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| Jul - News - There was yet another school shooting |
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Tarale Catgirl C:\ DOS C:\ DOS RUN RUN DOS RUN Level: 78      Posts: 1591/1676 EXP: 4298272 For next: 83954 Since: 07-23-07 Pronouns: she/her Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 1 hour
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Originally posted by Amberetto Thank you so much for being much more specific and clear about what I was trying to say. Originally posted by Amberetto Superior tech does not necessarily mean they would destroy any resistance. In the Vietnam war, the US had vastly superior technology but the guerrilla tactics of the Viet Cong made things a lot harder. And pretty much every war ever since has been similar. |
Gabu Star Mario Placeholder Ikachan until :effort: is found Level: 162  Posts: 9787/9806 EXP: 54717276 For next: 574000 Since: 08-10-09 Pronouns: they/them, she/her From: Santa Cruisin' USA Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 2 days
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| Honestly though, I'd see that scenario playing out more like Germany's invasion of Poland. Most history books will gloss over the fact that the Polish people turned their own basements into weapon factories, built tanks out of scrap, and made Molotov catapults.
And regardless of that, they were still very much steamrolled after six weeks. I don't know what very-late 1930's Poland was like with gun control, and I admire Poland's scrappiness, and it's a different time now, yet unless some amazing teamwork and strategy is employed, I can only imagine the same overall steamrolling scenario playing out. |
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Xkeeper Level: 243  Posts: 23358/23358 EXP: 224198208 For next: 2717412 Since: 07-03-07 Pronouns: they/them, she/her, etc. Since last post: 3 days Last activity: 3 days
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Originally posted by Tarale The problem is that we now have fully remotely operated murdering devices — drones. Guerilla warfare isn't going to matter when some bean counter in some office is shooting a missile at you from across the country. |
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Tarale Catgirl C:\ DOS C:\ DOS RUN RUN DOS RUN Level: 78 Posts: 1599/1676 EXP: 4298272 For next: 83954 Since: 07-23-07 Pronouns: she/her Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 1 hour
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Originally posted by XkeeperOriginally posted by Tarale They still need the intel. They'll probably just combine it with some machine learning shit and let the drones go nuts, I think I read a wacky Daniel Suarez book about that shit… |
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Xkeeper Level: 243 Posts: 23358/23358 EXP: 224198208 For next: 2717412 Since: 07-03-07 Pronouns: they/them, she/her, etc. Since last post: 3 days Last activity: 3 days
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| The intel comes from the rampant NSA spying and the fact that most people willingly tell Facebook pretty much everything about their lives. |
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Gabu Star Mario Placeholder Ikachan until :effort: is found Level: 162 Posts: 9789/9806 EXP: 54717276 For next: 574000 Since: 08-10-09 Pronouns: they/them, she/her From: Santa Cruisin' USA Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 2 days
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| Kinda late on the whole thing on the role mental illness has, but Cracked has an astute article on the subject. |
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eifie Member Level: 12  Posts: 69/88 EXP: 6674 For next: 1247 Since: 02-13-18 From: Rural Indiana Since last post: 24 days Last activity: 7 days
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| soo there was a threat made to my little brothers school today and nobody took it seriously even though the emails from the ex-student were made earlier in the week. the threats were made in emails and instagram posts where he threatened to shoot up the place, and administration in the school did a bunch of hand waving and told kids the source wasnt credible and that the person was just looking for 15 minutes of fame. 2/3rds of the students went home early and the kid was reportedly arrested. this wont be in the news or anything since "nothing happened" but im terrified to know how poorly my brothers school faculty handled this. ive been talking to him about these issues since he got home.
edit: closest relevant article i could find https://www.indystar.com/story/news/education/2018/02/20/indiana-schools-see-rush-reported-gun-threats-after-florida-mass-shooting/350499002/ |
divingkataetheweirdo Bandit TCRF Super Editor Level: 53  Posts: 804/805 EXP: 1136802 For next: 20317 Since: 07-09-11 Since last post: 35 days Last activity: 45 days
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| Good god, the non-actions from school administrations is pretty infuriating. If the administrations actually started taking the threats seriously and put in something to counter the gun-free zone status that shooters take advantage of, there might be something done to at least reduce the number of shootings. Even just simply having a dedicated cop on campus helps mitigate it. |
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Xkeeper Level: 243 Posts: 23358/23358 EXP: 224198208 For next: 2717412 Since: 07-03-07 Pronouns: they/them, she/her, etc. Since last post: 3 days Last activity: 3 days
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| A lot of places already have on-campus cops. I know my highschool did and that was over 15 years ago.
The problem isn't the gun free zone. E: To give you an idea, the Vegas shooter was in a hotel full of very armed guards and it still took minutes for anything to be done. |
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eifie Member Level: 12 Posts: 77/88 EXP: 6674 For next: 1247 Since: 02-13-18 From: Rural Indiana Since last post: 24 days Last activity: 7 days
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Originally posted by Xkeeper yea this. they had cops on campus but they continued to play the entire situation off. in my opinion kids shouldnt have been in the building at /all/ with a threat like that. |
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| The problem with situations like that is it can often be even more dangerous to evacuate than it is to just remain in place. |
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eifie Member Level: 12 Posts: 78/88 EXP: 6674 For next: 1247 Since: 02-13-18 From: Rural Indiana Since last post: 24 days Last activity: 7 days
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Originally posted by Xkeeper yea, honestly theres no good policy for something like that except to work to prevent tragedies like that ahead of time. when i was in school, lockdown policies were in place that told teachers and students to stay in their room and hide under desks, in corners, behind cabinets, etc. with increased shootings the US has a new lockdown policy called "alice" which tells teachers to take students and evacuate the building. spoilered because this may be upsetting, actual gun violence/death warning: Spoiler:
just for an example of how fucked up it is that we have to be teaching these things to children in the first place: my little sister told me at their school when they learned about the new policy, they played an audio recording to the class. it was a recording of a room of students who used the old lockdown policy and it was the teacher telling kids that they couldnt leave the room, to hide under desks, and then the door being knocked down, followed by the teacher pleading the gunman not to shoot them before he finally does. this has been weighing on my mind, the fact that schools thinks kids should have to hear this to understand the gravity of how bad the school shooting situations are here but will not address threats issued. the "we dont negotiate with terrorists" sentiment runs deep. nobody wants to take responsibility so instead we afflict the responsibility upon children. this is traumatizing. america is terrifying. edit: changed wording to clarify more what i meant and how i feel about this sry |
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Mirzaba Member Level: 7  Posts: 26/26 EXP: 1071 For next: 377 Since: 02-13-18 From: Lower Underrail Since last post: 41 days Last activity: 40 days
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Originally posted by eifieOriginally posted by Xkeeper um actually what the heck? That's atrocious and shouldn't be allowed. Fear mongering mondo-film should be banned from schools. But if anyone tries im guessing the whole anti-censorship crowd would shoot that notion down. This issue truly must have a radical (in the non-political sense) solution in which the root of the problem, including this type of extreme exposure, should be resolved. School shooters aren't born, but are shaped by their conditions. Schools need love and encouragement, and should put the welfare of the students above all. Even beyond school shootings, a school which tries to help bullies or troubled students, rather than ignore or harshly punish them can heal deep wounds. Sorry for going a bit off base but I feel like it's all related to the topic. |
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eifie Member Level: 12 Posts: 79/88 EXP: 6674 For next: 1247 Since: 02-13-18 From: Rural Indiana Since last post: 24 days Last activity: 7 days
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| i completely agree about the encouragement issue, empathy is learned and america is facing an epidemic of selfishness at the root of all its major issues rn imo.
also sorry for not posting as much lately in general on this board, ive had a bit going on irl lately leaving me emotionally worn out as you can see. |
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Gabu Star Mario Placeholder Ikachan until :effort: is found Level: 162 Posts: 9796/9806 EXP: 54717276 For next: 574000 Since: 08-10-09 Pronouns: they/them, she/her From: Santa Cruisin' USA Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 2 days
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Originally posted by Mirzaba And it definitely is. I mean our formative years are within a school setting; for what it's worth it'd be great to have the proper funding for direct and indirect nurturing, like psychologists, counselors... art programs... etc., etc. If nothing else, it'd be working on one factor, but also working on a bunch of other, at the most semi-related factors as well. |
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eifie Member Level: 12 Posts: 82/88 EXP: 6674 For next: 1247 Since: 02-13-18 From: Rural Indiana Since last post: 24 days Last activity: 7 days
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Originally posted by eifie i want to clarify with this real quick, i think a better wording would have been "theres no better policy except for to work to prevent tragedies like that." i do still think its important that students understand the risks and possibilities involved in evacuations and lockdowns, i just dont think they need to hear recording of innocent peoples deaths to get the message across. what im really struggling with here is the lack of anyone taking the threats issued seriously. like on a socially conscious level, dont we owe it to ourselves to investigate into this more? i dont see how thats at all acceptable. its only a matter of time before the next shooting. our school systems are frankly a failure on all counts. it is true, lack of counseling, therapy, and truly understanding where these issues stem from systemically as well as guns being far too easy to obtain are whats causing this outbreak in the US. commonly children are treated like objects from the moment of their birth to the moment they turn 18, only to be swiftly kicked out on their asses told that the only way they are allowed to exist is if they bend to fit someone else's mold. im just over here like  |
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