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Posted on 01-07-08 03:21:55 AM Link | Quote

Originally posted by Tarale
I'm not saying the word "luck" as some kind of challenge to a deity; rather to point out that not all autism is rainbows and sunshine like some of you would claim.

I disagree. I think even people who have full-blown Autism are content with having it, for the most part. To them it's not a bad thing at all. Neurotypicals just think it is 'cause they're only seeing the affected ones from their own perspective.

And yes, you can consider me sort of a "radical" on the subject of Autism, but for it rather than against it, which is opposite of most Autism-related radicals. Heh.

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I think one can be "content" with having any condition one has known for the entirety of their lives. If you've known nothing else, then you don't miss it.

But I don't think that's a reason to be for autism as such.

You ARE lucky. Really fucking lucky. You can wipe your own arse. You can feed yourself. You will be able to get a job and provide for yourself. You can—as you have demonstrated simply by posting in a recognisable language—communicate with others.

Just because the person with those problems might be "content" that way doesn't mean it's a good thing—those people still need lifelong help just for the most basic of tasks. Very few autistic children grow up to become independent adults. The burden of caring for a severely autistic child or adult can tear apart relationships and families, and limits or completely impairs the child's ability to even do basic things like have friends. Do you honestly believe that all this is a good thing?

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Well, you see, it's easier for him to say that than somebody severely effected, because he can use a computer and everything. Therefore he may never understand the consequences of severe autism, without becoming autistic to that level himself.

Similarly I can say how I think insanity is great to have, when in reality my craziness extends as far as the "Nontraditional thinker" mark and stops there. Actual crazy people most likely wouldn't agree with me, depending upon to what extent they could communicate such feelings to me.

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Posted on 01-07-08 10:32:45 PM Link | Quote
Like I've said a few times before, I have Asperger's too ... I wasn't diagnosed with it until I was 18, but only because we didn't even know about it until then, as I definitely had its symptoms long before ... I mean, how often do you see 4 year old kids fill thousands of pages with this, this or even this (but mostly this)

Originally posted by Schwa
Autism rules! It makes people mysterious, inspires creativity and out-of-the-box thinking in nearby innocents, creates math and computer geniuses
I skipped grade 1 because I already knew all the basic stuff ... when I was 4, I could already read/write, do basic math (including multiply/divide) and count to at least millions, yet I could barely talk like a 2 year old ... I was always generally known as a math genius at school, although being 1-2 years younger than everyone didn't help my lack of social skills

Originally posted by Schwa
Furthermore, we have gifts and we get funding from the government because of it, because they can't seem to realize the beneficial part of Autism. Free money? I'll take it!
Yep, I had my good share of that at university I got about $2000 funds per year (or semester? forgot), was given a computer for free for the 3 years I was there, then got a $2000 discount for another (current one), and even a few other services ... although the actual classes went normally


But the negative side of it (social deficiency) does hurt ... I still managed to get a few friends at school (and got along well with most others), but it was always them who came to me first, as I was usually sitting alone in a corner doing unusual things

Even now, I still live with my parents, I don't drive, I've never had a girlfriend (won't be anytime soon either), I never go out by myself, I don't even take care of the usual home tasks, I'm still often too shy to talk at all, and I might be stuck that way for a long time ...

Still good I at least got a job, with most of my (yet average) income sitting in bank forever due to low expenses (for the reasons listed above) ... and as pointed out, it could be much worse

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Social deficiency / awkwardness certainly does suck. I don't have Asperger's, but I have problems with it myself. Mine's related to bullying though in early childhood, I've always felt I was "different" from the other kids, like I was weird, or inferior. Psychologist says it will take me a while to deal with this all, it's been recognised as one of the "core beliefs" about myself.

While mine's a learned behaviour (or lack of behaviours I should have learned), I can certainly empathise with the social awkwardness. Regardless of the reasons, it tends to suck to have trouble socialising with others.

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Interesting. I had a bullying problem, but my reaction was two;

First, my normal psyche, which was devoid of anything except perhaps a little ADD, was annihilated. Society had always taught me I'd be protected by the yard monitor/policeman/superman. Nobody stepped in to protect me when bullies happened. So it just blew apart.

Secondarily, I realized (while in an inert state of being lost as to who I was and what to do) that bullies would only attack me as long as I was a target. Therefore I built up my still-standing emotional defenses (a little too well--I can be known for being cold, even to people I know well and am friends with) and then switched from cowering or hiding or talking at bullies who hit me to hitting them back mercilessly. They had driven me so angry, too, that I would lose control of my fists/mind and just attack them relentlessly until the anger went away.

Eventually all the bullies stopped attacking me, as my psychotic response either scared the crud out of them or they wound up getting hit. (I also remember being hit and not feeling any pain--yeah, it was nuts).

The results of this were large; for the longest time I have been piecing together things like emotions and feelings, and it has been a double-edged sword. Firstly, my mind is more flexible--I can unhinge it at will and then turn it normal again instantly. I can add and erase what I choose from it, including feelings. Indeed, I have spent a lot of time adding and editing it--for example, my current social ability is a result of me consciously adding to it and practicing anywhere I could.

I'm afraid I've digressed a bit much, but in conclusion some things can effect your mind almost as much, if not more than genetic disorders. Of course, it has to be during formative years... for example, now my mind is set much moreso. Maybe too much... some people have commented on how I stick to my position, even if the ship it was founded on has sunk and is now underwater.

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Posted on 01-07-08 11:49:42 PM (last edited by Tarale at 01-07-08 08:50 PM) Link | Quote
One of the things pointed out by my psychologist is that a person's "core beliefs" about themselves are usually formed in childhood, although rarely as late as adolescence. Once the core beliefs are formed, it can be very difficult to challenge them, and if they are unhealthy they can lead to problems such as excessive anger, depression, etc.

Social awkwardness really sucks though either way. It's hard to challenge whatever the reason is behind it. Although I do recognise that my situation is different to that experienced by those with Asperger's—I understand it's much harder to challenge the issue then. For some people it's simply not possible to overcome, only to improve with.

But this isn't really on the topic of Autism or Asperger's now. Social problems can occur for any number of reasons and perhaps should go in another thread.

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Yeah, I am socially awkward. :/
I think it started when I went on a student ambassador trip to Europe and got bullied by some of the kids on the trip. As a result I didn't make any friends during to 20-day trip - and unknowingly set my mind on not wanting friends. When I returned to school after the trip I didn't have much trouble; I already had my friends from before. Now that out of my old school and my first year of high school, I'm running into trouble; I barely have any friends, the one I do I think only befriended me because they felt sorry for me. I generally don't talk at all unless someone talks to me first. There are only 3 students from my previous school that attend here, and I wasn't very good friends with them anyway. And to top it off, the school I attend is predominantly black, and while I have no problem with this at all, I have a lot of trouble fitting in. I also sometimes suspect that I am bipolar, but without much knowledge of the disorder I'm not sure. I'm often depressed or angry, sometimes I randomly switch between them, but most of the time it's depressed. I know that my grandfather was also bipolar, but I never met him, he died before I was born.

Well yeah.

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Posted on 01-08-08 04:19:45 AM Link | Quote

Social awkwardness?

One time I asked the girl in my high-school newspaper class why she had a mustache. In front of everyone. I never got why she cupped her mouth and began screaming into her hands, her face red.

Several months later I had to ask another girl, in front of her friends, whether she was a boy or a girl. I couldn't tell, 'cause her hair was slicked back like a guy and she was flat-chested, two things which I also ended up telling her. And I never got why she burst out laughing and her face turned red. I think she even cried by the end of it.

These things still puzzle me. Would I do it again? Probably, knowing me.

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That's a great way to get punched in the face.


Oh, and I tend to mentally rename it to "assburgers" syndrome. They're pronounced close enough.

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Jul - Post #2098 - 01-08-08 03:30:57am
Originally posted by Boing
I also sometimes suspect that I am bipolar, but without much knowledge of the disorder I'm not sure.
Research it a bit then. Just read up quick on Wikipedia or some such.

Originally posted by Xkeeper
Oh, and I tend to mentally rename it to "assburgers" syndrome. They're pronounced close enough.
I do this too, actually.

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Originally posted by HyperHacker
Originally posted by Boing
I also sometimes suspect that I am bipolar, but without much knowledge of the disorder I'm not sure.
Research it a bit then. Just read up quick on Wikipedia or some such.


Research it, but don't self-diagnose. You will need to see a psychiatrist for a diagnosis of Bipolar Disorder, Cyclothymia and other related conditions.

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Posted on 01-08-08 10:22:10 AM Link | Quote

Originally posted by Xkeeper
That's a great way to get punched in the face.

Ja boss.

Originally posted by Xkeeper
Oh, and I tend to mentally rename it to "assburgers" syndrome. They're pronounced close enough.

Originally posted by HyperHacker
I do this too, actually.

Eww, you guys! XD

Bizarro world. I've never done that before. Still don't think I ever will.

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