Jul -- The Cutting Room Floor: Weird Discoveries

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Posted on 03-28-13 07:33:06 AM

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Slamhound, you are a bro beyond bros

Thanks for explaining a lot of these interesting features and things you've picked on. I almost want to start an empty page for the game and move all this to its talk page, just to provide a backup of your research in case something goes awry with this forum.

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Posted on 03-28-13 10:32:43 AM

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Originally posted by MUGEN-tan
From the TCRF article about Kirby Air Ride:

TEST can only be tested with the ENEMY REQ setting switched to OFF, suggesting that the map might attempt to load an enemy type that is no longer present in the game. If ENEMY REQ is set to ON when this stage loads, the game will crash.

This one made me curious. How does maps in Kirby Air Ride load enemies? Had anyone found that out already?

So I assume that nobody can help me there?

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Posted on 03-28-13 09:08:55 PM

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Originally posted by Slamhound
I might go through it's moveset later.

Just went through the moveset, and it was interesting to say the least.

The Talisman's moveset is identical to most basic straight swords in the right hand and the moveset is complete: R1, R2, backstep strike, F+R1 = Kick, F+R2 = Jumping attack. Switching to two hands brings an odd graphical glitch where your character briefly holds it in both hands for a second before lowering both arms to a rest, but otherwise has a complete 2H straight sword set. Equipping in the left hand just has two flavours of punching basic punching.

L1 shield blocking works too, but the real oddity is when you try to L2 shield parry: Nothing typically happens with a single tap, your character just stands there. Repeated presses of L2 will, very briefly, make your character assume the standard T-pose, and even further repeated pressings will create possibly the best damn hummingbird impression in a video game.

Guess what? It's utterly useless in combat. The only way you can actively hit an opponent with it is with a backstab. You can't shield parry, and swinging at an enemy will not result in any contact. Even if you do hit with a backstab, it lands for no damage.

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Posted on 04-01-13 07:56:34 PM

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So, uh, I see for April Fool's, TCRF is upside down. So I'm not gonna bother seeing if there's an article on this or not.

http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/za9m1f/batman--arkham-city-pop-facts--batman-arkham-city---8-bit-bats-in-the-belfry

Apparently, there is a playable copy of Sunsoft's Batman on the Xbox 360 and PS3 versions of 'Batman - Arkham City', non-GOTY editions. I assume this qualifies as an entry on the wiki, as Goldeneye has a similar feature with that ZX emulator (perhaps not in how it's accessed, but in the existence itself).

I wonder if one could boot some other NES games in-game?

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Posted on 04-01-13 10:47:58 PM

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Originally posted by Celice
http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/za9m1f/batman--arkham-city-pop-facts--batman-arkham-city---8-bit-bats-in-the-belfry

Check the upload date (3/31/2013). Seems awfully close to April Fool's Day for me.

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Posted on 04-02-13 02:31:47 PM

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Originally posted by Celice
So, uh, I see for April Fool's, TCRF is upside down. So I'm not gonna bother seeing if there's an article on this or not.

http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/za9m1f/batman--arkham-city-pop-facts--batman-arkham-city---8-bit-bats-in-the-belfry

Apparently, there is a playable copy of Sunsoft's Batman on the Xbox 360 and PS3 versions of 'Batman - Arkham City', non-GOTY editions. I assume this qualifies as an entry on the wiki, as Goldeneye has a similar feature with that ZX emulator (perhaps not in how it's accessed, but in the existence itself).

I wonder if one could boot some other NES games in-game?

The games have already been dissected by fans extracting resources. I honestly doubt a NES game would've gone hidden for this long in it, especially since it's a popular franchise -and- an Unreal engine-based game..

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Posted on 04-03-13 01:20:25 AM

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Metal Gear Solid for the GBC has a debug menu... couldn't find any info that anyone else discovered it previously. Bouts to another debug menu... this time, from a good game.

Game Genie code will access the god of debug menus upon bootup. 001-87F-B32

Every aspect of the game can be tested thoroughly.

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Posted on 04-03-13 11:53:41 AM (last edited by MathUser at 04-03-13 11:54:53 AM)

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This is the gameshark code he posted in #x

01000AC4

I only tested it in Mednafen and it boots to the screen, but you can't progress past it. It may be a problem with the emulator and not the code itself. Haven't tested it on other emulators yet. Anyway, look forward to seeing this detailed in the wiki.

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Posted on 04-03-13 01:51:20 PM

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These strings are in Donkey Kong Country (GBA) :
0xFD0000, ASCII:



===========================================

DK3 START

===========================================


EEPROM SIZE: 512

EEPROM SAVE SIZE: 120 *3

EEPROM GLOBAL SIZE: 136

EEPROM TOTAL USE: 496



NEW BACKGROUND :241 Warning Page


fours layer 0:1208

chars, size:467, 0x3a60

map layer 0 size :76


Background type: DM_1024

layer 0 uses 467, free 557

layer 1,2,3 uses 0, free 960

number of layers used :1



NEW BACKGROUND :200 Diddymask Frontend


fours layer 0:1172

chars, size:523, 0x4160

map layer 0 size :360

fours layer 3:704

chars, size:84, 0xa80

map layer 3 size :76


Background type: DM_1024

layer 0 uses 523, free 501

layer 1,2,3 uses 84, free 812

number of layers used :2



NEW BACKGROUND :167 Title Screen


fours layer 0:1912

chars, size:259, 0x2060

map layer 0 size :116

fours layer 1:832

chars, size:314, 0x2740

map layer 1 size :88

fours layer 2:256

chars, size:23, 0x2e0

map layer 2 size :96


Background type: DM_1024

layer 0 uses 259, free 765

layer 1,2,3 uses 337, free 495

number of layers used :3



NEW BACKGROUND :189 FRONTEND


fours layer 0:1264

chars, size:580, 0x4880

map layer 0 size :76

chars, size:10, 0x140


Background type: DM_1024

layer 0 uses 580, free 444

layer 1,2,3 uses 10, free 886

number of layers used :2



NEW BACKGROUND :11 Springin' Spiders


fours main layer :14260

char data : 71616

map layer 0 size :11784

map layer 1 size :11784

fours layer 2:1676

chars, size:212, 0x1a80

map layer 2 size :128

fours layer 3:2180

chars, size:235, 0x1d60

map layer 3 size :128


Background type: DM_DLOAD_2_LAYERS

layer 2,3 uses 447, free 1

number of layers used :4

0xB0EC4:

AUDIO ERROR, freq of sample unusually high. (>3 times normal)

AUDIO ERROR, pitch frequency too low

AUDIO ERROR, pitch frequency too high

AUDIO ERROR, adsr_acts table exceeded

AUDIO ERROR, midi_command table exceeded

AUDIO ERROR, midi delta time too big

AUDIO ERROR, midi delta time of 4 bytes unsupported

AUDIO ERROR, too many notes on channel 0.increase polyphony RAM

           or modify tune (perhaps reduce envelope release times)

AUDIO ERROR, too many notes on channel 1.increase polyphony RAM

           or modify tune (perhaps reduce envelope release times)

AUDIO ERROR, too many notes on channel 2.increase polyphony RAM

           or modify tune (perhaps reduce envelope release times)

AUDIO ERROR, too many notes on channel 3.increase polyphony RAM

           or modify tune (perhaps reduce envelope release times)

AUDIO ERROR, too many notes on channel 4.increase polyphony RAM

           or modify tune (perhaps reduce envelope release times)

AUDIO ERROR, too many notes on channel 5.increase polyphony RAM

           or modify tune (perhaps reduce envelope release times)

AUDIO ERROR, too many notes on channel 6.increase polyphony RAM

           or modify tune (perhaps reduce envelope release times)

AUDIO ERROR, too many notes on channel 7.increase polyphony RAM

           or modify tune (perhaps reduce envelope release times)

AUDIO ERROR, too many notes on channel 8.increase polyphony RAM

           or modify tune (perhaps reduce envelope release times)

AUDIO ERROR, too many notes on channel 9.increase polyphony RAM

           or modify tune (perhaps reduce envelope release times)

AUDIO ERROR, too many notes on channel 10.increase polyphony RAM

           or modify tune (perhaps reduce envelope release times)

AUDIO ERROR, too many notes on channel 11.increase polyphony RAM

           or modify tune (perhaps reduce envelope release times)

AUDIO ERROR, too many notes on channel 12.increase polyphony RAM

           or modify tune (perhaps reduce envelope release times)

AUDIO ERROR, too many notes on channel 13.increase polyphony RAM

           or modify tune (perhaps reduce envelope release times)

AUDIO ERROR, too many notes on channel 14.increase polyphony RAM

           or modify tune (perhaps reduce envelope release times)

AUDIO ERROR, too many notes on channel 15.increase polyphony RAM

           or modify tune (perhaps reduce envelope release times)

AUDIO ERROR, not enough space to put audio RAM code

AUDIO ERROR, more than 16 tracks in song

AUDIO ERROR, tune num > max tunes available

AUDIO ERROR, MIDI note on command before MIDI prog chng command

AUDIO ERROR, requested playback freq exceeds max freq

AUDIO ERROR, incorrect note mapping for rhythm_set

AUDIO ERROR, incorrect note mapping for keysplit

AUDIO ERROR, invalid fx number

AUDIO ERROR, invalid tune number

AUDIO ERROR, could not find startpoint

Built-in audio debugger?

Cranky's Dojo 9

HEROPAGE 3

HEROPAGE 2

HEROPAGE 1

Cobra Track 4

Cobra Track 3

BR3 Stampede Sprint

CREDITS

Swanky Backdrop

funky  backdrop

Cranky menu background

Exit Ripcurl Reef

End Sequence

Swankys World 8

Swankys World 7

Swankys World 6

Swankys World 5

Swankys World 4

Swankys World 3

Swankys World 2

Swankys World 1

WHIRLPOOL WRECK

Cave K's Kache

Cave Belcha's Burrow

Cave Hilltop Hoard

Cave Clifftop Cache

Cave Sky High Secret

Cave Glacial Grotto

Cave Sewer Stockpile

Cave Bounty Bay

Cave Undercover Cove

Cave Kong Cave

Cave Arich's Hoard

Warning Page

Cave Smuggler's Cove

Cave Bounty Beach

Banana Queen

Game Over Page

Swanky Kong (

Diddymask Frontend

Cranky Interior

Cranky's Dojo 8

Cranky's Dojo 7

Cranky's Dojo 6

Cranky's Dojo 5

Cranky's Dojo 4

Cranky's Dojo 3

Cranky's Dojo 2

Cranky's Dojo 1

Wrinkly Kong

FRONTEND

WORLDMAP PAUSE

Funky hut

DK Hut for intro

Cobra Track 2

Cobra Track 1

Cobra Track 0

Bramble Bear

Barter Bear

Baffle Bear

Barnacle Bear

Batchelor Bear

Blizzard Bear

Brash Bear

Bazooka Bear

Bjorn Bear

Benny Bear

Boomer Bear

Blunder Bear

Blue Bear

Bazaar Bear

Bonus - Warp Room

Title Screen

Bonus - Defeat Baddies

Bonus - Find Token

Bonus - Collect Stars

Bonus - Collect Nanas

Krematoa

Kaos Kore

Razor Ridge

Pacifica

K3

Mekanos

Cotton-Top Cove

Kremwood Forest

Lake Orangatanga

Main World Map

Exit Floodlit Fish

Exit Fish Food Frenzy

Exit Bazza's Blockade

BR3 Swoopy Salvo

BR2 Swoopy Salvo

BR1 Swoopy Salvo

BR 3 Tyrant Twin Tussle 

BR2 Tyrant Twin Tussle

BR1 Tyrant Twin Tussle

BR2 Criss Kross Cliffs

BR1 Criss Kross Cliffs

SAVE PAGE

BR2 Stampede Sprint

BR1 Stampede Sprint

BR2 Poisonous Pipeline

BR1 Poisonous Pipeline

BR2 Koindozer Klamber

BR1 Koindozer Klamber

BR1 Lightning Lookout

BR2 Lightning Lookout

BR2 Creepy Caverns

BR1 Creepy Caverns

BR2 Konveyor Rope Klash

BR1 Konveyor Rope Klash

BR2 Ropey Rumpus

BR1 Ropey Rumpus

BR2 Pot Hole Panic

BR1 Pot Hole Panic

BR2 Floodlit Fish

BR1 Floodlit Fish

BR2 Kongfused Cliffs

BR1 Kongfused Cliffs

BR2 Buzzer Barrage

BR1 Buzzer Barrage

BR2 Surf's Up

BR1 Surf's Up

BR2 Ripcurl Reef

BR1 Ripcurl Reef

BR2 Cliffside Blast

BR1 Cliffside Blast

BR2 Sunken Spruce

BR1 Sunken Spruce

BR2 Stormy Seas

BR1 Stormy Seas

BR1 Dingy Drainpipe

BR2 Dingy Drainpipe

BR2 Lemguin Lunge

BR1 Lemguin Lunge

BR2 Krack Shot Kroc

BR1 Krack Shot Kroc

BR2 Barrel Drop Bounce

BR1 Barrel Drop Bounce

BR2 Tearaway Toboggan

BR1 Tearaway Toboggan

BR2 Krevice Kreepers

BR1  Krevice Kreepers

BR2 Low G Labyrinth

BR1 Low G Labyrinth

BR1 Blazing Bazukas

BR2 Ripsaw Rage

BR1 Ripsaw Rage

BR2 Demolition Drainpipe

BR1 Demolition Drainpipe

BR2 Fireball Frenzy

BR1 Fireball Frenzy

BR2 Fish Food Frenzy

BR1 Fish Food Frenzy

BR2 Tracker Barrel Trek

BR1 Tracker Barrel Trek

BR2 Kreeping Klasps

BR1 Kreeping Klasps

BR2 Rocket Barrel Ride

BR1 Rocket Barrel Ride

BR2 Bazza's Blockade

BR1 Bazza's Blockade

BR2 Bobbing Barrel Brawl

BR1 Bobbing Barrel Brawl

BR2 Springin Spiders

BR1 Springin Spiders

BR2 Squeals On Wheels

BR1 Squeals On Wheels

BR2 Riverside Race

BR1 Riverside Race

BR2 Barrel Shield Bust Up

BR1 Barrel Shield Bustup

BR2 Murky Mill

BR1 Murky Mill

BR2 Skidda's Row

BR1 Skidda's Row

BR2 Tidal Trouble

BR1 Tidal Trouble

BR2 Doorstop Dash

BR1 Doorstop Dash

BR2 Lakeside Limbo

BR1 Lakeside Limbo

Knautilus

Rocket Rush

Swoopy Salvo

Tyrant Twin Tussle

Criss Kross Cliffs

Stampede Sprint

Kastle Kaos

Poisonous Pipeline

Koindozer Klamber

Lightning Lookout

Creepy Caverns

Konveyor Rope Klash

Kroctopus Krush

Ropey Rumpus

Pot Hole Panic

Floodlit Fish

Kong-Fused Cliffs

Buzzer Barrage

Barbos Barrier

Surf's Up

Ripcurl Reef

Cliffside Blast

Sunken Spruce

Stormy Seas

Dingy Drainpipe

Bleak's House

Lemguin Lunge

Krack Shot Kroc

Barrel Drop Bounce

Tearaway Toboggan

Krevice Kreepers

Kaos Karnage

Low-G Labyrinth

Blazing Bazukas

Ripsaw Rage

Demolition Drainpipe

Fire-Ball Frenzy

Squirt's Showdown

Fish Food Frenzy

Tracker Barrel Trek

Kreeping Klasps

Rocket Barrel Ride

Bazza's Blockade

Arichs's Ambush - Boss

Bobbing Barrel Brawl

Springin' Spiders

Squeals on Wheels

Riverside Race

Barrel Shield Bust-Up

Belchas' Barn - Boss

Murky Mill

Skidda's Row

Tidal Trouble

Doorstop Dash

Lakeside Limbo

Trev's Test Level

SPRITE GRID


[00 58 58 00 00 50 24 00 03 30 25 00 03 10 26 00 03 F0 26 00 03 00 0F 00 00 F0 00 00 00 C8 00 00 00 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 06 00 00 00]


EEPROM_V124


[00 00 02 00 00 40 00 00 03 06 00 00 00 00 20 00 00 00 04 00 03 0E 00 00 00 38 3D 00 03 A4 4A 0E 08 B0 4A 0E 08 38 3D 00 03 38 3D 00 03 38 3D 00 03 38 3D 00 03 68 00 00 00]


BR2 Lakeside Limbo

BR1 Lakeside Limbo

Knautilus

Rocket Rush

Swoopy Salvo

Tyrant Twin Tussle

Criss Kross Cliffs

Stampede Sprint

Kastle Kaos

Poisonous Pipeline

Koindozer Klamber

Lightning Lookout

Creepy Caverns

Konveyor Rop

The second-to-last level name is "Trev's Test Level". Trevor 'Trev' Attwood was involved in the development of the DKC titles.

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Posted on 04-03-13 05:42:03 PM

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Originally posted by Raccoon Sam
These strings are in Donkey Kong Country (GBA) :
(snip)

The audio error list is already on the wiki; but everything else isn't.

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Posted on 04-03-13 08:11:33 PM

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I saw in a text file, that I was looking into that Mega Man Legends equipment option. I didn't figure it out, but I had this code saved to see an error message. It's for the US version.

Force Error Display (L2 + O)
D00C0C28 2100
30097864 0001
Note: You will need to reset your console after using this code.

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Posted on 04-04-13 03:17:50 AM

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Not so much a "weird" discovery, but Raven Software and Activision released the source code archives for Jedi Outcast and Jedi Academy. These are only for the executable files - very few resources are included. A techie friend of mine noticed a lot of comments about the functions and whatnot, there's probably some silly stuff somewhere in there.

But the best thing is... Raven didn't take out any of the Xbox-specific source code. It all appears to be in there.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/jedioutcast/
http://sourceforge.net/projects/jediacademy/

Grab it before they figure out they left in stuff that should probably not be in there.

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Posted on 04-05-13 03:41:19 AM

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Xbox source code? I think there may be textures for the Xbox buttons in the games too. Nice job, but Raven and Activision just might not care either, since Lucasarts was shut down.

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Posted on 04-05-13 04:10:56 AM (last edited by Foxhack at 04-05-13 04:19:57 AM)

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Originally posted by omega59
Xbox source code? I think there may be textures for the Xbox buttons in the games too. Nice job, but Raven and Activision just might not care either, since Lucasarts was shut down.

Raven and Activision don't care.

Microsoft and its army of sue-happy lawyers, on the other hand...

Sadly there don't appear to be any Microsoft-authored tools in there. I saw batch files to turn MP3 and WAV files into XWB archives in the Jedi Academy folder but that's it. I wonder if there's source code for the Xbox ADPCM format...

Edit again: I don't think there's much left in there. Then again I am not a programmer.

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Posted on 04-06-13 01:06:15 AM

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It's mostly LUA script.

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Posted on 04-14-13 11:27:08 AM (last edited by Eon at 04-14-13 11:28:52 AM)

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US version Time Hollow dummied out Spanish, German, and Italian.
arm9.bin is only different file size. At 256 byes smaller than EU.

Though I don't have a mode force cheat, loading a savestate created at the EU language menu appears to work.

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Posted on 04-14-13 03:02:45 PM (last edited by Foxhack at 04-14-13 03:03:19 PM)

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Originally posted by Eon
US version Time Hollow dummied out Spanish, German, and Italian.
arm9.bin is only different file size. At 256 byes smaller than EU.

Though I don't have a mode force cheat, loading a savestate created at the EU language menu appears to work.

Oh, are you TheClaw at TCRF? I just left you a note at your talk page, you might want to mention that in the article! If all that's needed is a savestate then it probably needs a simple cheat code, like changing a variable.

Also, about the Xbox source code archives I mentioned? They were pulled, but not for the reasons I expected - Bink Video requested they be taken down because they contained copyrighted Bink source code.

Too late.

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Posted on 04-14-13 07:35:21 PM (last edited by Eon at 04-14-13 07:47:22 PM)

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Another promising lead, similiar method also worked for Dragon Ball Z Attack of the Saiyans.
I used the title screen instead of a menu since it uses the DS firmware setting.
Same languages disabled at that.

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Posted on 04-15-13 12:22:10 AM

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Found some odd stuff in the Graphics of WWF Smackdown! that I can't remember being in the widely-circulated proto either.....

Link is on the discussion page, along with a txt detailing odd stuff.

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Posted on 04-17-13 01:35:04 AM

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Chase. H.Q. Secret Police

has a hidden sound test. What do the numbers mean at the top? They don't appear to be build dates because the game was released in 2000. Hmm. Any insight?

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