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Posted on 03-30-14 11:06:10 PM Link | Quote
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQnlsmbngdE

I recently discovered this video of a BS F-Zero Grand Prix 2 stream ripped from nicovideo.jp. As you can see, there are two tracks I have never seen before, "Forest" and "Forest II". According to the description, an undumped Queen League exists in BS F-Zero Grand Prix 2 (which only had an Ace League, with Mute City V, Big Blue II, Silence II, Sandstorm and Sandstorm II) and upon searching on the net apparently another track called "Metal Fort" exists, according to comments about the stream, but no images or videos can be found about that.
The ROMs of this game that can be found around only have the Ace League, but could this mean that unused data exist in the ROM, or in the original cart itself?

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I have searched more and the mystery seems to be solved, I didn't know carts didn't exist for the Satellaview, but they were downloadable content. Along with the BS version of F-Zero (the usual tracks but playable with different cars) and the "sequel" (the one with the Ace League), some two other versions divided in weekly broadcasts exist: one is divided between week 1 and 4 have Knight, Queen, King and Ace League and have tracks from both the first F-Zero and the sequel, but in a different order. Dumped ROMs of these four leagues can be found separately (use the emulator SNESGT to play them: these games have a count-down system of choosing the cars and going forward in the menus, other emulators had problems in executing the count-down correctly, I noticed).
The second version is the one showed in the video and it belongs to the "sequel" of the first four broadcasts. The one in the video is the first week, the second was once uploaded on nicovideo.jp but sadly the videos got deleted. Probably this second week had the "Metal Fort" tracks.
Sadly, these two weeks can't be found anywhere yet since nobody dumped them as ROMs, I have seen lists of people trying to search for undumped Satellaview material but I suppose those flash carts with this content are very hard to find since they are old and Japan-limited and the language barrier is a problem, otherwise somebody fluent could see if some Japanese people still have those broadcasts and ask for a dump.
So this is not exactly unused material, but simply stuff that has not been dumped yet, If someone is interested in searching for this material it would be great, though.
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Posted on 03-31-14 12:57:25 AM Link | Quote
Everything that has been found about the BS-X: http://superfamicom.org/blog/
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Posted on 03-31-14 02:33:28 AM (last edited by Stilgar at 03-31-14 02:35:20 AM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by ReyVGM
Everything that has been found about the BS-X: http://superfamicom.org/blog/


Yeah I visited this website and contacted its owner too and it is confirmed that no progress has been done in finding these undumped broadcasts yet, sadly. The only way could be trying to contact who uploaded those videos on nicovideo.jp in the beginning, or asking on some Japanese websites, but the thing seems so obscure that I'm afraid it'd be very difficult and also the account of the uploader seems to have been inactive for a long time.
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Posted on 04-02-14 08:10:16 PM Link | Quote
I know nicovideo uploads were commonly VHS recordings from actual broadcasts... but this lacks the artifacts one would expect in such a recording. So maybe it is privately dumped and running in an emulator.
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Posted on 04-04-14 01:28:40 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by KingMike
I know nicovideo uploads were commonly VHS recordings from actual broadcasts... but this lacks the artifacts one would expect in such a recording. So maybe it is privately dumped and running in an emulator.


Probably, but the problem is to find someone in Japan who has dumped them and since it's quite rare stuff there's the risk that this material could go lost forever, which personally is a bit of a shame since the first F-Zero is one of my favorite games and I was almost shocked to discover that never seen before stages actually exist.
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Posted on 04-09-14 03:58:07 PM Link | Quote
There's actually 4 F-Zero hacks on romhacking.net if you guys want new tracks in your F-Zero. I submitted them myself and they are fun and weird. Some of them you need a infinite Turbos code tho cause it's impossible to pull off some jumps on the first time around the track, before you get a turbo.

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Posted on 04-09-14 04:05:33 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by MathUser
There's actually 4 F-Zero hacks on romhacking.net if you guys want new tracks in your F-Zero. I submitted them myself and they are fun and weird. Some of them you need a infinite Turbos code tho cause it's impossible to pull off some jumps on the first time around the track, before you get a turbo.

This has absolutely nothing to do with TCRF, thanks

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Posted on 04-10-14 11:32:00 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by MathUser
There's actually 4 F-Zero hacks on romhacking.net if you guys want new tracks in your F-Zero. I submitted them myself and they are fun and weird. Some of them you need a infinite Turbos code tho cause it's impossible to pull off some jumps on the first time around the track, before you get a turbo.


The point is we are looking for OFFICIAL tracks.
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Posted on 04-13-14 10:27:45 AM Link | Quote
Yes, also they are just level redesigns of previous existing levels, these unused tracks, other than being official, also have totally new backgrounds and names, probably music too.
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Posted on 04-29-14 07:22:07 PM Link | Quote
I think the music was streamed cd's so it probably didn't have new SNES music written for it.

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