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11-19-17 05:50:37 AM

Jul - News - What the fuck, Australia? New poll - New thread - New reply
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Posted on 08-13-17 02:42:33 AM Link | Quote
Just in case you guys think I'm just picking on the USA, my own country is pretty fucked up too.

We're having a postal survey about marriage equality now. It's the stupidest thing and it makes me very angry. Our awful conservative government refuses to have a free vote in parliament over it. So instead they've tried to have the population vote using a plebiscite—and the legislation to do so has failed, TWICE.

So because they're not allowed to have a proper plebiscite through the Australian Electoral Commission (AEC), they're having this fake plebiscite postal survey through the Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS). And it makes me SO MAD.

For one thing, the postal vote won't be available to a whole bunch of Australians. Homeless people, people on the silent roll, and Indigenous Australians will all find it pretty much impossible to vote. Young people will also have trouble for a variety of reasons, in particular that they move houses so often (locked out of the housing market) so the survey might not reach them in the mail. So it won't give us an accurate idea of Australia's views on this.

Oh and there'll be all kinds of hate campaign shit to go with it I'm sure.

Plus, the ABS have not had a good track record recently with the awful census last year.

JUST GIVE US MARRIAGE EQUALITY ALREADY
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Posted on 08-13-17 02:44:24 AM Link | Quote
Can confirm, things are absolutely and utterly fucked. I've been angry to the point of exhaustion about the issue.

I am not looking forward to the hate campaigning the Australian Christian Lobby are gonna throw around, they've gotten started already.
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Posted on 08-13-17 02:54:13 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Xenesis
Can confirm, things are absolutely and utterly fucked. I've been angry to the point of exhaustion about the issue.

I am not looking forward to the hate campaigning the Australian Christian Lobby are gonna throw around, they've gotten started already.

Ughhhhhhhhhh the ACL. Oh man, and I bet the Rundle Mall preachers are going to become even more disgusting, too.

We checked our enrolment and we're good. As much as I hate this thing, it's stupid to boycott it.

Oh, and I forgot to mention that our government can ignore the outcome, too.
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Posted on 08-13-17 03:06:32 AM Link | Quote
I'm mostly really concerned because the whole thing is a macrocosm of my family house. My sister is gay, my brother is queer and my parents are pretty typical right-ish Baby Boomers.

I'm not gonna look forward to them getting shit piled on them about how they're sub-human from religious shit-heels. The whole process has been designed to be as horrible as humanly possible just...ugh. And yes, the Hate Preachers are gonna be insufferable.
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Posted on 08-13-17 05:14:23 AM Link | Quote
This just confirms that Australia is to New Zealand what the US is to Canada. Same-sex marriage is just a thing that got accepted in parliament one day.
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Posted on 08-16-17 01:36:43 PM Link | Quote
So basically y'all's government is holding a vote that doesn't matter, with limited voting ability even beyond that, just to feed the bigots phony evidence that marriage equality/etc is ~bad~?
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Posted on 08-17-17 05:02:03 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Xkeeper
So basically y'all's government is holding a vote that doesn't matter, with limited voting ability even beyond that, just to feed the bigots phony evidence that marriage equality/etc is ~bad~?


Pretty much. Oh and so we can have a hate campaign.

OH AND THERE'S EVEN PRIVACY CONCERNS BECAUSE THE ABS WANTS TO HAVE UNIQUE BARCODES ON THE BALLOTS.
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Posted on 08-21-17 05:28:21 AM (last edited by Tarale at 08-21-17 05:32:42 AM) Link | Quote
The "respectful debate" has begun, and it's sickening. There's awful "Stop the fags" posters appearing, saying LGBTQ people are child abusers, paedophiles, and full of STDs.

The Prime Minister promised this kind of thing wouldn't happen, but of course it was always going to. This is one reason this plebiscite should never have been a thing.

EDIT: OH GOD THE ACTUAL NAZIS ARE GETTING IN ON IT TOO.
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Posted on 08-21-17 05:34:33 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Tarale
OH AND THERE'S EVEN PRIVACY CONCERNS BECAUSE THE ABS WANTS TO HAVE UNIQUE BARCODES ON THE BALLOTS.


Can't have them voter fraud now /s
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Posted on 08-25-17 12:18:57 PM Link | Quote
It sounds like the registration drive for this actually ended up signing up a lot of new youth voters, so it looks like their plan may have backfired? Especially considering mandatory voting...
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Posted on 08-25-17 07:40:44 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Xkeeper
It sounds like the registration drive for this actually ended up signing up a lot of new youth voters, so it looks like their plan may have backfired? Especially considering mandatory voting...

I'm kind of doubtful that it's resulting in higher numbers of new youth voters. More likely there are people updating their existing enrolment information after moving house. But I could be pleasantly surprised, I guess.
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Posted on 11-14-17 05:51:05 PM Link | Quote
We get results in 10 minutes.
This whole thing is awful. I can’t imagine the anxiety people are feeling today.
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Posted on 11-14-17 05:55:21 PM Link | Quote
*Nervousness intensifies*
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Posted on 11-14-17 06:09:33 PM Link | Quote

YES VOTE WINS with 61.1% of the vote

7,817,247 people voted yes.

4,873,987 voted no


*faints with relief*
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Posted on 11-14-17 06:15:38 PM Link | Quote
YES YES YES

OH GOD THE ANXIETY

OH MAN I WISH THE PERCENTAGE WAS HIGHER BUT STILL

YES

NOW FOR OUR POLLIES TO CONTINUE BEING AWFUL BY DELAYING, WATERING DOWN, AND ENSHRINING DISCRIMINATION INTO THINGS
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Posted on 11-14-17 06:19:17 PM Link | Quote
EVERY ELECTORATE IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA VOTED YES
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Posted on 11-14-17 06:20:06 PM Link | Quote
I love it when these things backfire. Is there any requirement they actually follow this?
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Posted on 11-14-17 06:20:06 PM (last edited by Xenesis at 11-14-17 06:21:01 PM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by Tarale
EVERY ELECTORATE IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA VOTED YES


YES.

SCREW YOU FAMILY FIRST.

SCREW YOU FRED NILE.

SCREW YOU CORY BERNARDI.

Originally posted by Xkeeper
I love it when these things backfire. Is there any requirement they actually follow this?


Nope, it's not binding!
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Posted on 11-14-17 06:21:07 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Xenesis
Originally posted by Tarale
EVERY ELECTORATE IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA VOTED YES


YES.

SCREW YOU FAMILY FIRST.

SCREW YOU FRED NILE.

SCREW YOU CORY BERNARDI.

HOW DO I LIKE THIS POST?
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Posted on 11-14-17 06:23:43 PM Link | Quote
push quote then reply, don't type anything
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