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Posted on 01-05-08 01:14:18 AM Link | Quote

Eh, every once in a while I go to some random forum and start a thread like this. It's part of my duty as an Aspie.

Autism rules! It makes people mysterious, inspires creativity and out-of-the-box thinking in nearby innocents, creates math and computer geniuses, and it is the most spiritual of all the documented "disabilities" (not that Autism is a disability-- it's more of an "impairment", but what it REALLY is is a culture). Furthermore, we have gifts and we get funding from the government because of it, because they can't seem to realize the beneficial part of Autism. Free money? I'll take it!

Put short, if I had the choice to give up my Autism so I could resist loud noise and soft touch, I would tell whoever's giving me the choice to go to Hell. Sure, it sucks having the social skills of a badger and being ultra-sensitive to noise and touch, but dude! People respect that I stand out the way I do... People RESPECT my creativity, and my black-and-white mentality has gotten me out of many a pickle. Furthermore, this is WHO I AM, and how much sense does it make to wish you could give up a part of yourself, even the bad stuff? I've had a troubled past (hehe, typical Aspie past), sure, but it's taught me a few things, which I can pass on to others (like my kids someday), so it's not really bad at all if it can end up helping someone.

I said it already, and I'm saying it again. Autism RULES. Debate it all you want, but I ain't swaying on this for the world!

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Posted on 01-05-08 01:28:24 AM Link | Quote
I have it too. I just don't like the name my version has been given.

It defenitely makes people unique. It makes the weak smart, the strong smart, Microsoft, Google, and the Mayflower Compact. Hell, it makes a lot of damn things.
But unfortunately, I don't have much creativity, nor sociality. It seems that mine in specific has a decrease in more areas than legal with very few pros, but every so often I find something that works for other people (Sauerbraten = underground lake). Plus, the things I do, the things I like, the work I do, it's mostly because of my autism. And I like it. (But that's probably because of the autism too, but, ah well.)

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Posted on 01-05-08 02:37:15 AM (last edited by HyperHacker at 01-04-08 11:48 PM) Link | Quote
Jul - Post #2051 - 01-04-08 09:37:15pm
What the fuck? My post got wiped out. >:

Let's see how much of that I can bother to re-type.
Originally posted by Schwa
Aspie.
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Autism rules! It makes people mysterious, inspires creativity and out-of-the-box thinking in nearby innocents, creates math and computer geniuses,



and it is the most spiritual of all the documented "disabilities" (not that Autism is a disability-- it's more of an "impairment", but what it REALLY is is a culture).
Disability? Ha! People with this are some of the smartest I know.


Furthermore, we have gifts and we get funding from the government because of it, because they can't seem to realize the beneficial part of Autism. Free money? I'll take it!
Wait, what? Where's my free money?


Sure, it sucks having the social skills of a badger and being ultra-sensitive to noise and touch
The heightened senses can be very nice if you learn to use them right. I was always being woke up by 3AM phone calls, until I noticed I could just turn the ringer off and still hear phones ringing in the other room. I never miss a call nor do I get woke up. Awesome.
The social skills are a pain but they can be developed like anyone else's can, it just takes more effort. Then the other perks kick in to help out. The creativity and out-of-the-box thinking you mentioned really help one's sense of humour. The added logic skills make things like coding and hacking pretty easy for the most part, which means you can impress people with your programs and hacks and show them how easy they are for you to make things they wouldn't have thought were possible. Surprising as it may be, girls love it when I show them my DS playing animé, finding wifi hotspots, etc. And romantic ROM hacks as Christmas gifts = win. (Assuming the person you give them to can figure out how to run them and has a decent enough machine... ) "I love you" floating in the air in Mario Raceway. It's unique, it was fun to make, and it was the "best Christmas gift ever". Fuckin' right.


but dude! People respect that I stand out the way I do... People RESPECT my creativity, and my black-and-white mentality has gotten me out of many a pickle.
, again.

And this time I'm copying my post before hitting Submit. >:

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Posted on 01-05-08 05:26:05 AM Link | Quote
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I don't know why I put this here.
Having a different mental strangeness I cannot know the use/unuse of this disorder, but it seems an ever-increasing number of people I know have it, and my main comment is this:

The attempt to medicate away personality differences is ridiculous; hence Aspergers and such (as long as it isn't, say, crippling or something) is not exactly something to instantly try to 'cure' as it is perfectly easy (in mild cases) to simply decode how to communicate with them. For someone like me this is no problem, and I have a tendency to be able to talk to people with Aspergers that other people just think are nuts.

Myself I was affected by some form of AD(H)D and my resultant mental battle against it has managed to invert it, gaining me Hyperfocus. Whilst it is different from the topic this is about (In my case, the problem is my brain moving at about a million miles per second and everything else not so much) I can see the reason for such a topic. With Hyperfocus many things are possible; it is my belief many great human things were created by it, and had we a magic wand to remove the various fringe mental 'disorders' we would probably also destroy the people that made it possible to diagnose many disorders in the first place! (Consider how tedious it is to isolate various mental issues from one another. Consider the possible need for someone who either already has one or something like it in order to have the patience and concentration to understand the others.)

Although, I must bring up a caveat--for those with severe autism, I doubt it rules, considering it sort of cripples one's ability to be social if you have it really bad. Similarly, people with uncontrolled ADD are reckless and destructive, and hard to control. (I myself would be had I not managed to focus it so tightly)

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Posted on 01-05-08 05:58:06 AM Link | Quote
I have Aspergers. I'm really smart, but, I also have ADHD to some extent. And you know... Introvertedness (I have a really hard time talking to most people, unless it so happens that we share major interests [like video games, etc.] ) + hyperactivity, however mild or severe + quirky habits = not so appealing to some people, and not only the morons who think "acting out a little = LOLRETARDEDZ".

It's nice being able to breeze through homework, but it's not too nice always being stuck to that same circle of people, and it's rather hard to break away...



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Posted on 01-05-08 06:12:00 AM Link | Quote
I was diagnosed with Autism at an early age (according to my mother, anyway.) It's presumably Asperger's.

*hydraphatphelinez won't bother repeating what everyone else has said up until this point.

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Posted on 01-05-08 06:14:34 AM Link | Quote
As much as you want to say autism rules, I have to say it sucks. Have you ever seen the extreme cases of it? You're lucky you're even able to function.

I know kids who refuse to: talk, socially interact with everyone including their own parents. They refuse to move from their "spots," and when they do move they
perform rituals over and over. They will sometimes talk, but only to themselves. I've even met some who are on the verge of entering their own "inner-world."

As much as you want to say it rules... it's not good. It's an ailment that one should continue to fight off once they realize it's bad. If there are some good qualities that come with the ailment, one should at least retain these while si,ultainiously purging the bad.

And as for the purpose of this thread, what's the point? Is it to justify that you have autism, or is it just to make it aware that some can function with it? I'm sorry if this sounds duragatory, but I'm having trouble grasping this...

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Posted on 01-05-08 12:43:53 PM (last edited by Xkeeper at 01-05-08 09:45 AM) Link | Quote
This is another one of those things where I'd say that, yes, severe cases of it can be very life-upsetting in general, but small amounts of this aren't exactly harmful.

On that subject, I think the topic of this title title of this topic is a bit unfair to those with more moderate/extreme cases.


I should also mention I haven't ever been psycoanalyzed (i.e. tested for any sort of dysfunction, disease, perk, or any other stupid trait), so I can contribute nothing.

Aside from the fact that I'm a psychopath, but we should all know that.

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Posted on 01-05-08 01:14:08 PM Link | Quote

(to HyperHacker) Ouch, I hate it when my post gets wiped. What's wrong with the word Aspie? R4wr!

(to Supakitsune) Haha, I love the word "retard", even though I don't say it very often at all. Why do I love this word? Simple. Black people get the N-word, right? The R-word is OUR word. Only Aspies can call each-other retards and get away with it. That's my take on it, anyway. I say the next time someone calls you retard, you should call him/her some derogatory racial slang that applies to that person, and justify it by saying he/she did the same thing to you first. ...Fufufu, how malicius!

(to Tanks) Ha, typical NT response. Well, it actually wouldn't be a lie to say I've been in that lower-functioning state before, where I didn't talk, and sometimes still am. It depends on my level of stress, really... The "locked inside your mind"ness, as I call it, is actually possibly the best thing any Autistic person has. See, Autistic people are what I like to call "un-filtered". They process EVERYTHING around them without any means of tuning any of it out. Because of that, their minds are hardwired to retreat into their own reality to protect themselves from such a scary world. And apparently some Autistics just have this so bad that they retreat farther away than anyone else can reach. Yeah, it's unfortunate, but at the same time it's kinda admirable to be able to do that.

There's another take on this, too. Some say the "lockedness" is spiritual in nature, as in, say, the Autistic's mind or soul or whatever is existing in a seperate realm than his/her body. So when they DO talk, whatever they're saying is very puzzling, and they're able to solve nearly impossible puzzles effortlessly because they were born spiritually "awakened", which is too powerful for mortals to handle so they end up the way they are.

My take? It's a little of both.

(to Xkeeper) Yes, but you're OUR psychopath and we all love you.

And if you think the thread title could use an improvement, you have admin powers for a reason... I won't mind if you give it a different name, as long as it's not a stupid one.

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Posted on 01-05-08 01:15:09 PM Link | Quote
*Xkeeper highlights the last half of the title and pushes the nuke button

Simple enough.

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Posted on 01-05-08 03:32:34 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Schwa
(to Supakitsune) Haha, I love the word "retard", even though I don't say it very often at all. Why do I love this word? Simple. Black people get the N-word, right? The R-word is OUR word. Only Aspies can call each-other retards and get away with it. That's my take on it, anyway. I say the next time someone calls you retard, you should call him/her some derogatory racial slang that applies to that person, and justify it by saying he/she did the same thing to you first. ...Fufufu, how malicious!
... Except that using racial/group derogatory terms is flat out dumb.

...ffffffffffffffffffff.
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Posted on 01-05-08 06:19:08 PM Link | Quote
I have a slew of personality "disorders," but not autism, specifically.

Basically I know people well just from talking with them in person for a few minutes. The shapes of their desires, motivations, and fears reveal themselves to me unusually easily. As a result I care about everyone I meet. I share in their emotions, exult in their triumphs, and am crushed by their defeats.

That's how it feels to me. If you ask the doctors, I'm stark raving mad.
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Posted on 01-05-08 11:58:05 PM Link | Quote

Originally posted by Miasmir
I share in their emotions, exult in their triumphs, and am crushed by their defeats.

That's how it feels to me. If you ask the doctors, I'm stark raving mad.

I like this. Furthermore, I've felt a similar way before.

Machines and dogs. I relate to machines and dogs more than I relate to humans. I once wrote a story about how my computer took a human form and fell in love with me. That story didn't have any dogs in it though.

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Posted on 01-06-08 12:09:40 AM Link | Quote
I doubt very much that "Autism" in general "rules". Considering that autism can refer to so many things, most of which are severely problematic, then for most it would not "rule". A lot of diseases formerly labelled "Autism" are now being shown as genetic disorders, e.g. the addition or deletion of parts of a person's DNA. Some people with these additions and deletions function reasonably well, but others have trouble with basic things like toilet training, etc, and will never be able to function as adults. They simply cannot care for themselves.

Those with "autism" along the line of Asperger's Syndrome, then you really are quite lucky.

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Posted on 01-06-08 01:14:47 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Tarale
Those with "autism" along the line of Asperger's Syndrome, then you really are quite lucky.

Lucky as in how?

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Posted on 01-06-08 01:23:14 AM Link | Quote

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To not have full-blown Autism, and thus, suffer from a variety of crippling mental problems which make normal functioning in society difficult to impossible.

The line between mental strangeness and disability is quite thin, one which many people on the wrong side of it live in constant pain because of. Bad Grammar notwithstanding.

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Posted on 01-06-08 01:37:23 AM Link | Quote
Exactly. People with Asperger's are lucky not to have a much more severe type of Autism. As I said, there are much, much worse types that exist. If you have Asperger's, you are one of the lucky ones.

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Posted on 01-06-08 05:33:02 AM Link | Quote
Jul - Post #2065 - 01-06-08 12:33:02am
Originally posted by Metal_Man88
The line between mental strangeness and disability is quite thin, one which many people on the wrong side of it live in constant pain because of. Bad Grammar notwithstanding.
Yes, that was one of the things I forgot to re-type. A lot of mental "disorders" such as this really only amount to different ways of thinking (and probably the occasional odd habit or minor nervous twitch). To call it a disability is like saying your car has a disability because it runs on cooking oil instead of conventional fuel.

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Posted on 01-06-08 07:20:26 AM Link | Quote

Originally posted by HyperHacker
To call it a disability is like saying your car has a disability because it runs on cooking oil instead of conventional fuel.

I believe people have written stories about this before, about Dystopian worlds where all humans were being forced to conform to one way, and the ones who didn't were labeled "defective" even though they actually had individuality.

(to Tarale) I don't believe in luck. I believe in blessings bestowed upon mortal souls by a higher power. If I have Autism it's for a reason.

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Posted on 01-07-08 02:02:20 AM Link | Quote
See, I don't believe in a higher power. But if you believe you have a specific type of autism for a reason, then that's fine by me.

I still think that those of you with milder forms of autism are exceptionally lucky. I hope you also count your blessings for the fact that you are not affected by a more severe form of Autism.

I'm not saying the word "luck" as some kind of challenge to a deity; rather to point out that not all autism is rainbows and sunshine like some of you would claim.

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