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Posted on 02-26-15 05:15:16 PM Link | Quote
NPR article here, but I'll paste the text here just in case.

Originally posted by NPR
The Federal Communications Commission approved the policy known as net neutrality by a 3-2 vote at its Thursday meeting, with FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler saying the policy will ensure "that no one — whether government or corporate — should control free open access to the Internet."

The policy helps to decide an essential question about how the Internet works, requiring service providers to be a neutral gateway instead of handling different types of Internet traffic in different ways — and at different costs.

"Today is a red-letter day," Wheeler said later.

The dissenting votes came from Michael O'Rielly and Ajut Pai, Republicans who warned that the FCC was overstepping its authority and interfering in commerce to solve a problem that doesn't exist. They also complained that the measure's 300-plus pages weren't publicly released or openly debated.

The new policy would replace a prior version adopted in 2010 — but that was put on hold following a legal challenge by Verizon. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit ruled last year that the FCC did not have sufficient regulatory power over broadband.

After that ruling, the FCC looked at ways to reclassify broadband to gain broader regulatory powers. It will now treat Internet service providers as carriers under Title II of the Telecommunications Act, which regulates services as public utilities.

Update at 1:22 p.m. ET: Rules Will Apply To Mobile

"The landmark open Internet protections that we adopted today," Wheeler says, should reassure consumers, businesses and investors.

Speaking at a news conference after the vote, Wheeler says the new policy will "ban blocking, ban throttling, and ban paid-prioritization fast lanes," adding that "for the first time, open Internet rules will be fully applicable to mobile."

Update at 1 p.m. ET: FCC Adopts Net Neutrality

By a 3-2 vote, the FCC votes to adopt net neutrality rules to "protect the open Internet."

Update at 12:50 p.m. ET: Wheeler Draws Applause

Chairman Tom Wheeler is speaking, meaning a vote is looming.

"The action that we take today is an irrefutable reflection of the principle that no one — whether government or corporate — should control free open access to the Internet," FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler said, drawing applause and whoops of approval from some of those in attendance.

Update at 12:01 p.m. ET: A Dissenting Vote

Saying the FCC was seizing power in "a radical departure" from its earlier policies. Commissioner Ajut Pai, a Republican, spoke against the proposal. He accused the FCC of "turning its back on Internet freedom."

Pai said that the commissioners were backing the new measure for only one reason: "because President Obama told us to."

Seeing the new policy as an attempt to intrude on the Internet, Pai predicted higher costs for consumers and less innovation by businesses.

Update at 11:25 a.m. ET: 'Open Internet' Portion Has Begun

After dealing with another issue (of municipalities being able to control broadband service), the FCC has turned to the new proposal.

The proposal was introduced at today's meeting by Julie Veach, chief of the FCC's Wireline Competition Bureau, who said it "would set forth clear, sustainable, enforceable rules to preserve and protect the open Internet as a place for innovation and free expression."

She said the order "builds on the views of some 4 million Americans" who responded to a request for comments.

Guest speakers included Etsy CEO Chad Dickerson and writer and TV producer Veena Sud, whose show The Killing survived with the help of Netflix. A short video from Tim Berners-Lee was also shown.

Our original post continues:

Precise terms and details of the policy have not been made publicly available — a situation that prompted two Republican FCC commissioners to seek to postpone today's vote. That request was denied.

Summarizing "What You Need To Know" about today's vote, Eyder wrote for the Two-Way, "Without net neutrality rules, ISPs could theoretically take money from companies like Netflix or Amazon to speed up traffic to their sites."

Thursday's vote comes after Commissioners Michael O'Rielly and Ajut Pai asked that the FCC "immediately release the 332-page Internet regulation plan publicly and allow the American people a reasonable period of not less than 30 days to carefully study it."

That request was denied; we'll post the document here when it's available.


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Posted on 02-26-15 06:37:52 PM (last edited by shagia at 02-26-15 06:38:44 PM) Link | Quote

After that ruling, the FCC looked at ways to reclassify broadband to gain broader regulatory powers. It will now treat Internet service providers as carriers under Title II of the Telecommunications Act, which regulates services as public utilities.




god bless you, FCC

related, Verizon responded with a post in morse code basically saying that the Title II regulations is a loss for investors, 'innovation' and consumers. Dodgy, knowing that Verizon has some poor claims they've made in the past...lol

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Posted on 02-26-15 08:47:20 PM Link | Quote
here's the delicious Verizon salt you mentioned

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Posted on 02-27-15 12:18:58 AM Link | Quote
Claiming it'll block innovation?

Since when has slowing things down been innovative? www

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Posted on 02-27-15 12:25:02 AM Link | Quote
a tiered internet service catered just for you

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Posted on 02-27-15 02:21:18 AM Link | Quote
Verizon was put in that Scooby Doo villain position

they would've gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling internet users

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Posted on 03-01-15 12:21:52 AM Link | Quote

It's funny; Verizon couldn't exist without the provisions in so-called "archaic" legislation.

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Posted on 03-01-15 10:10:39 AM (last edited by shagia at 03-01-15 10:12:44 AM) Link | Quote
Random thought, I've noticed that some people (mostly those who identify as 'republican') are against this move done by the FCC because it managed to get Government involved, and those specific people think that Government shouldn't have any say on what can happen and what can't happen with the internet, which made me think, yeah, it kinda makes sense I guess seeing how bills like SOPA and PIPA existed.

I still feel that reclassifying providers as Type II communicators was the best thing possible to keep companies like Comcast and etc to stop the suspicious acts like throttling certain sites (If I'm not wrong, didn't they throttle bandwidth to Netflix and made them pay for the bandwidth?), but I can't help but to relate with the worries of Government possibly bringing out another SOPA / PIPA after this happened, so at this moment I feel kinda neutral even though I'm glad this happened, I guess.

Outside of SOPA / PIPA related worries, people against this are just..........people....hahaha

What makes me wonder though is why specific companies like Comcast, Verizon and AT&T continues to play face and claims that this change harbors 'innovation' while the internet in the US is behind compared to other populated continents like Europe (especially after seeing how this is basically the same thing Europe has done years ago) and East Asia? I can't imagine infrastructure being all too different compared to East Asia and Europe in terms of the internet, what's holding the US back?

Speaking of Comcast, here's some stuff about them being bitter but more than Verizon at this point seeing how they're throwing legal threats. I wish they would put the kind of care they have here into their customer service...

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Posted on 03-01-15 02:44:08 PM Link | Quote
FYI, Republicans are against ANYTHING giving the government more power. Ironic since they themselves are a part of it.

Well, they're against anything that dem libberals are for.

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Posted on 03-02-15 02:10:43 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Gabu
FYI, Republicans are against ANYTHING giving the government more power. Ironic since they themselves are a part of it.

Well, they're against anything that dem libberals are for.


Yeah, I think I kinda forgot that Republicans are against anything related to giving government power in that post I made..

the whole "obama / liberals are supporting it so I shouldn't" and vice versa mentality is ridiculous IMO, it does tend to worry me sometimes lol

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Posted on 03-07-15 04:26:48 PM Link | Quote
Yeah, one of the people at my work (note: not a computer person) walked in the day after the decision and said "Well, say good bye to the internet. The government controls it now." He then went on about how this means the government was going to begin censoring everything and blocking torrents.


Is that really what people are being told? Fearmongering sucks.

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