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Posted on 06-25-11 07:44:46 PM

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Originally posted by Metal_Man88
Heh. Even with it being totally broken by Modern Sonic's boost, it looks fun. Now to continue waiting to be able to play it myself...

I agree completely. Classic or modern, it looks great.

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Posted on 06-25-11 08:01:33 PM

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Why was this not made for the wii again? :/

I mean, you'd think they would at least try making a wii version, it's not like the people with wiis care a whole lot about HD graphics. (At least I don't) Beside, it can still look quite good without HD. :/

Anyone got any footage from the 3DS version that I have been hearing about?

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Posted on 06-25-11 08:06:42 PM (last edited by The Doctor at 06-25-11 05:08 PM)

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The 3DS version doesn't look nearly as good. I watched a hands-on video a while back, during E3, of GHZ Modern gameplay, and it was straight sidescrolling, with the camera angle skewed slightly. :/
EDIT: Okay, I found some Classic gameplay footage and they upgraded the graphics to 3D, but the level layout is directly from the originals, afaik. Now I'm impressed.

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Here's some Modern gameplay of the 3DS version. I'm not sure what to think. I'm hoping the guy playing just isn't too good and that there really isn't a problem with the homing attack/air dash.

And yeah, you'd think they'd at least try a Wii version. Look at Sonic Colors! It looks fantastic, and it isn't super-high-poly.

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Posted on 06-26-11 05:31:50 AM

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3DS version is being made by DIMPS. This means it may be hit (Sonic Rush) or miss (Sonic 4). I'm not going to have too high hopes for it though.

Although the Doomsday theme being remixed is great.

As for them not making this game for the Wii, it seems to be a strategy--they're alternating between consoles. PS360 people didn't get Colors, now Wii people don't get Generations. Since I have a Wii and a 360, I'm good.

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Posted on 06-26-11 01:10:58 PM (last edited by Karis at 06-26-11 10:16 AM)

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Originally posted by Metal_Man88
As for them not making this game for the Wii, it seems to be a strategy--they're alternating between consoles. PS360 people didn't get Colors, now Wii people don't get Generations. Since I have a Wii and a 360, I'm good.

I have noticed this too, and IMO it does not seem like a good strategy. I mean, sure the wii team could be working on a new game while they make this one (but who knows?) but with all hype going around for sonic games, well, it just makes the choice of alternating odd.

Also, classic sonic looks good so far, but it looked very copy pasta, so it's hard to judge how the level design team did. The modern one for the 3DS on the other hand, looks rather... bad, for the lack of a better word. It could be that the player was bad, but it looked more like the game bugged out. But the level felt very... empty. Not due to the lack of things to do, but due to the lack of background objects to make it look nice.

Anyhow, I might get my dad to get it for the PS3 or xbox later, since he got both, and then maybe I will get to play that. (As from what I have seen that version looks great!) But I'll wait untill reviews comes around the corner before I make any final judgment on if I should get it or not. :<

Edit: wait, is it just me or does it seem like act one is classic and act two is modern for the 3DS version, rather then having a full level set for both? :o

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Posted on 06-26-11 10:17:58 PM

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Rolling around at the speed of blast processing (aka Classic Remix of City Escape)

I imagine this mix could be hit or miss for people. I like it for the most part. Obviously, don't listen if you want to avoid musical spoilers.

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Posted on 06-26-11 10:20:42 PM

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It's not a bad remix as per see... but I'm unsure how well it would fit with the rest of the classic parts.

I'm a bit biased though, as I think the original is great song!

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The autotuning is a bit weird but it sounds fine to me. I'm expecting other songs to be more exciting though.

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Posted on 06-26-11 10:38:05 PM

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I like that remix a lot, actually.

Though I guess I'm another person who won't be able to play this game anytime soon, due to not having either of the consoles in question...

Maybe in the distant future I'll be able to emulate it.

Well, on console anyway, I liked the Sonic Rush games a lot and will probably consider the 3DS version...

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Posted on 06-27-11 01:23:19 AM

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I like the remix as a song, but as City Escape.. eh. Muchly prefer the original to this one.

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Posted on 06-28-11 05:12:28 PM (last edited by Teyla at 06-28-11 02:13 PM)

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As to how the music fits, most of those instruments besides the drums are on the megadrive/genesis. The bass is totally there, as the genesis has awesome FM synth. The lead synth is one of the lead instruments. They were just touched up (reverb, etc) for modern music.

Furthermore, the lead synth follows the guitar from the demo version of City Escape, which doesn't have vocals

It's got more references in it than just the snare drums and endless mines :V

Also, as for modern sonic, I'm excited for the levels, since they seem to follow the colors/day unleashed design, which is actually very fun.

Classic sonic is cool, but his physics REALLY need fixing. They're very off, ESPECIALLY rolling.

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Posted on 06-28-11 05:57:32 PM

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Although I love the remix, I prefer the original song more, but I guess that's just because it's just feel out of place in my mind (though considering Classic Sonic probably never heard Japanese-American hard rock before I guess it would be more less out of place for him

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Mmm... I disagree on Classic Sonic. His physics appear to be more or less intact, just that it seems to be using a somewhat Sonic CD-like setup for his momentum.

That said, he could use a little more momentum/height on his jumps, and a bit easier to roll up (seems a bit touchy currently.)

However, even if they left it as is, it'd be good enough. Let us not forget that even the classics themselves had their subtle physics alterations--after a point, Sonic fans may as well start criticizing anything made after Sonic 1 for altering Sonic's jumps and rolling in any way.

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Posted on 06-30-11 08:58:29 PM

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So I tried out the demo, and the Physics aren't perfect. BUT they aren't far from perfect, in fact, they're rather close. So even if this is the final product, then I'd still be happy with it. But if Sega just did a tiny tiny amount of polishing, I'd be outright exalted about it! ____________________

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Posted on 06-30-11 09:50:12 PM

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Originally posted by Metal_Man88
Mmm... I disagree on Classic Sonic. His physics appear to be more or less intact, just that it seems to be using a somewhat Sonic CD-like setup for his momentum.

They actually feel quite a bit different when you're actually playing vs. watching. In a lot of the original videos, they look perfect, but that certainly is not the case.

They could use some touch-ups, but they are for the most part completely fine. The more annoying thing is the slight delay when jumping, and how many events are scripted. Springs don't let you keep your horizontal momentum like the old games, and you can't even alter the direction of Sonic until the game decides you're allowed to. That's more frustrating than anything. The player should always be in control of Sonic.

The level design for GHZ is very impressive though, both in terms of layout and graphically. I'd be very surprised if this isn't my favorite Sonic game since SA2B.

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Yeah, they do feel a bit rough like that. It definitely 'looks' better than it plays, but thankfully that isn't like Sonic 4. Ugh.

Why are they even making an Episode 2 of Sonic 4? If it has the same wonky controls, then it'll look like a hilarious joke next to Generations.

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Posted on 06-30-11 10:02:27 PM

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For some reason I don't think they are going to make more on Sonic 4.

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Posted on 07-01-11 04:28:54 AM

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@Karis: They are, they even said they're working on it now. :/

Honestly, my biggest problem is the complete inability to roll through loops from the top of a hill like you can do in every game before Sonic 4 that had rolling.

I mean
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If they say he's classic they can do classic right.

Still pretty good, I just really wish they would fix that because that's the only thing I noticed wrong besides the springs, without it pointed out to me.

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