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Posted on 08-14-20 10:18:50 PM Link | Quote
When I introduced Googie Toons back in 2007 on MySpace, people were taking notice. Artists were networking, I was getting a fan base on the social media site, shit even celebrities were starting to take notice! I was going viral on the site, and Googie Toons was getting really popular.

My cartoons were getting so popular that a Hollywood producer got in contact with me wanting to produce 'em! And I'll tell you what, I was all for it. We were talking about how he has connections with other Hollywood big shots, and I was being talked about in their circle, he was giving me updates on what was being said.

Then the Hollywood producer made arrangements for me to fly to Los Angeles to negotiate, I thought for sure I had it in the bag, I was really hyped about getting my cartoons out there. After all I had a fucked up life growing up in Corona Queens, NY.

Then I got contacted by the Hollywood producer, saying that he wasn't going to be able to take me under his wing because the writers went on strike, he also told me that trying to help me was going to be a risk he wasn't going to make. I was so heart broken that I feel into a deeper depression, I couldn't eat for days and couldn't sleep for weeks.

So I migrated to Facebook when News Corp bought My Space, and I've been trying to go viral on there, it sucks when I have to beg people on Facebook to support my page by liking it. When I was homeless I asked social media to help me go viral, to get me and my mom and brother out of homelessness, no one did shit.

For the past few years I tried to keep the spark going even while being homeless, I never been able to take off on Facebook. I've been on Twitter since 2009 and I can't get passed 760 followers, I trying pitching my cartoons on Twitter but those Hollywood big shots shut me down.

Instagram ain't no better, I can't get not even to 300 followers.

I even went to MeWe and Vero, no such luck in those places. I can only go as far as a Google search, and that's it.

You guys been on the internet longer than me, I got my first computer in 1999. How the hell can I go viral? What is it that I'm doing wrong? You have people that become overnight sensations and I've been at this since 2007 and no one bats an eye. A good friend told me that inking and coloring digitally will help, but I can't grasp the concept.

I thought maybe I can stream on Twitch though my PC and Xbox One, to try to go viral, we'll see if that even goes anywhere...

And the art community keeps shutting me down in various art groups on social media when I show my art for whatever reason.
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Posted on 08-14-20 10:32:28 PM Link | Quote
Most people and most things don't go viral, which is the harsh reality. There really isn't any magic bullet to going viral either, it's mostly luck.

:c

I'm sorry I can't be of more help.

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Posted on 08-15-20 09:31:51 PM Link | Quote
Eh I figured as much, I'm just frustrated that my cartoons can't seem to go viral. Thanks for listening.
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Posted on 08-15-20 11:43:47 PM Link | Quote
I wish I knew, but I've never had much luck with getting attention for my art. Even if something has wide appeal, it seems like it's down to whether or not popular people happen to share it. Having friends spread the word probably helps, though. You never know, maybe one of your friends has a friend who is a friend with a popular animator or something.

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Posted on 08-17-20 11:50:59 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Peardian
I wish I knew, but I've never had much luck with getting attention for my art. Even if something has wide appeal, it seems like it's down to whether or not popular people happen to share it. Having friends spread the word probably helps, though. You never know, maybe one of your friends has a friend who is a friend with a popular animator or something.


I have about 1,162 likes on Facebook, most of those friends are on my friends list, and I had to beg them to like my page. And then the people on Twitter follow me, claiming they like my cartoons style, then unfollow me after I follow them. Twitter is a running gag imo.
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Posted on 08-18-20 05:08:22 PM Link | Quote
the internet is pretty much shitocracy, as I call it. whether you get famous depends on what you produce, how much you cater to the lowest common denominator, luck and/or already-famous people giving you visibility, these things.

it's a bit like how the Cemu developers make over $4000/mo with a closed-source emulator that might as well just be built from leaked SDK/etc. as a comparison, melonDS doesn't even make $200/mo.

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Posted on 08-18-20 11:31:24 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Arisotura
whether you get famous depends on what you produce, how much you cater to the lowest common denominator, luck and/or already-famous people giving you visibility, these things.


A silly short video in which I put some copyrighted cat characters doing a short dance loop to a copyrighted song has totally eclipsed the popularity of the rest of my entire life's worth of 2D/3D art combined.

And despite the video's popularity, hardly anyone pays attention to anything else I make unless it's more cats. I'm not trying to gain popularity or anything, but it's disheartening to know that most people don't care about anything I put real effort into.



Maybe you can try the Twitch streaming idea if you haven't already, Googie. Couldn't hurt to try, right?

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Posted on 08-20-20 08:50:26 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Peardian
Maybe you can try the Twitch streaming idea if you haven't already, Googie. Couldn't hurt to try, right?


Actually I made a Twitch TV channel when I used to love in NJ, and I was getting noticed before I became homeless. I can give it another try if anything, I have 58 followers now. Here's my Twitch channel. I'm gonna get in contact with Verizon to get more speed on my internet, and look for someone on Fiver to make an overlay for me. I probably have a shot that way.
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Posted on 08-25-20 03:53:25 AM Link | Quote
Man that sucks, I remember you from back in the day and I always just assumed you had made it. Where's your facebook? I think I'm subscribed to you on YouTube already, but it doesn't hurt to link it.

I guess the only thing you can do is just keep putting work out there. I've seen from a lot of animators that it's always one chance encounter that launched their career. All I can really say is keep trying man. And hey, at least you have the courage to do it. I always felt like I wanted a career in animation but I gave up decades ago with nothing to show for it. At least you've made cartoons that made people happy.

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Posted on 10-15-20 05:01:13 PM Link | Quote
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I regret that I can't help you go viral, but I do love Googie Toons.

…Out of morbid curiosity, did you ever try calling the producer back after a while?

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Posted on 11-10-20 03:38:33 PM Link | Quote
nym: here's my link to all my social media pages.

Halian: thanks man, yeah I did email that producer but he never replied back, my best guess is he's not interested in my brand.
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Posted on 11-12-20 02:14:23 PM Link | Quote
I've followed you on everything I have accounts for, for what it's worth.

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Have you considered putting your art on Newgrounds? I just realized that it might be a good fit for your art style.

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Gosh is Newgrounds still around? I miss that place.

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I'm pretty sure it's made a bit of a resurgence, even

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Yeah, I've seen more and more people post their art on Newgrounds, especially during that whole Tumblr anti-NSFW thing.

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Newgrounds has sort of re-modernized itself, it's kinda cool actually! That website has been around for so long.

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Originally posted by Peardian
Have you considered putting your art on Newgrounds? I just realized that it might be a good fit for your art style.


I'll look into it tomorrow after work, thanks for the tip.
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line 619 column 14 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 619 column 57 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 692 column 351 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 702 column 244 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
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line 149 column 50 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 160 column 120 - Warning: trimming empty <i>
line 237 column 120 - Warning: trimming empty <i>
line 282 column 363 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
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line 390 column 120 - Warning: trimming empty <i>
line 478 column 120 - Warning: trimming empty <i>
line 553 column 363 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 671 column 120 - Warning: trimming empty <i>
line 696 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 699 column 50 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 177 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 223 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 254 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 280 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 284 column 964 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 311 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 340 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 368 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 380 column 1559 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 407 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 436 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
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line 551 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 555 column 726 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
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line 610 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 636 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 662 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 688 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 351 warnings and 0 errors!


The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

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Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
Latest HTML specification: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/
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English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/blob/master/README/LOCALIZE.md