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Posted on 06-01-18 10:11:57 PM (last edited by devin at 06-01-18 10:20:01 PM) Link | Quote
https://tcrf.net/Proto:Pokémon_Gold_and_Silver
sanqui & co.'s big ol' info spreadsheet

You've probably seen this already, but I felt like a thread for collecting info about this thing would be good just so stuff doesn't get lost into the chaos of the Discord channel.

(Please discuss actual edits to those articles on the relevant talk pages, if possible)

Here's a WTW code courtesy of Zephiles on Discord:
Walk Through Walls
010890CB
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Posted on 06-01-18 10:20:57 PM Link | Quote
Note, I tried Red and Green codes and final Gold and Silver code and got nothin.
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Posted on 06-01-18 10:26:13 PM (last edited by bluesun at 06-01-18 10:29:04 PM) Link | Quote
In New Game mod / full intro mod, the Rival battle is broken because the Rival's team data is in Gen1 format instead of the Gen2 format expected.
Can be fixed with the following ROM edit, converting the data to Gen2 format:

0x39375: 53 50 00 05 9E FF 53 50 00 05 98 FF 53 50 00 05 9B FF
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Posted on 06-01-18 11:08:43 PM Link | Quote
Since yesterday, I've done more testing, including connecting with Pokemon Crystal and Pokemon Ao (Blue) with multiple glitchmon. My question to TCRF is, should this be mentioned on the wiki somewhere? Where and how could I add this information? I updated the readme and zip file with more screenshots and video from today's testing, which I'll post below.

ZIP file: https://mega.nz/#!6S4GEKRI!g6u4KTWxqgdCku80Y567nqI6aok5GnLZbsTzvsjm6gM

I ran some tests regarding using the Link Cable Club in the Pokemon Gold Spaceworld 1997 demo with various games. I used TGB Dual for testing, both standalone and the Retroarch core. You NEED to change the rom extension to .gb for Link Cable Club to work. I have multiple screenshots included in this zip file. I'll list my findings here.

Linking with Pokemon Gold and Silver Spaceworld 1997 demos:

* I used the debug menu with both instances of the game to warp to the second town, as it has a Pokemon Center with a trading facility, and caught a Gen1 Pokemon in one instance

* Trading works fine; its interface is the same as in Gen1

* Trading video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28DJOzAmvws

* Both trainers had different trainer IDs

* Battling works fine and is playable, but the Trainer text is garbled; freeze upon re-battling

* Battle video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbW8iqQs4EM

* Held items used in Linked VS are gone forever after use

* Bonus Gold and Silver Cable Club showcase video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-zfouWN9is

Linking with Pokemon Aka (Red) Rev 1:

* Gold still checks whether or not your party is Gen1 compatible

* Gold is transported to a Gen1 Pokemon center after using the time capsule

* Gold can only select to trade from a blank menu; battling does not work

* Trading works fine; no problems as Gold's trading is Gen1 trading

* With trading, you can send a Gold 97 monster all the way to Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon

Linking with Pokemon Yellow Rev 0A:

* Trading functions the same way as Red

* You can trade Pikachu, but Pikachu is not special in any way and will not be holding its light ball in Gold

* Pikachu is still shiny in Gold

Linking with Pokemon Ao (Blue) Glitchmon:

* I caught three missingno using the Mew Glitch, trainer locations are marked in the zip screenshots

* All three missingno crash Blue when viewing their stats in Blue

* Trading interface works and Gold is able to view the three missingno as Gen2 Pokemon (Elebaby, Skiploom, and Jumpluff)

* Blue Trading video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmmZ14Tl-30

* Gold cannot obtain any Missingno from Blue as it checks the Pokemon before finalizing the trade

Linking with Pokemon Gin (Silver) and Pokemon Crystal:

* Attempted to have Gold trade and battle with Silver's Totodile and Kakuna, then just Kakuna, but nothing was successful

* Gold is able to access the trade room, but Gold crashes when waiting for Silver. Silver behaves normally and states the connection has failed

* Time capsule does not function at all

* Crystal has the same behavior as Silver

Feel free to send me suggestions on what else I can test. I don't believe I can test with Stadium as save data is not generated for Gold, but if there's a way, I absolutely will try it out. Thank you for reading, and remember to check the zip file for screenshots (apologies for the accidental CRT filter). If you have any questions or suggestions, feel free to chat with me on /vp/, reddit, Discord, or gmail.

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Posted on 06-02-18 12:29:10 AM Link | Quote
Has anyone documented the Pokemon cries yet? I bet we'd find some interesting info if we compared them to the final game.

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Since I'm probably too slow to contribute much of anything to the reverse-engineering process, here's what notes I'd made. Might not be 100% accurate, might soon be outdated with the disassembly progressing, etc., but still:

00:25FA -> part of map loading routine?

 A = map bank number


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RAM:D661 -> Map type?? (color, BGM)

RAM:D662 -> Pointer to map header


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Warp menu / possibly Fly target data - ROM 0xC7D5


0x2E * 0x04 = 0xB8 bytes


01 Map group

04 Map number

05        X position

05        Y position


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Map header - RAM:D664 (partially?)


Player's House 1F:        34:4042

Player's House 2F:   34:4132

Silent Hill:         36:4014 (0xD8014)

Route 1 (1):               36:59DF

Route 1 (interior):  2F:53DD

Route 1 (2):         36:5ABE

Route 1 gate 1F:     26:4000

Route 1 gate 2F:     26:40DA

Old City:            36:410D

"Bellsprout" Tower 1F:       25:4289

"Bellsprout" Tower 2F:       25:4319

Kurt's house:                25:49AC

...


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Map header format (ex. Silent Hill)


09   Height          v (maybe swapped?)

0A        Width           ^

B340       Pointer to map data

D578     (some important ptr 1)

6976  (some important ptr 2)

4340  Pointer to after connection data

0B  Connection byte

 0C01C87303C60A0A090051C6    Connection data 1

 0101435A30C6090F001D24C6  Connection data 2

 01037C723DC6091E000025C6  Connection data 3


Tileset header format (ex. Tileset 00) -- as per disasm @ https://github.com/pret/pokegold-spaceworld/blob/master/data/tileset_headers.asm


06   Bank

0044    Pointer to block data

0040   Pointer to tile data

004C    Pointer to collision data

77 Talking over tile 1

40       Talking over tile 2

00       Talking over tile 2

00       Unknown


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RAM: CB5F -> cursor location (various menus; ex. town map, Pokegear)


Town map locations:

ID  Location                                                Possible name origin ideas

00        Silent Hill                                             translates to "shizuka oka" -> Shizuoka

01   "Old"                   (city north/west of 00)         2nd kanji of Nagoya means "old"

02   "West"                  (city west of 01)               Kyoto was known as "Western Capital" for a time, see Wikipedia

03    "Hi-Tech"               (city west of 02)               (Tokushima? not sure about naming)

04        "Font"                  (city north of 03)              (Hiroshima? Okayama? not sure)

05    "Bardon"                (city east of 04)

06 "New Type"              (city east of 05)

07 "Sugar"                 (city north of 06)

08        "Blue Forest"           (city east of 07)

09 "Stand"                 (city south of 08)

0A        "Kanto"                 (city east of Silent Hill)

0B                                (point north of Silent Hill)

0C                              (city north of 0B)

0D        "South"                 (city west of 04)

0E "North"                 (city north of 08)

0F        Route 15                (route directly west of 06)

10       Route 18                (point north/east of 06)


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SGB command packets? - ROM 0x986C


0x2E * 0x10 = 0x2E0 bytes


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SGB palettes - ROM 0x9C4C


0x3A * 0x08 = 0x1D0 bytes


9C73 = RGB 28,28,42

B742 = RGB 23,21,16

8F52 = RGB 15,20,20

8410 = RGB 04,04,04

...


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Sprite defintions? - ROM 0x1423B


0x5B * 0x04 = 0x16C bytes ??


...


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Posted on 06-03-18 06:58:50 PM Link | Quote
UESCTerm 802.11 (remote override)
044 05.10.2337

map viewer for spaceworld demo
https://github.com/2Tie/Elfs2World

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Tileset animation notes (ex. disassembly appears to be incorrect at the moment regarding "talking over tiles"). Hope this makes sense.

Additional notes:
// 23:401F (0x8C01F) -> animation data; 0xFC bytes, 4 bytes per entry: [RAM address 2b][function address 2b]


//  (addresses might be incorrect as anim *starts*)

//  23:401F: animated water (tile 03) + animated flowers (tile 38)

//  23:4023: animated flowers

//  23:4027: still water + animated flowers

//  23:402B: "" (diff frame?)

//  23:402F: "" (diff frame?)

//  23:4033: "" (diff frame?)

//  23:4037: "" (diff frame?)

//  23:403B: still water + still flowers

//  23:403F: "" (diff frame?)

//  23:4043: "" (diff frame?)

//  23:4047: "" (diff frame?)

//  23:404B: animated water (L/R) + still flowers

//  23:4053: still water + still flowers

//  23:4057: ""

//  23:405B: ""

//  23:405F: ""

//  ...

//  23:4077: (animated water + tile 53; waterfalls?)

//  ...

//  23:40A7: (animated water + tile 54; conveyor belts?)

//  ...

//  23:40BB: (animated water + tile 54; conveyor belts?)

//  ...

//  23:40CB: (animated tile 54)

//  ...

//  23:40DF: (animated tile 4F)

//  ...



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UESCTerm 802.11 (remote override)
044 05.10.2337

yeah i've noticed the talk-over-tiles thing too. stems from using my map editor to document the map layout and me not changing too much from when it was a gen 1 map editor. i've since changed it in the editor but i haven't really been contributing to the disassembly documentation, so...

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line 177 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 216 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 242 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 271 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 365 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 369 column 731 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 396 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 540 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 567 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 631 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 221 warnings and 0 errors!


URIs must be properly escaped, they must not contain unescaped
characters below U+0021 including the space character and not
above U+007E. Tidy escapes the URI for you as recommended by
HTML 4.01 section B.2.1 and XML 1.0 section 4.2.2. Some user agents
use another algorithm to escape such URIs and some server-sided
scripts depend on that. If you want to depend on that, you must
escape the URI on your own. For more information please refer to
http://www.w3.org/International/O-URL-and-ident.html

The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

About HTML Tidy: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5
Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
Latest HTML specification: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/
Validate your HTML documents: http://validator.w3.org/nu/
Lobby your company to join the W3C: http://www.w3.org/Consortium

Do you speak a language other than English, or a different variant of
English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/blob/master/README/LOCALIZE.md