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Posted on 02-18-18 05:57:33 PM Link | Quote
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My 500 GB Seagate hard drive gave me a wonderful birthday present today! It died. Taking along a ton of music, ROMs, backups, and so on. It's no longer recognized on bootup; it doesn't even output anything over serial, while another 40 GB Seagate I have does.

So, I need a replacement - one that's not too terribly expensive, but also not likely to fail within the first year or two. But the last drive I bought was my 1 TB Samsung Spinpoint (still in good health!) back in 2010, so I have no idea which manufacturers and models today are good, which are bad, or hell, which ones still exist! Samsung doesn't make 'em anymore, apparently their HDD business was bought by Seagate.

Looking around, the only(?) manufacturers these days are Seagate, WD and Toshiba, and... all three seem to be a bit of a crapshoot? With drives said to be failing or getting slower after very short periods of time, and in turn people recommending staying away from one brand and getting one from the other, while other people say the opposite, etc...

On the positive side, since there's only these three left, making a shortlist of drives was easy - all are 2 TB, SATA 3 (6 Gb/s), 3.5" and not too expensive (around 60 Euro):

- Seagate Barracuda (ST2000DM006)
- WD Blue (WD20EZRZ)
- Toshiba P300 (HDWD130[?])

...now which one would you recommend, tho? I'm seeing similar reviews and such for all three of these. Do you have any of these, or any similar drives from the same manufacturer? Have you been happy with the drive or had any issues?


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Posted on 02-18-18 06:06:01 PM Link | Quote
I have had no issues with Western Digital drives so far. I will say you should only go for internal drives, and I have the software project to explain why.
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Posted on 02-18-18 08:50:41 PM Link | Quote
I work in a datacenter.

There's basically no correlation between manufacturer and reliability, nor is there any correlation between the reliability of one model and the reliability of another.

Back up your data.

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Posted on 02-18-18 09:03:20 PM (last edited by xdaniel at 02-18-18 09:05:56 PM) Link | Quote
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...yeah, the "back up your data" part is where I failed hard. Hell, I did notice CrystalDiskInfo showing me a freaking health warning for the drive, but I was dragging my feet! And that's what I get, very much deservedly so, I guess...

Anyway, I'll see if I can pick up a new drive in town tomorrow, otherwise I'll order one on Amazon. As for backups, what I'm thinking is to...

1) Install the new drive, gather all the important data I want/need to be backed up on it.
2) Next month (because cost), get another drive of the same size - either an external drive (tho not a WD as per andlabs), or an internal one plus a USB 3.0 enclosure.
3) Run regular, (semi-)automated backups from the new internal drive to the external drive, and only use the external drive to store that backup data.

...and 4), in case of another catastrophic failure, have the external drive (with at worst minor data loss) ready to copy its contents back to a new internal drive.

Does that sound sensible?


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Posted on 02-18-18 09:49:16 PM Link | Quote
kazinsal@araxes> show file jul:/posts/kazinsal/584

Originally posted by Joe
I work in a datacenter.

There's basically no correlation between manufacturer and reliability, nor is there any correlation between the reliability of one model and the reliability of another.

Back up your data.


Seconding this. They're all good these days. I've got a mix of WDs and Seagates spread over the past five years in my machine -- some enterprise, some not -- and haven't had problems with any of them.

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Posted on 02-18-18 10:55:59 PM Link | Quote
HHDs have a small failure rate from factory production, like, a few disks per batch is bad and they die within the first few years. But you can't really know that when you get them, it's worth it to plan around it even if you're very, very, unlikely to get one of the bad ones when you buy them.

Like, IIRC, it's was either around 0.2% or 0.02% of disks.

But yeah, just buy whatever brand, shouldn't be that bad.

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Posted on 02-19-18 04:04:02 PM Link | Quote
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Thanks for the information and reassurance. I ended up going for the 2 TB WD Blue (WD20EZRZ-00Z5HB0) because it was in stock at a local store for 63 Euro. Installed it about 3 hours ago, and am now shoveling data onto it, tho nothing irreplaceable quite yet, just in the unlikely event it might be a dud.

I also am most likely going to go the "get another drive next month for regular backups, and only backups" route; probably another WD Blue like this one, plus a USB 3.0 enclosure for it.


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I quit using Seagate after one drive I had kept making nasty noises and eventually failed. I always keep stuff backed up externally though, around every 4 months or so I run a backup.

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Posted on 08-24-18 12:09:00 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Zeether
I quit using Seagate after one drive ...


I quit using WD after one drive, too...

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Posted on 09-02-18 06:50:10 PM Link | Quote
I've two Seagate hard drives, one 1 TB bought in 2009 that Defraggler is noting that it could go in the next year or two, and a 5 TB one that I deadass almost bricked.

Don't defrag under the influence, but on the flip side, it did help that I kept calm during the kerfuffle. But I am gonna keep an eye on it.

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Posted on 10-20-18 04:09:20 PM Link | Quote
If it's a DM00x (x being any number) in the last five digits of a Seagate model number, run. I've replaced so many of them (and two for myself, one coming from Seagate as a refurb to replace my dead one on cross-ship) I've lost count. I have absolutely no idea what is up with the technology that they use but they all die a fearsome death and I believe had a 40% failure rate over one year when it originally released. Bad is over 5. Ironically, their 8TB+ NM00x models that are gas-filled are almost immortal. I'm not entirely certain what changed but perhaps that gas does it all.

WD is all right. HGST is better overall. I'd probably tell you look at BackBlaze for comparison of failure rates and make your own judgement.
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Posted on 10-21-18 01:59:48 AM (last edited by Kazinsal at 10-21-18 02:00:28 AM) Link | Quote
kazinsal@araxes> show file jul:/posts/kazinsal/616

The helium-filled Seagates are usually shingled magnetic recording (SMR) drives so they're a bit slower but have incredible density and reliability.

The WD EasyStore or WD Elements external drives have either a WD Red or the HGST equivalent inside them, so you can get one of those on the cheap and rip the enclosure off for a decent, reliable hard drive.

e: HGST is owned by WD and OEMs most of their high quality drives.

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I'd say HGST follwed by WD is your best bet. Both are pretty reliable...but anymore it really depends if you need something for a spacehog drive or if you need one for a boot or Steam or gaming drive and, if it's one of those latter, you should really consider an SSD. Anymore, you can get a 1TB for almost $100 on sale and I've seen them as low as about that as of late. Just waiting for 2TB drives to get down to that but I have a feeling that's still a few years off.

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So, 10 months after that HDD crash, I'm satisfied with the two 2 TB WD Blue (WD20EZRZ-00Z5HB0) I had ended up buying. One's serving as the replacement for the dead 500 GB Seagate internally, while the other one's installed in an external USB 3.0 enclosure, serving primarily as a backup drive for the internal one.

Both are healthy, the internal drive with 352 power cycles and around 4000 hours, the external one with 38 power cycles and about 130 hours, and with neither having reallocated or pending sectors or somesuch. They're not the fastest drives (only 5400 rpm, and the internal one's not on a SATA-600 port) but they're doing their jobs fine.

Those two aside, I have two Samsung EVO SSDs in the system (one 250 GB 860 with Windows 7, one 120 GB 840 with macOS via Clover) and my old 1 TB Samsung HDD (HD103SJ, bought in 2010, 3427 power cycles, ca. 33600 hours) in another external enclosure. Those appear to be in decent shape, too.


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This may sound like a dumb question but, if a computer isn't getting enough power from the PSU (like my computer did before I bought a new PSU for it), is it possible that it would cause the HDD to start failing randomly? Or if one starts failing, it's mostly certainly an issue of the HDD itself rather than any external factor?

Two of my former HDDs were having issues on my computer, with one of them even making a weird noise at times (during which, the transfer rate would drop to 0 and the HDD would become inaccessible). But both have been working perfectly fine on my father's computer for months without any errors or any random noise and I'm seriously puzzled about why this is the case.

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I'm pretty sure you've just described what happens when a power fluctuation causes the hard drive to shut off to protect itself.

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Originally posted by RanAS
This may sound like a dumb question but, if a computer isn't getting enough power from the PSU (like my computer did before I bought a new PSU for it), is it possible that it would cause the HDD to start failing randomly? Or if one starts failing, it's mostly certainly an issue of the HDD itself rather than any external factor?

Two of my former HDDs were having issues on my computer, with one of them even making a weird noise at times (during which, the transfer rate would drop to 0 and the HDD would become inaccessible). But both have been working perfectly fine on my father's computer for months without any errors or any random noise and I'm seriously puzzled about why this is the case.

Sorry for the late reply.

My older computer had this issue where it would randomly disconnect stuff from one specific SATA port because the computer kept heating up and it made that port go wonky. It took me years to realize this and I believe one of my drives was permanently damaged because of it (coincidentally it's one I gave to a buddy... he told me it died two weeks after I passed it off to him!)

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line 160 column 230 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 160 column 273 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 160 column 316 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 160 column 359 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 261 column 15 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 261 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 261 column 58 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 261 column 187 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 261 column 230 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 371 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 371 column 58 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 371 column 101 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 371 column 144 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 371 column 187 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 371 column 230 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 371 column 273 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 371 column 316 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 390 column 220 - Warning: <span> anchor "xdan-wbwindowtitle" already defined
line 390 column 301 - Warning: <div> anchor "xdan-wbwindowinner" already defined
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line 492 column 101 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 492 column 144 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 492 column 187 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 492 column 230 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 492 column 273 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 492 column 273 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 492 column 316 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 492 column 316 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 492 column 359 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 554 column 15 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 554 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 554 column 58 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 554 column 58 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 554 column 101 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 554 column 144 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 554 column 187 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 554 column 230 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 554 column 230 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 554 column 273 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 554 column 273 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 554 column 316 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 554 column 316 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 554 column 359 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
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line 580 column 58 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 580 column 101 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 580 column 144 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 580 column 187 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 580 column 187 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 580 column 230 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 580 column 230 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 580 column 273 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 580 column 273 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 580 column 316 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 580 column 316 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 580 column 359 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 580 column 402 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 581 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 581 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 582 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 592 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 599 column 196 - Warning: <div> anchor "xdan-wbwindow" already defined
line 599 column 220 - Warning: <span> anchor "xdan-wbwindowtitle" already defined
line 599 column 301 - Warning: <div> anchor "xdan-wbwindowinner" already defined
line 606 column 1682 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 606 column 1793 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 617 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 617 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 617 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 618 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 637 column 3969 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 645 column 64 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 645 column 163 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 656 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 671 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 671 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 671 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 671 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 672 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 682 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 703 column 44 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 703 column 142 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 703 column 246 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 712 column 25 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 717 column 267 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 149 column 50 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 425 column 111 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 697 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 700 column 50 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 177 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 222 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 248 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 278 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 321 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 357 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 388 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 423 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 451 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 481 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 483 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 509 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 537 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 571 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 597 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 633 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 661 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 687 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 429 warnings and 0 errors!


The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

About HTML Tidy: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5
Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
Latest HTML specification: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/
Validate your HTML documents: http://validator.w3.org/nu/
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Do you speak a language other than English, or a different variant of
English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/blob/master/README/LOCALIZE.md