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Posted on 09-03-13 05:33:20 PM Link | Quote
Has any virtualization software ever crashed your computer?


One day, while testing some random stuff (the dialog editor) on Windows 1.03 in Virtual PC 2007, Windows 1.03 crashed with colored stripes like this.
Then the computer rebooted and "Your PC has recovered from a serious error".
Pressing BACKSPACE on the keyboard is a serious error? Really?
I was speechless.

The odd thing is that it happens only on my notebook. If I try the same on my desktop thankfully it doesn't happen.

The quality of VPC at its finest.
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Posted on 09-04-13 03:58:22 AM Link | Quote
It sounds like you need Service Pack 1:
Originally posted by Kak64
Some operating systems crash when they run in the virtual machine. When this happens, the host operating system may crash. This problem occurs when the guest operating system allocates the system memory in such a way that the virtual machine monitor component of virtual PC cannot find memory for its internal data structures. Under such circumstances, virtual machine monitor returns a fatal error exception to the guest operating system and prevents the crash on the host operating system.
The actual cause of the crash is probably hardware-dependent. If you grab the minidump, I could tell you exactly where it crashed, and give some suggestions as to why.


To answer your question: no, I've never had virtualization software crash my PC. I have had VirtualBox mess up my network, but it only affected IPv6 which I rarely use. I ended up just removing network support, since I didn't need it in my virtual machine.

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Posted on 09-04-13 01:31:54 PM (last edited by Kak64 at 09-04-13 02:01:24 PM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by Joe
It sounds like you need Service Pack 1:
Originally posted by Kak64
Some operating systems crash when they run in the virtual machine. When this happens, the host operating system may crash. This problem occurs when the guest operating system allocates the system memory in such a way that the virtual machine monitor component of virtual PC cannot find memory for its internal data structures. Under such circumstances, virtual machine monitor returns a fatal error exception to the guest operating system and prevents the crash on the host operating system.
The actual cause of the crash is probably hardware-dependent. If you grab the minidump, I could tell you exactly where it crashed, and give some suggestions as to why.


To answer your question: no, I've never had virtualization software crash my PC. I have had VirtualBox mess up my network, but it only affected IPv6 which I rarely use. I ended up just removing network support, since I didn't need it in my virtual machine.


Ok, I will try to install the SP1 and post the results when done.

On the first place VPC isn't tweaked for Windows 1.03 anyway, so I really can't complain.

EDIT

It worked. It doesn't crash by pressing backspace anymore, and when it crashes it returns to the command prompt.
That is strange, I thought I had already installed that patch, but I realized I didn't. Now it is.

Thanks for helping!
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Posted on 09-11-13 06:13:19 AM Link | Quote
I once crashed my computer spectacularly by trying to use two VM products at the same time. Well, not actually run two things at once. I had Virtualbox running a VM, and I right clicked on a stopped Virtual PC VM to check its settings, and then instant BSOD. Last time I ever mixed and matched VM products on the same host operating system again.
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