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Posted on 10-21-18 08:32:28 PM Link | Quote
everything is bad

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Posted on 10-21-18 08:35:48 PM Link | Quote
This whole thing makes me sick -- feels like we're heading for some point of no return at an ever-increasing rate... But like (probably) most of this place, I've no means to leave.
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Posted on 10-21-18 08:40:56 PM Link | Quote
trump's a fascist and everyone who supports him is a sociopath

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Posted on 10-21-18 08:52:53 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Rambly
trump's a fascist and everyone who supports him is a sociopath

I would argue that Trump is also a sociopath and that everyone who supports him is a fascist, but at that point what's the difference?


This whole thing makes me sick

I felt physically ill when I first read it and was lucky to get back to sleep.

Not terribly unlike the day the results of the election hit, actually

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Posted on 10-21-18 08:56:24 PM Link | Quote
This sucks

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Posted on 10-21-18 09:03:10 PM Link | Quote
you can say that again

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Posted on 10-22-18 12:44:36 AM Link | Quote
what do you mean by "don't read this" it can't be that bad

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Posted on 10-22-18 12:46:28 AM Link | Quote
I need to stop saying that because, invariably, the news somehow always gets even worse

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Posted on 10-22-18 12:58:16 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Xkeeper
I felt physically ill when I first read it and was lucky to get back to sleep.

Not terribly unlike the day the results of the election hit, actually
It didn't really give me the same anxiety/dread feelings. I think because I saw something like this as an inevitability as far back as 2016.

Mostly, right now, I just feel fucking angry. I know I'm probably relatively safe, but what about all of the trans girls who live in red states who don't have any state protections? Is their right to exist, to work, to shelter, to use the goddamned restroom, to not be subject to senseless acts of violence, to live, etc. suddenly a point of negotiation? Why? On what grounds? Aesthetic ones? Some ill-defined notions of what right and wrong are? On what cynical grounds beyond humanity?

I feel furious at anyone who argues right-wingers' rhetoric for them. I feel furious at their crypto-Fourth Reich bullshit. I feel furious at the bloodlust that I know exists in some peoples' hearts, and I feel furious at their lack of empathy. I feel furious at anyone who could possibly take a middling stance on the right of a person to exist. I feel furious at anyone who doesn't feel something in their heart sink at the suggestion that some people don't have value. It doesn't goddamned matter if it's about gay people, or trans people, or people of color, or disabled people, or anyone. It doesn't matter if concentration camps aren't literally spawning. We all know what the machine of capitalism does to people who are disenfranchised. We all know what the purpose is. And we all know what the subtext is.

I am angry.

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Posted on 10-22-18 11:33:58 AM Link | Quote
I feel the same way as Rambly, except that I'm also worried it could lead to me not being able to transition after college.

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Posted on 10-22-18 12:37:18 PM Link | Quote

im literally at a loss for words, i hate this

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Posted on 10-22-18 05:52:20 PM (last edited by Jamie at 10-22-18 05:53:26 PM) Link | Quote
What's next, I know: segregation of the LGBTQ people and sending them to concentration camps? I honeslty wouldn't be surprised if that happened

This is absolutely pathetic though... legal discrimination at its fucking finest.

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Posted on 10-23-18 04:10:34 AM Link | Quote
At this point, nothing from this administration really shocks me anymore...


(at least I voted today, though)

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Posted on 10-23-18 04:37:09 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Jamie
What's next, I know: segregation of the LGBTQ people and sending them to concentration camps? I honeslty wouldn't be surprised if that happened
I don't think we're at that point. Not because Trump and his cronies wouldn't want that (they'd love if they could do that), but because he probably couldn't get away with that even with how absolutely fucked up our political system is. There's really no legal cause for something like that. Lord knows he's been trying with immigrants. Our system of law is extremely broken, but as long as we have a system of law there'll be people at judicial levels working to protect civil rights.

I doubt anything like banning HRT or concentration camps is going to come of this, but states without legal protections (rights to employment, housing, restroom usage, etc.) probably aren't going to have any protections at the federal level anymore if this passes.

That's scary enough, especially for anyone in a relatively conservative part of the country. Not everyone has the resources to just up and leave their state of residence for a nice blue bubbley one, especially given that those states tend to be more expensive to live in. All it takes is a lack of access to employment to fuck over a lot of trans people in a world where parents can be unsupportive and kick their kids out. The scary thing isn't that trans people are gonna be rounded up and put in camps, the scary thing is that a lot of trans people are going to have their livelihoods ruined, possibly being forced into homelessness and worse.

That said, I believe that the distinction between genocide and ostracization from a capitalist society hardly matters in practice -- the intent is clearly there, people will be hurt as a result of this, and the complete lack of value this administration assigns to trans people as human beings is evident. The psychological ramifications of knowing that the ultimate authority someone lives under wants them to not exist, that probably their more local authorities are broadly in support of and will look to enforce in areas like the public school system, are horrible, particularly for young people. And statements like this from the Trump administration only serve to empower the world's worst bullies. (The idea that the federal government is even suggesting genetic evidence can be used as a means to determine sex has horrifying implications, too.)

All of this is an extremely good reminder of why you should be voting if you can. In midterms, in state and county and municipal elections, primaries, ballot initiatives, everywhere. Local elections might seem like they don't matter that much, but state protections offer a pretty good cushion for a lot of people, and today's state representatives are tomorrow's U.S. senators and the next day's executive leaders. Donate to grassroots organizations that support LGBT rights and civil rights in general if you can. (not the ACLU, they suck butt)

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Posted on 11-02-18 03:00:04 AM (last edited by WarioBarker at 11-02-18 03:18:34 AM) Link | Quote
Taking away basic rights and protections from trans people would be a pretty clear-cut human rights violation, not to mention blatant discrimination.

Originally posted by hydra-calm
This whole thing makes me sick -- feels like we're heading for some point of no return at an ever-increasing rate... But like (probably) most of this place, I've no means to leave.

I don't think any of us can afford to leave the planet...not that doing so would help.

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Posted on 11-30-18 07:17:22 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Jamie
What's next, I know: segregation of the LGBTQ people and sending them to concentration camps? I honeslty wouldn't be surprised if that happened

This is absolutely pathetic though... legal discrimination at its fucking finest.


If that happens, I will literally kill anybody who comes to me attempting to throw me in those camps. I don't give a shit, I will literally die for my cause at this point.
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Originally posted by moochmcgee
Originally posted by Jamie
What's next, I know: segregation of the LGBTQ people and sending them to concentration camps? I honeslty wouldn't be surprised if that happened

This is absolutely pathetic though... legal discrimination at its fucking finest.


If that happens, I will literally kill anybody who comes to me attempting to throw me in those camps. I don't give a shit, I will literally die for my cause at this point.

Unfortunately, the people who will pass shit like this understand this and will try and ruin our lives in much simpler and easier ways that won't risk them being pushed back against outside of court. We are living in such a society that allows the court to ruin an entire people's lives just by allowing companies to not employ them.

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Posted on 01-17-19 06:38:19 AM (last edited by Iris at 01-17-19 06:38:52 AM) Link | Quote
The Trump administration at this point is surely a great example of right wing, "I pretend to care" idiocy. It was like that from the start but this is pretty much the tipping point for it all.

As I said in my previous post, it shouldn't just be what all the big people in authority want personally but what people want and for society to move forward we need to be forward thinking, Trump's administration is the most backwards there's been in a long time considering it's America (I'm not really counting typical dictator countries here)
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Posted on 01-17-19 02:56:48 PM (last edited by Gabu at 01-17-19 02:58:03 PM) Link | Quote
Snark incoming, but it's ironic how little right-wingers tend to care about showing how much they care about this country, and it's likely because they were moved up through the school system instead of being held back simply out of pity/white people helping white people... and no one else.

That aside, I simply cannot wait for when the 2020 election goes into full swing and people fall for the same stupidity as last time, except instead of emails, it's the shutdown.

Like Je-SUS conservatives, moderates, et. al, most of those idiots failed to see a good choice for president when the pool was otherwise littered with crap 3rd party options at best, I highly doubt these so-called "intellectuals" have actually learned much.

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line 736 column 267 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 149 column 50 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 716 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 719 column 50 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
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line 203 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
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line 709 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 289 warnings and 0 errors!


The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

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Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
Latest HTML specification: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/
Validate your HTML documents: http://validator.w3.org/nu/
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English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/blob/master/README/LOCALIZE.md