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Posted on 10-28-13 04:18:01 PM (last edited by Kak64 at 10-28-13 04:18:54 PM) Link | Quote
A spinoff of "What's your OS(es)?" thread.

What was the worst OS you have ever used (VMs may be included too, as long as you say it's a VM) ?

Mine wasn't Windows 8 (yuck), but an infamously broken Windows 98 standalone I had as my main desktop way back in 2004 (when having a computer for me was not much important). Now that I think back about it, the hard disk may have been damaged or so.

To start it up, I had to push the power button, let it BSOD after loading WIN.COM, restart it, and only then Windows would start up. Not that it was useful though. Launching any program (except explorer.exe) would crash the computer (and fall victim of the slow startup), and the only time I have ever managed to start something else was THE day I somehow started Paint... only for it to use a broken font. It worked, at least.
The MS-DOS Prompt worked, though there wasn't much to do with it.

Trashed and replaced with a XP computer one month later, that would survive until the night of the 2nd August 2010.
What happened? After returning from a summer holiday in Sardinia, I happily started my computer, and as first thing I wanted to play NES Bubble Bobble... only to have FCEUX accidentaly my motherboard... argh I'm going offtopic...

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I think it was Windows XP.

Haha, I’m pulling your leg. It’s not Windows XP.

It actually might be something more like Elive Linux, which at the time was pretty awful. It was super slow and laggy and Enlightenment was probably the worst thing ever back then. Plus, you had to “donate” like five bucks to get in and this was my first Linux distro so I was like, “Hey, man, I thought this was supposed to be, like, free?” And there was a crazy paranoid message saying that you shouldn’t download this using a Windows computer because of a fear of Microsoft cracking down on Linux distros and blocking access. I should have known that this was foreshadowing what I’d later discover was central to parts of the fervently-Linux Linux community but I didn’t know any better.

But, anyway, it’s been like, what, six years now? The site’s definitely improved so maybe the OS has, too.

Notable mentions: the now defunct, OpenSolaris; openSUSE.

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OSX. :I

okay, maybe that's a bit unfair, they run OSX in the music studio in school and I hate it. But that may have something to do with not finding shit and the window interaction does not happen in ways I want it too.

So I suppose I'll say windows 8 and/or vista, both of those are pretty shit.

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Originally posted by Lunaria
OSX. :I

okay, maybe that's a bit unfair, they run OSX in the music studio in school and I hate it. But that may have something to do with not finding shit and the window interaction does not happen in ways I want it too.

So I suppose I'll say windows 8 and/or vista, both of those are pretty shit.


Heh, for me Vista wasn't that bad... as long as you had back in the day over 1GB of RAM.

The ever infamous budget machines never did and the rest is history...

...on Windows 8(.1) you can go on. It's a freaking Interface problem, not a RAM problem, unlike Vista. It honestly feels like I'm inside a glass couple. :/ (yes, I've tried it in a VM)

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Posted on 10-28-13 09:07:12 PM Link | Quote
That OS used on the old iMac g1,2,3's. Was that OSX? Because boy that version was shit if it was.

In terms of Linux, Ubuntu. Yay changing UI behaviours at random after updates \o/

And Windows, oh windows. I found 8 isn't bad (but only if you actually use it on a tablet or mobile device [!=laptop, mind you]), but back in time a fair bit. Windows Millenium Edition. Ahh, ME was a good idea which later some of its user-tailoring code was cleaned up for XP, but it was horrible in a multi-user environment itself (ME that is, XP was great at that).

So pretty much; the OS on iMac g1,2,3; Ubuntu; and Windows ME.



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Having used OSes from the three major groups, I'm going to have to go with OSX (10.4-6). A number of you probably remember me complaining about it years ago when I was stuck using it while at college. A number of my complaints are center around the user interface. Some of the design choices seem like they are only there either for the sake of tradition, or so that they show off how "different" they are. Whose idea was it to keep the cursor as black? One of the things I learned in my first year of my digital media degree is that black is the exact opposite of what catches people's eyes. And why make the cursor start in the top left corner of the screen upon booting up, on top of the also-black icon? Just to have it on top of the Apple logo? People start by looking at the middle of the screen. You wouldn't believe how many times I lost track of my cursor. In fact, playing "where's the cursor" while moving my mouse in small rapid circles is how most of my mornings started. Combine that with the gratuitous amount of eye candy (did you know they have a button for greatly slowing down special effects like window minimizing?) and other poor interface choices (Enter renames files, but opening a file requires either both hands or an uncomfortable hand-split) and you get the impression that the whole user interface was designed by graphic artists rather than anyone with much usability design experience. Maybe that's why they keep telling people that Macs are for artists...


Special mention goes to Windows 8. I have not actually used it myself, but watching one of my best friends attempt to show us a collection photos in it was painful to watch.


@Ubuntu: I've only been using it for a little over a year in my work environment, so overall it has been pretty stable and unchanging. And then last week, I installed Wine and suddenly all of Java's fonts became bold and changed. :specialed:

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Windows 98. It was the crashiest, buggiest thing ever. All the applications had illegal exceptions and had to be shut down. The computer required shorting out the plug on the back to start. It crashes about ~40 minutes into being on, every time--even years later.

Windows 8 is a close second. It still works like Windows 7... only now every action I take has become twice as convoluted and half as comprehensible. The touch features suck and the app side needs to be deleted entirely. It's pretty goddamn useless.

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Windows 7.

Wait, don't lynch me yet.

I'm really only counting OSes I've used for a significant amount of time, and on hardware that could actually support the things. (Windows 3.1 on my 386 was DOGSHIT, but let's be fair - I'm rather sure that machine wasn't up to spec, especially in RAM.)

That said, I've had more issues with Windows 7 than any other OS. Spontaneous explosions in 2010, general performance diving off a cliff compared to XP at times (To give 7 the benefit of the doubt, however, software DOES grow more intensive over the years. Try XP on 256MB these days. It was fine back in the day, probably, but nowadays it'd be hell.), and the random weird shit.

Oh, the random weird shit and breakage.

Press Enter? Here's Windows Mobility Center for you! (I think this got fixed in SP1.)
Backspace is going to take me between the same two folders in a pattern I haven't quite figured out yet! (I know it happens when I hit the "base" folder the Explorer window spawned with, but sometimes it does it when I'm NOT at that point.)
Wireless? Hahahahahaha no, I'm going to entirely stop acknowledging wireless or PRETEND I'm connected and just display a warning sign and not work anyway. A suspend fixes this, but it's still fucking grating to the point where, despite irssi becoming my main client, I keep an mIRC instance open on any laptops just so I have audio cues as to when the connection has dropped. (Hasn't happened yet since I started this, though.)

That being said, though, it's a little relieving that 7's the worst I can say I've used. Take away the stupid shit and it really isn't that bad, and a marked improvement over XP in some ways. (I'm going to miss XP for the rest of my life, though. Watch.)

Consolation prize goes to plain Fedora, though - really, you don't let me sudo with my account created in the installer? This was before I really had a grasp on Linux to any extent beyond knowing how to customize its look and install a little software. (By now I could fix this issue easily, most likely.)

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Posted on 10-29-13 12:18:23 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Bloodstar
and a marked improvement over XP in some ways.

There are some really nice user interface changes in 7 that I wish XP could have. Then I was surprised to find out that the one I liked the most (snap to full/half by dragging to edges) has been in Ubuntu for years.

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Posted on 10-29-13 12:54:23 AM Link | Quote
I've used a bunch of operating systems. I don't think any of them have been objectively bad...

...With that said, OS X is probably the most irritating OS I've used.

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The worst OS I used?

I guess that'd be Windows XP SP1.

Mostly for the fact that it had gaping holes in security that allowed anyone on-line to hack into the system.

Also because the most well-known viruses using these holes tended to crash system processes, resulting in "Your computer will shut down in 60 seconds" messages and broken internet connections (which means you can't just shutdown -a and get the updates).

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Some version of OSX or another. Not because it was bad, but because it was just.. stupidly difficult to find anything, let alone get anything done.

Win8 is a close second for obvious reasons. Fuck Metro.

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Windows ME. Oh my fucking god, Windows ME.

Outside of that, I haven't used a bad OS, just ones that I'm not that fond of. I never used 8, but 8.1 seems really nice. My dad has it on his laptop and it's quite good. It took me a bit to figure out where everything was and how to access stuff, but it's intuitive, for the most part.

For Linux, I haven't used many. It was pretty much Kubuntu and Natty Narwhal, neither of which were installed for very long. Not because I hate Linux, just because I prefer Windows.

OS X, eh. Not bad, but it's been such a long time since I last used it.

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Posted on 10-30-13 12:40:31 AM (last edited by DarkSpacer at 10-30-13 12:42:00 AM) Link | Quote
WXP...except I don't really remember it, so instead I'll say Windows 7.

Even though I'm using 7 RIGHT NOW and it hasn't actually crashed recently (even though it has way more than 1000 registry errors, I sometimes leave it on for more than 3 days, and I have a shit ton of stuff running on it at almost all times)...it's slow. Not unusable, but slow. Also explorer.exe restarts randomly (but that very rarely happens).

I want a Mac, even more so now that 10.9 Mavericks has some awesome techniques to speed up the system and keep it running fast, but I can't keep money because wants.

I swear I have no idea why Microsoft's not taking advantage of Mac technologies. They could EASILY rip off the Mac.

Although logically maybe it's why Microsoft's stuff is so bad...Apple keeps patenting everything. You are SO cute, you patent-er, Apple! < /sarcasm >

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Windows ME. Oh my fucking god, Windows ME.
This was my first 32-bit OS. Oh god. The BSODs. It literally just randomly crashed and refused to boot anymore. That was great.

Also, I tried to install Arch once. The installer crashed every time. I tried to ask for help on their official forum. It had this CAPTCHA thing that asked a question like "what is the name of this OS" - but it wouldn't accept "Arch", it had to be "Arch Linux" exactly. Their response was that that should have been completely obvious and I should fix the installer myself. What a joke.

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Originally posted by Metal_Man88
Windows 98. It was the crashiest, buggiest thing ever.


Our family's first computer, our NEC Windows 95... omfg, had to be my worst OS of all time. From approximately 1996 to 2004, we regularly used this computer, and being relative young, I did not care about the problems it had. In retrospect, however...

This thing would crash all the time (with illegal exceptions and a Windows 3.1-like BSOD) and running CDs would kill the PC 90% of the time (especially with my favorite game, Rayman, in which the computer did not even have the hardware/software to play the sfx ). Also, opening My Computer froze the computer, and attempting to access the D:\ CD-ROM drive would also freeze it most of the time. We eventually had to put a shortcut to C:\ on the desktop to use the computer! (The disc drive was CD-ROM only; it could not burn CD-R nor CD-RWs, meaning all data transfers was done by using millions of 1.4MB 3.5" Floppy disks. Such bad memories...) Due to mechanical issues in its later years, the CD Drive barely even opened its tray, without using a kitchen knife to initially get it to open. The HDD has had to get reformatted several times too, due to boot problems.

Somewhat off-topic, I recently discovered, that for all of these years, there was a USB 1.1 port on the back of the PC. *Tamkis bangs head against wall, at all of the bad experiences in external data management that could have been avoided.* We still have this dinosaur kept in my brother's room, and someday, I may backup all of the data on a 2GB USB stick, as well as maybe program microcontrollers and make N64 homebrew with GSUpload, using the rare serial and parallel ports on it. Because my laptop lacks voltage, built-in serial and parallel ports, and an ExpressCard slot, and because Serial/Parallel to USB cables do not work ...
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Windows 8 ranks in 2nd, in worst OSes. I watched a friend in a dorm upstairs use his W8 desktop, and ouch, I was really turned off by it (pun intended).

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It's weird, but in the years I had a computer with Windows 98, I never once had a BSOD or big crash. Or any sort of problem, really.


If anything, Windows XP has given me more trouble than anything, but I chalk that up to the computer being 10 years old and going senile.

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Windows 98 (SE) remains, to this day, the only OS where I have encountered a Bluescreen that was recoverable. In fact, I encountered several!

There is nothing more hilarious than a bluescreen that literally tells you "do not do that again", and then lets you return to windows.

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