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Posted on 05-10-14 09:24:36 PM Link | Quote
Can somebody find beta elements and secrets in this game? The Wii u is hackable, so could you? Thanks.
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Posted on 05-11-14 02:46:01 AM Link | Quote
Uhh, not to burst your bubble but just because the WiiU is hackable doesn't mean that we know how to crack open into WiiU ISOs. If that were the case then people here would have ripped apart the game already. We can barely get into the ROM for Super Mario 3D Land. Perhaps I am really in the dark and there has been progress in hacking into WiiU ISOs.

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Posted on 05-11-14 09:42:17 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Cuber456
If that were the case then people here would have ripped apart the game already.

Quoted for emphasis.

The Mario franchise is so disgustingly popular that its games are pretty much guaranteed to be cracked open as soon as the tools/technology are available.

Also, please stop calling them "beta elements."

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Posted on 05-11-14 11:18:11 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Cuber456
Uhh, not to burst your bubble but just because the WiiU is hackable doesn't mean that we know how to crack open into WiiU ISOs. If that were the case then people here would have ripped apart the game already. We can barely get into the ROM for Super Mario 3D Land. Perhaps I am really in the dark and there has been progress in hacking into WiiU ISOs.


Oh, oops. I didn't know that there's a whole other thing that needs to be possible. I figured just hackable worked.
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Posted on 05-11-14 11:18:59 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by BMF54123
Originally posted by Cuber456
If that were the case then people here would have ripped apart the game already.

Quoted for emphasis.

The Mario franchise is so disgustingly popular that its games are pretty much guaranteed to be cracked open as soon as the tools/technology are available.

Also, please stop calling them "beta elements."


Than what else can I call them? The only word is beta elements.
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Posted on 05-11-14 04:17:03 PM (last edited by omega59 at 05-11-14 04:18:35 PM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by Wintermelon43
Than what else can I call them? The only word is beta elements.

Beta is only one, late stage in game development. Prototype is a much better word for what you're trying to say. Anyway, I don't think anyone's gotten into the ISOs yet. Somebody has barely got to Ocarina of Time 3D's content, if you look at the "3DS Games" thread. It might take longer for any WiiU game to be opened, if that is any indication of how long it should take.
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Posted on 05-11-14 09:45:47 PM Link | Quote
Just because the Wii U is hackable doesn't mean it's hacked. Only the vWii mode was hacked, all of the Wii U stuff can be hacked but nobody seems to be interested. In addition to dumping the Wii U isos (which nobody has done yet), you have to crack the encryption and find out the filesystem format, and even then it's very difficult to get data out without emulation, which will take years.
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Posted on 05-12-14 08:34:21 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by omega59
Originally posted by Wintermelon43
Than what else can I call them? The only word is beta elements.

Beta is only one, late stage in game development. Prototype is a much better word for what you're trying to say.

I think the more charitable term is unused, as even prototype invests a certain context that might not be actual. For example, we can find unused smiley faces in some Capcom games--this doesn't mean it's prototypical or beta or whatever you want elements. It's more likely it's just filler/testing stuff, but the most neutral way to describe them is unused. Otherwise you start bestowing importance that might not actually be there in these files.
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