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Posted on 04-17-14 06:16:49 PM (last edited by Stilgar at 04-17-14 06:17:28 PM) Link | Quote
Upon looking at the text dump for RBY, there are a couple of lines that seem to be unused in the game:


"SILPH's manager
is hiding in the
SAFARI ZONE."


The line seems to be located together with the dialogues belonging to the guy always sitting in the left couch of the Pokécenter, but none of them say this line. Also there is not a Silph Manager in the Safari Zone, there is a Hidden House with Surf, but it is not related to Silph in any way plot-wise, I am sure, included the guy inside of it.
This seems to be a leftover line when the plot was different and there was an evil Silph's Chief (with the Trainer Class too). Also the House has some machinery inside, without no apparent reason, this maybe also hints at a previous Silph connection.

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"Looked into the
binoculars.

It's a beautiful
view!"

This is located in the "Gate Houses with the binoculars" dialogues. I checked all of them and none of them show this text, also there are 10 binoculars in the game, but this is the 11th time it's mentioned in the dump. Probably it's a leftover one with a different text.



It seems to be the only way to make this dialogue appear, so you have to be on the table with the WTW code on. It looks similar to the "Ops, wrong side" dialogue if you check your TV from the side.

On an unrelated note, in the Weird Discoveries thread I posted some pictures of hidden stuff in Pokémon Crystal, a couple of days ago they have been also documented on a video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX-MnRXOwf4
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Posted on 04-20-14 02:49:46 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Stilgar
"Looked into the
binoculars.

It's a beautiful
view!"

This is located in the "Gate Houses with the binoculars" dialogues. I checked all of them and none of them show this text, also there are 10 binoculars in the game, but this is the 11th time it's mentioned in the dump. Probably it's a leftover one with a different text.

This one is used in Route 11 after Snorlax has been fought.

        ld a, [$d7d8]

        bit 7, a ; fought snorlax?

        ld hl, BinocularsSnorlaxText ; “A big POKéMON is asleep on a road!”

        jr z, .print

        ld hl, BinocularsNoSnorlaxText ; “It”s a beautiful view!”

.print

        call PrintText


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Posted on 04-24-14 07:27:32 AM (last edited by Torchickens at 04-24-14 12:11:23 PM) Link | Quote
In Japanese Red/Green/Blue, but not Yellow, pressing A on the bottom-left chairs in rest houses 2, 3 and 4 (the prize house doesn't count) brings up three hidden texts. They remain in the English versions, translated, including Yellow, but you can no longer press A on the chairs to see them, possibly leaving them unused.

The fact that you have to press A on a chair with no one on is strange, and these messages don't fit in with the situation (i.e. nothing like 'it's a chair'). To me, it gives the impression that maybe deleted NPCs used to say these texts before.

The messages are:

"ぼくも ポケモンとり したいなー" (rest house 2)
"はしゃぎすぎて つかれちゃった……" (rest house 3)
"シルフのチーフが サファリゾーンの
どこかに かくれてるんだって!" (rest house 4)


Thanks to Tomato (Clyde Mandelin), here are literal translations of the original Japanese versions. He told me not to take them as definitive as he doesn't know the context:


"I wish I could catch Pokemon too!"
"I'm tired out from having so much fun/being so excited/getting too carried away."
"I heard that a/the Silph Chief is hiding somewhere in the Safari Zone!"


The official translations, in the same order (rest house 2, then 3, then 4) are:

I wish I could
catch POKéMON.


I'm tired from
all the fun...


SILPH's manager
is hiding in the
SAFARI ZONE.


シルフのチーフ (Silph Chief) is the Japanese name of the unused Chief Trainer class.
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Posted on 04-25-14 04:39:43 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Torchickens
The fact that you have to press A on a chair with no one on is strange, and these messages don't fit in with the situation (i.e. nothing like 'it's a chair'). To me, it gives the impression that maybe deleted NPCs used to say these texts before.

Glitterberri, padz and I figured this out on IRC about a year ago, but it never got posted anywhere (one of the problems with IRC). You know the guy who sits on couches in Pokémon Centers?

He’s not a normal person, but part of the tileset:

His text is implemented as a hidden object, the same mechanism as Itemfinder items and gym statues. The unused text in rest houses is also implemented as a hidden object, so it was probably a man on a couch (or something similar) in a previous version of the tileset.

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Posted on 04-25-14 01:25:17 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by IIMarckus
His text is implemented as a hidden object, the same mechanism as Itemfinder items and gym statues. The unused text in rest houses is also implemented as a hidden object, so it was probably a man on a couch (or something similar) in a previous version of the tileset.

That bodes well with my "Safari Zone rest houses were once Pokecenters" find.
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Posted on 05-06-14 10:54:06 AM (last edited by Torchickens at 05-07-14 01:11:56 PM) Link | Quote
In Red/Green, pressing A on a certain position in the Seafoam Islands' right island entrance causes an empty text box to appear then immediately close itself. In Japanese Blue a blank text box appears too but in this case the music stops and the game hangs; you can't close the box. Itemfinder does not detect an item here.

The position is the tile Red is looking at here:



In Pocket Monsters Pikachu and the English localizations you can no longer get a text box to appear in this position.

Why does this happen?

Here's the webpage that taught me this glitch.


Edit: There's not just one tile like this, in the other Seafoam Islands entrance there's one here that causes glitchier effects:



See also, this.

I would guess they were signs that were 'removed'. Maybe they were removed since there is already a sign outside each cave. After a cursory Google search I found this documentation of the two.
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