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Posted on 12-22-11 09:32:07 PM Link | Quote
I'm sure most of you know what SOPA is by now, if not, I'm sure someone could throw up a link or two to some articles that I can edit into this first post of the thread.


However, I don't have much to say on the subject right now, I just wanted to throw up a video related to it. As much as I don't like this guy, what he has to say is at least partly interesting, so I suppose this video could be something to "enjoy" if your into the SOPA debates.

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Posted on 12-22-11 09:36:39 PM Link | Quote
There is no "enjoy" when it comes to SOPA. SOPA will destory the Internet and cause massive problems for any independent developer for games, music, etc. It will destory any form of innovation for the sake of corporate profits. It will destory social networks and it will stop businesses.

THIS BILL IS FUCKING BAD



Here is TotalBiscuit's video on SOPA, and he isn't even American. That alone should tell you how BAD this bill is.
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Posted on 12-22-11 09:41:24 PM Link | Quote
I was refering to the video, not the laws. (Protect IP too, oh the irony of the name....) ;

And yes, it would fuck up the internet everything for everyone, not just americans.
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Posted on 12-22-11 09:48:43 PM Link | Quote
I hate to be pessimistic, but this isn't really at the front of my mind.

I myself can't do anything that will affect the outcome of the voting as everyone I know knows of this by now.

Awareness in my area is high, and I've signed a petition or two that I doubt will do anything.

Since I've done legit all I can do, I'm just going to sit back and see where this takes us.

Obviously I hope this bill is outright rejected, but things don't generally go the way I want them to.
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Posted on 12-22-11 09:50:17 PM Link | Quote
fuck this shit
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Posted on 12-23-11 02:01:53 AM Link | Quote
If it passes and wrecks the internet, I just advise all the people effected go down and protest the sale of CDs, movies and television.

If they make it into kill or be killed, then it'll be simple. The MPAA and RIAA must go out of business.
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Posted on 12-23-11 05:15:48 AM (last edited by oldyz at 12-23-11 05:24 AM) Link | Quote

Ollllllo here -
this little puzzle that develops around the free world of a few trying , well , controlling the flow of information is something we better get used to -
I'm afraid for some, like me, that will have to kiss the internet good bye at one point or another.

For the rest it will be a big game of cat & mouse & a set of a minimum of skills to really navigate the web freely -
it is already a struggle for some countries where there is mandatory Internet identification policy already in place

And as a big 1st world example go no further than Australia, where there's already a good amount of censorship all over the place

For me the small signal that the internet is going to get more & more restrictive began when for many things you have to provide a mobile phone #-
then came the Kill switch proposals -
& now this SOPA attempt

Internet freedom & privacy is an illusion, but so far our generations have been allowed to use it relatively freely to pass it on to our children & grandchildren as something that its (to some ) a necessity -

the next generations of kids will have Less internet freedom & probably even Child ID's to be allowed to even log on -

http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/nacion/183029.html (somewhat related)

So in effect they will not Know better, and most information they will find will just be what the powers that be deem appropriate -

So my guess is that the ONLY force that can counter this in countries that are capable - is an internet that is created & run by citizens with their own means, or just go back to old means of communication and information sharing....
- it will be hairy-
But hopefully there is really really smart
good people out there that can find a solution to this

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Posted on 12-23-11 03:05:16 PM Link | Quote
NDAA + SOPA = "dear US government: go fuck yourself" - The World
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Posted on 12-23-11 05:02:09 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Aerakin
NDAA + SOPA = "dear US government: go fuck yourself" - The World


I must say, the US aren't painting themselves in a positive light.
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Posted on 12-24-11 12:29:09 AM (last edited by Viola at 12-24-11 12:42 AM) Link | Quote
http://youtu.be/WJIuYgIvKsc

People trying to get SOPA passed = same people who distributed filesharing software to begin with
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Posted on 12-27-11 01:33:13 AM Link | Quote
I can't help but wonder if SOPA is just intended to distract us from NDAA and PIPA...
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Posted on 01-06-12 09:21:39 AM Link | Quote
Of course, screwing over just the United States isn't enough for the US government


Sorry for the obviously biased source.
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Posted on 01-06-12 09:35:35 AM (last edited by Lunaria at 01-06-12 09:35 AM) Link | Quote
Of course, this has already been establish for pretty much most europen countries. Most of the shitty laws we have been seen in Sweden have been sent directly from the US under the same type of threat.

Honestly, I can't say I give a shit at all should anything bad happen to the US. :/
In fact, I recommend people to just leave the country while you still can.
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Posted on 01-06-12 01:20:05 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Lunaria
Of course, this has already been establish for pretty much most european countries. Most of the shitty laws we have been seen in Sweden have been sent directly from the US under the same type of threat.

Honestly, I can't say I give a shit at all should anything bad happen to the US. :/
In fact, I recommend people to just leave the country while you still can.



Olllllo write - Jane Read
Run to where? -
no need to run
the monster feeds on money, and since money is more powerful than votes,
right now the best thing to do (& it would be nice to see worldwide)
is STOP PAYING TAXES

in a way big corporations have it right - they pay this huge , huge 'taxes' and tell their favorite politicos what they want in exchange-
But is it just money? or are politicos extorted to do things in other ways? some are known psychopaths - but what about the rest? the ones with sons, daughters, pets, mothers , grandmas, grandpas, cousins, wives , husbands & dreams-

In the other hand we pay our tributes & keep paying & paying & paying & mostly don't give a tamagotchi's ass what is done with our money -
our threats are penalties/jails, but how/who do jails run & who would collect such flood of penalties -
Its not like we live in times that if you don't pay your dues, I take your heart & offer it to the sun god....

Of course this might not work , since a ton of mexicuuns don't pay taxes anyway & things still run somehow -
(oh yeah , politicos borrow money in our name - rats)

ohhh crud - it will take lives & lifetimes of many out there to resolve this foolishness



Oldyz is sharpenning the Obsidian knifes, in case his Psychic surgery skills are rusty

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Posted on 01-06-12 09:09:04 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Lunaria

In fact, I recommend people to just leave the country while you still can.


If I could I would. But unfortunately that requires money.
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Posted on 01-06-12 09:11:08 PM Link | Quote
Buy a commune house in another country, call it JulHouse, Julers move there. Done.
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Posted on 01-07-12 09:39:16 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by dotUser
Buy a commune house in another country, call it JulHouse, Julers move there. Done.


But it has to have a barn on the property or else no sale.
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Posted on 01-07-12 05:41:01 PM Link | Quote
I'm sorry to report that stopping paying taxes or moving to another country will not make the problem go away and in fact just cause more problems instead.
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Posted on 01-07-12 06:10:08 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Metal_M0n8∞
I'm sorry to report that stopping paying taxes or moving to another country will not make the problem go away and in fact just cause more problems instead.



olllllollll0

that is why i repented & said it does not work anyway -
powerful got enough money to run themselves or borrow it.

running to where again?

it has been said that there is nowhere to run since a lot of countries are being coerced to act according to US wishes-

PLUS other countries have bad internet laws in place already anyway

Gringos have to fix this mess in any way they can think of, or its Kaput for the series of tubes


Oldyz is at the tianguis doing dome physical file sharing


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Posted on 01-13-12 08:23:00 PM Link | Quote
Good news! SOPA has been seriously gutted. The only thing left in the bill is a provision that cuts off American money to foreign websites that sponsor piracy.
You can exhale now
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