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| Jul - Computers and Technology - Get a Mac (?) |
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Eon Hammer Brother MLB Level: 68     Posts: 201/1085 EXP: 2626331 For next: 102469 Since: 07-22-07 Since last post: 310 days Last activity: 130 days
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chungy Member Level: 31 Posts: 106/174 EXP: 168462 For next: 16901 Since: 08-04-07 Since last post: 14.1 years Last activity: 13.9 years
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Originally posted by Xkeeper Proprietary hardware isn't exactly known for its open documentation (oh wait--that would no longer make it proprietary!). Originally posted by Xkeeper Yeah, if your experience is from 1998 where Linux took way more than 10 minutes to install (and way more effort than clicking some buttons), and Mac OS 9 was truly made for idiots. There is no valid claim on either operating system from today. Originally posted by Xkeeper Before trolling against other operating systems, you might want to update your facts. Thank you. |
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Hiryuu Level: 207 Posts: 1720/14435 EXP: 127636316 For next: 2147838 Since: 07-06-07 Since last post: 11.8 years Last activity: 11.7 years
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Rena I had one (1) message in Discord deleted and proceeded to make a huge, huge mess about how it was a violation of free speech and how moderators are supposed to be spam janitors and nobody should have the right to tell me not to talk about school shootings Level: 135 Posts: 1816/5390 EXP: 29078815 For next: 256190 Since: 07-22-07 Pronouns: he/him/whatever From: RSP Segment 6 Since last post: 343 days Last activity: 343 days
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Jul - Post #1816 - 12-14-07 09:25:47pm The last point is valid, at least. You don't just install a new OS without ensuring it works. For example, Ubuntu refused to boot on my desktop last I tried.
Also, Ran posted while I was typing. 
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chungy Member Level: 31 Posts: 107/174 EXP: 168462 For next: 16901 Since: 08-04-07 Since last post: 14.1 years Last activity: 13.9 years
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Originally posted by HyperHacker One computer doesn't mean that it is broken for everybody. Do you really think a million Ubuntu users have the operating system because it won't work on their systems? I've told you before to be more careful on what you buy. Contrary to popular belief, it is not difficult to buy open and supported hardware, I've done it for a very long time. Hell, these days, it's getting increasingly harder to build a computer with proprietary hardware. The main thing is to buy wireless cards from Taiwain (more specifically, try to buy from Taiwainese companies, not importing  ), and avoid NVIDIA/ATI for video cards (last one might not be easy if you're a heavy gamer). |
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| XP rocks, Macs suck, Linux doesn't work. I think the next step is deciding between Inspiron or XPS. ____________________ =================== [Posted by DSMagnum] |
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Rena I had one (1) message in Discord deleted and proceeded to make a huge, huge mess about how it was a violation of free speech and how moderators are supposed to be spam janitors and nobody should have the right to tell me not to talk about school shootings Level: 135 Posts: 1819/5390 EXP: 29078815 For next: 256190 Since: 07-22-07 Pronouns: he/him/whatever From: RSP Segment 6 Since last post: 343 days Last activity: 343 days
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Jul - Post #1819 - 12-14-07 09:50:48pm Originally posted by chungyNo, but you'd be pretty dumb to install an OS on your computer without ensuring it works on that computer.Originally posted by HyperHacker ____________________ |
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Q 風のノータム Level: 105  Posts: 53/2986 EXP: 11977485 For next: 284775 Since: 08-03-07 Pronouns: she/her From: Nowhere Since last post: 51 days Last activity: 1 day
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Originally posted by DSMagnum I guess this explains why 90% of my computer problems are when I'm using XP, and 9% of them are when I'm using using my old Amiga. (I rarely even have computer problems, though )
Also, before you say what rocks and what sucks, please tell us why you think so. |
Black Lord Magic Emperor Level: 40  Posts: 19/314 EXP: 408512 For next: 32797 Since: 08-01-07 From: Nebraska Since last post: 11.3 years Last activity: 9.7 years
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Originally posted by DSMagnum Wow, if this isn't flamebait I don't know what is.
How about you actually sit down and use an operating system for > 5 minutes before you make a judgement on the said operating system, each operating system has it's benefits and each has it's disadvantages... I'm not a big fan of Windows, but I'm far from saying it sucks... because it definitely has its advantages (gaming comes to mind, as well multimedia (although linux is coming close)). ____________________  |
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| Guys? I've used a Mac before. LCIII, very classic. Apparently still runs.
I ran a lot of Linux distros to try it out. On a scratchmonkey provided by my dad, I couldn't get sound or internet. On my laptop, I couldn't boot up without disabling PCMCIA, didn't get sound and didn't -try- internet. The latest Ubuntu actually boots without disabling PCMCIA, has sound and when I find my live CD I'm gonna try going online with it (hi hydra!) So there. ____________________ =================== [Posted by Kawa] |
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Kas Member Level: 28 Posts: 41/145 EXP: 128234 For next: 3104 Since: 07-28-07 From: Sheffield, UK Since last post: 1.2 years Last activity: 1.2 years
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| Macbook:
- Cheapest Mac Laptop, cheapest model is fairly (but not awesomely) priced - Comes complete with hardware and software that will work harmoniously together. No need to worry about drivers, or WiFi. - Mac Laptops have very good battery life. They also have very good power-management and hibernation features. - 13 inches and robust design make it very portable and easy to carry around. - Operating system on par with linux distributions for stability and reliability. Unsurpassed for usability. - Excelent support for dual-booting Windows, and very good software available for virtualisation (VMWare Fusion and Parallels). You don't have to say goodbye to Windows, yet you don't have to bend over for it either. Which is the best way to keep your relationship with MS
- Have to upgrade to MacBook Pro for larger screen or any decent graphics hardware 
- Black paint on your MacBook costs stupid. But it will make you look like you have more money than sense. That can be good or bad, depending on how much sense and money you have. - There's still plenty of freeware alternatives for your office software, emulation, web browsing, text editing, development needs. By all means, there are some fine laptops by other manufacturers, but if you want to put Ubuntu on a laptop, make sure you choose one with the most common, run o' the mill components if you want it to be completely hassle-free. I'm waiting until January to get a Macbook Pro, as I can afford the premium and i'd really enjoy the benefits that come with it. As I'm working with PHP, there's no MS software I need to work, either. One word of warning, before you buy Apple. Jaunary 15th is Macworld, and Apple is expected to refresh their product line. Notebooks and subnotebooks are hotly tipped to be announced / updates. Do not buy an Apple before Macworld if you can help it. |
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| To all those who replied to my post, let me explain some things.
1) Read all the thread and you'll realize I was just summing it up in a trollish manner. Apparently I won. 2) I'm using a Mac right now. I wouldn't if I thought they suck. 3) I actually don't have a PC or even an Intel Mac, but I use Windows a lot. I do like XP quite a bit, much more than I do Vista. However, I don't hate Vista. 4) I have no personal opinions towards Linux except for lack of software for what I use a computer for. Get a computer based on how much money you have and what you'll be using it for, not what other people have to say about why you shouldn't get a particular OS. If you really want a Mac and can afford one, get it. Then maybe you could install Linux and XP on there. If you can't, get something cheaper like an Acer or HP. ____________________ =================== [Posted by DSMagnum] |
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Tarale Catgirl C:\ DOS C:\ DOS RUN RUN DOS RUN Level: 89  Posts: 118/2030 EXP: 6720695 For next: 195206 Since: 07-23-07 Pronouns: she/her Since last post: 2.0 years Last activity: 1.6 years
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Skreeny Member I have a custom title. Level: 54  Posts: 157/636 EXP: 1172673 For next: 61197 Since: 09-15-07 Since last post: 9.3 years Last activity: 1.2 years
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Originally posted by KasUmm... Forgive me for sounding like an ass, but... what is that supposed to mean? I can get the drivers part, but... |
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chungy Member Level: 31 Posts: 111/174 EXP: 168462 For next: 16901 Since: 08-04-07 Since last post: 14.1 years Last activity: 13.9 years
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| Most American wireless card manufacturers tend to keep their hardware a secret... it makes it difficult to support such hardware in a free operating system (OpenBSD pretty much has the best support for wireless cards of all the free OSes, but it's not a likely system for your average desktop user). They do this to protect "trade secrets" and such nonsense. On the other hand, Taiwanese manufacturers pretty much need to publish open documentation in order to stay in the market; as this makes it trivial to support in free operating systems (such as Linux), they are fairly popular for these platforms.
Well Kas' point was that using Apple's hardware+software combo, you have none of the support issues you may run into while using Linux. Kind of a moot point since the hardware and software are provided by the same vendor; they better support their own hardware else they'll be dead. |
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Kas Member Level: 28 Posts: 42/145 EXP: 128234 For next: 3104 Since: 07-28-07 From: Sheffield, UK Since last post: 1.2 years Last activity: 1.2 years
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| Pretty much, WiFi (not sure if that's a term that's localised to Europe) in my experience has been the biggest problem when I've been running Ubuntu on a laptop. This mostly due to a lack of support from the hardware's manufacturer, the range of protocols used, and the poorly managed university wireless network. The Mac is wonderful in this respect, because hardware and software are indeed one big package. That's not really a moot argument though, it's still a heck of an advantage over other buying from other manufacturers, from a support perspective.
I did see a Mac fail to connect to our uni's network though, due to poor certificate and hotspot management. You will also suffer with support departments when running anything other than Windows too, because if anything goes wrong, they'll blame it on Linux / Mac OS. |
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neotransotaku Member wonders why OSX does not come with their version of MSPaint? Level: 53 Posts: 96/603 EXP: 1084817 For next: 72302 Since: 08-24-07 From: The Landmark @ One Market Since last post: 2.6 years Last activity: 42 days
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Originally posted by chungy Yeah, Apple is nice because there is only 1 hardware to support. If apple can't take care of that then there must be something wrong. Anyways, I say stick with the OS that has given you the least amount of trouble. I have stuck with windows because well, it hasn't pissed me off to the point other people in this thread have experienced. WinXP has done well for me and I am waiting for SP1 before using Vista (or until I have a need to reinstall windows). OSX is nice, very nice but it I don't like the idea of shelling out almost 2x the amount of money for a computer I could get for half the price and have equivalent functionality. Linux is good if you do not mind dealing with compatibility issues when the crop up. There are a lot of cool stuff you can do with linux if you are willing to wade through google to find your answer. Setting up linux requires a wired (not wireless) internet connection however. That is my two cents. |
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Black Lord Magic Emperor Level: 40 Posts: 23/314 EXP: 408512 For next: 32797 Since: 08-01-07 From: Nebraska Since last post: 11.3 years Last activity: 9.7 years
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Originally posted by neotransotaku Um... no. My laptop was set up without a wired internet connection, and it worked fine. Don't know where you got your info from, but it's far from the truth. ____________________ |
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neotransotaku Member wonders why OSX does not come with their version of MSPaint? Level: 53 Posts: 99/603 EXP: 1084817 For next: 72302 Since: 08-24-07 From: The Landmark @ One Market Since last post: 2.6 years Last activity: 42 days
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Originally posted by Black LordOriginally posted by neotransotaku Whoops, I meant to say you should have one available. In my experience, I always need to download something to get something set up, or to find information on why something isn't configured correctly and stuff. If the laptop is the only computer available, and wireless doesn't work after you installed linux, life sucks. |
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