other than English, or a different variant of
English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/blob/master/README/LOCALIZE.md