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Posted on 12-27-07 07:07:17 AM Link
Well I've seen some people release pretty bad or rough rom hacks as "demos".

Simple way to avoid this: say that it's "Alpha v0.001" and that it's meant to be a preview of what might come. Demo implies that this is what the full game will look like, and I find that hard to believe.
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Posted on 12-27-07 09:47:48 AM (last edited by Eon at 12-27-07 06:48 AM) Link
Yeah... This is still worlds better than I (perhaps many of us) currently know how to do. Not bad considering Kawa is more known for editing tools or hacking ROMs.

And really, it's homebrew authors which now hold GBA's future. Just about all companies have moved on from it.

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Posted on 12-27-07 11:47:58 AM (last edited by Erika at 12-27-07 09:06 AM) Link
If this is the future of the GBA then :'(

I mean. Walking through walls--a feature? What are we, Sony?

IT'S NOT A DEFECT D:

Edit: I found an incredibly old build of the source before Kawa was able to ruin it TOO badly. I might just work off this and make a REAL OP with Keitaro again (and I suppose any other interested parties, the more the merrier), the way it was supposed to be, ha HA! Accurate, Kawa-free and glitch free.
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Posted on 12-27-07 01:56:25 PM Link
Hey, this thread reminds me of those SMW hack threads where we would all hop on the bandwagon and talk about how bad someone's hack is.

Ah, the good old days...

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Posted on 12-27-07 02:56:57 PM (last edited by IIMarckus at 12-27-07 11:58 AM) Link
Originally posted by Erika
I mean. Walking through walls--a feature? What are we, Sony?

I don't think anyone called that a feature.

It's reasonably impressive homebrew, IMO. Despite its many bugs.

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Posted on 12-27-07 02:57:57 PM Link
There's an OPTION for it apparently. That to me is calling it a feature
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Posted on 12-27-07 03:27:25 PM Link
Originally posted by Erika
There's an OPTION for it apparently. That to me is calling it a feature

So there is, I hadn't noticed.

I still think that all this is an overreaction. I agree that this is too buggy to have been considered a full demo, but our time would probably be better spent working with Kawa to fix these bugs, rather than causing unnecessary conflict.
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I found an incredibly old build of the source before Kawa was able to ruin it TOO badly. I might just work off this and make a REAL OP with Keitaro again (and I suppose any other interested parties, the more the merrier), the way it was supposed to be

Well, hopefully this will go somewhere. More activity in a project is always a good thing!

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Posted on 12-27-07 04:26:56 PM Link
Jul - Post #1941 - 12-27-07 11:26:56am
I got the idea "walk through walls" was a debug option intended to be removed from the final release. It's not uncommon to take advantage of an existing menu system and just add debug stuff to an easily-accessible menu and hide or delete it once you're done. (Diddy Kong Racing used the cheats menu, and they didn't even disable some of them. You can still enter cheats to display coordinates and a ROM checksum.)
Originally posted by Colin
Well I've seen some people release pretty bad or rough rom hacks as "demos".
Especially when it's Pokémon. "LOL CHECK OUT MY DEMO OF POKEMON TURD BROWN I CHANGED TEH COLOURS ON TEH NEW GAME MENU MADE OAK SAY SUMTHIN DIFFERNT AND MOVED A HOUSE IN TEH FRIST TOWN IT TOOK ALL MONTH!"

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Posted on 12-27-07 07:05:11 PM Link
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I don't know why I put this here.
The only problem is that the 'impressive' work was used fixing things which weren't broken, and then not fixing them all the way.

So you get weird bugs everywhere. Okay, I'd understand if it was an alpha or beta version, but from what I've heard it's more of a demo... while demos occasionally include weird or slightly buggy content, this demo seems to be in somewhat bad shape to be complete.

Of course, if it's a prototype demo then I'd understand. Either way, there's no use sitting here and badmouthing it, if I can figure out some code for myself I may as well attempt to make my own some day. Actions speak louder than words, after all.

Also, it is infinitely easier to show somebody a working demo than explain why a broken demo is broken without anything in the same league to compare it to.

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Posted on 12-27-07 08:22:45 PM Link
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Posted on 12-27-07 08:30:13 PM Link
Originally posted by Xkeeper
Ailure: "I would play this even if it deleted my game save data halfway though and took a shit on my desk"



That is an utterly hilarious thread... XD

As for Openpoke, I can't really say much since I haven't bothered to try it... the reviews convinced me my time was better spent otherwise...

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Posted on 12-27-07 09:05:10 PM Link
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I don't know why I put this here.
Wow, I thought hatred for it was confined to JustUs...

Guess OpenPoke truly did fail after all.

*Goes back to poking his dead server*

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Posted on 12-27-07 09:30:48 PM Link
Originally posted by ArBeWhat
You guys need to grow the fuck up.

And Xkeeper, just because you're asexual, and afraid of something you're never gonna get. Sex, I mean.


I smell sweet irony.


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Posted on 12-27-07 09:52:21 PM (last edited by Erika at 12-27-07 06:54 PM) Link
Originally posted by ArBeWhat
I smell a sweet attempt at trying to be cool.


Originally posted by ArBeWhat
And Xkeeper, just because you're asexual, and afraid of something you're never gonna get. Sex, I mean.

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Posted on 12-27-07 09:55:00 PM (last edited by Drag at 12-27-07 06:56 PM) Link
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Please don't feed the troll.

Why are you getting so upset over us saying bad things about Open Poke, anyway?

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Posted on 12-27-07 10:08:29 PM (last edited by Drag at 12-27-07 07:10 PM) Link
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Originally posted by ArBeWhat
Because you didn't just point out errors, you slammed Kawa too, which is unnecessary.

I just reviewed this entire thread, and I didn't find any posts which personally slam Kawa. All I saw were posts that slam Open Poke, not Kawa.

Keep in mind "slam Kawa" to me would be saying something like "oh damn this sucks, Kawa is a dumbass for making this he shouldn't program ever again blah blah", and I didn't anything like that anywhere.

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Posted on 12-27-07 10:10:21 PM Link
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That's right, start an argument about a broken Pokémon game because you guys have absolutely no lives otherwise.

All I see out of this thread is just epic fail. Guess what I do with epic fails?

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