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Posted on 06-07-11 09:54:17 PM Link | Quote
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Nobody going to mention the PSVITA's 3DS-killing price?

People must have been wowed by the 3DS's PSVITA-killing games.

Trouble is, Nintendo's always kind of been the "cheaper" option for handhelds, so if some kid wants a portable video game, they could get the Nintendo one, because it was cheaper than the competition, and the kid was still happy because they got a Nintendo console, with good games. Sure the games help, but targeting your market in ways like that is a smarter move than investing in cramming expensive features in. I'm not hating on Nintendo or anything, I'm just kind of worried about how this might go for Nintendo.

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Posted on 06-07-11 10:05:38 PM Link | Quote
Well, the most expensive things are not always the best.




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Posted on 06-07-11 10:17:50 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by paulguy
Trouble is, Nintendo's always kind of been the "cheaper" option for handhelds, so if some kid wants a portable video game, they could get the Nintendo one, because it was cheaper than the competition, and the kid was still happy because they got a Nintendo console, with good games. Sure the games help, but targeting your market in ways like that is a smarter move than investing in cramming expensive features in. I'm not hating on Nintendo or anything, I'm just kind of worried about how this might go for Nintendo.

I don't know- it's not like Sony undercut Nintendo in price, after all. It's true that in a sense Nintendo has lost a major advantage... however, don't forget, it's 2011 and the iPod touch is cheaper than both.

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Posted on 06-07-11 10:56:30 PM Link | Quote




To put it frank, the 3DS is overprice, and that's the major factor why I don't own one yet. The line up is not that great, sure, but at least I know a few good titles that are coming that I do want. :/

The price just turns me down so much that I don't want to buy it. The price tag is 2400-2600 SEK around here. (I could get it for 2300 if I order if from France...) Which is quite expensive IMO. :/

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Posted on 06-08-11 12:25:17 AM Link | Quote
To the point though, Sony is going to be losing money with the Vita at the price range they put it, even to stay competitive. Nintendo priced to make money.

I still don't get the touchscreen on the back either.

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Posted on 06-08-11 02:15:43 AM (last edited by Keitaro at 06-07-11 11:18 PM) Link | Quote
I just got back from it, actually. Most of my time today was spent waiting in line for the Wii U, so I had a somewhat heavier focus on Nintendo's events for the day. Its actually a neat little system, and they showed a demo-living room style space with one set up, it looked REALLY sleek and modern. Actually getting to play the thing was a blast, though their NSMB with Mii characters tech demo managed to crash the system in a hilarious way. I'm in the process of dumping all my photos and videos from the day now. If there's anything in particular anyone wants to see, please let me know! If I didn't get a chance to check it out today, there's still time

Edit: and because it absolutely needs to be mentioned, Kirby Mass Attack is easily one of the most addictive and unique games I've played in a while. It requires a little bit of patience at first with the controls, but other than that it is very fun.
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Posted on 06-08-11 03:01:35 AM Link | Quote
What IS Kirby mass Attack about? I saw the other Kirby trailer but nothing on that one yet.

Also for those worrying about Mario Kart 3DS, it's been confirmed that Retro is collaborating on the game so hey, that's something.

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Posted on 06-08-11 03:04:52 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Shadic
Originally posted by cpubasic13
Tempted to rename this thread to "Nintendo Circlejerk" because that is basically what it is.

Oh shut up.
No.


Nintendo had the most interesting E3 conference simply because it had the most brand-new information. The Project Cafe stuff was previously rumored, but that's about it. Sony's awesome bombshell was the price of the Vita, which really puts the pressure on Nintendo to drop the price on the overpowered, (imo) not super-impressive 3DS. Microsoft's conference was completely void of anything interesting, sans Halo.

Nintendo's conference had one good part to it: the Wii U. The rest was just rehashes of things we have played already for over 10+ years and brought absolutely NOTHING new to the table. Even Kid Icarus is old hat at this point (and follows what a lot of modern games are doing, which is putting it on god damn rails), leaving a lot to be desired.

Man.

Gaming has really gone down the fucking hill, hasn't it?

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Posted on 06-08-11 03:13:05 AM (last edited by Peardian at 06-08-11 12:34 AM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by FirePhoenix
What IS Kirby mass Attack about? I saw the other Kirby trailer but nothing on that one yet.

You get up to 10 Kirbies and mob stuff! It's kinda like Kirby x Pikmin with a unique character art style. I'm really looking forward to it.

Originally posted by cpubasic13
Nintendo's conference had one good part to it: the Wii U. The rest was just rehashes of things we have played already for over 10+ years and brought absolutely NOTHING new to the table. Even Kid Icarus is old hat at this point (and follows what a lot of modern games are doing, which is putting it on god damn rails), leaving a lot to be desired.

Depends on what you consider the table. To be fair, the games they showed were (almost) all revealed last year, which I agree was somewhat disappointing. But it makes sense, though, as they've got a bunch of major projects in production and due soon, plus the Wii U.


Gaming has really gone down the fucking hill, hasn't it?

No?

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Posted on 06-08-11 03:21:03 AM Link | Quote
Ah I just found the trailer for Mass Attack, that does look like fun! And it's for normal DS too! I can actually buy it!

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Posted on 06-08-11 03:32:57 AM Link | Quote
I love how your argument is that we played the games already 10 years ago. Listen to what you just wrote. Ten years ago. That's a VERY long time, way more than a generation of consoles and gamers alike have passed in that time. So, what, are gamers who grow up in the current generation supposed to be told nope, too bad, all the good games were made ten years ago and you're too late to play them now? I think its perfectly reasonable what they are doing. I played the Starfox 64 3DS demo and it actually felt pretty fresh, not gonna lie. Know why? Because I haven't played it since the N64 days. I still own an N64, I still own that game, but do I play it every day? No. This is totally justified.
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Posted on 06-08-11 04:17:39 AM Link | Quote
General consensus on ranking the E3 conferences seems to be Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft. I agree with that order.

Nintendo: Wii U is a stupid name. The controller looks like it's gonna cost $80-100 by itself. But the promise is definitely there. The key to me is that they have a lot of A-list titles lined up by third parties already *and* Nintendo stated they'll reveal their online strategy within the last week *and* they've listened to third party developers regarding that. That seems to tell me that Nintendo's a lot more inclined this time around to listen to them and they'll tailor the machine's capabilities to attract them. If the machine's powerful enough and if they can maintain strong third party support, they're going to do just fine. As for the 3DS stuff... I dunno. The new Mario game looks excellent but I still want the system to get a more steady stream of top-quality releases before putting down my money for it.

Sony: Well... Vita looks really nice. I'm sure the games will be really nice as well. Still, not an exceptionally great press conference by any means. No major bombshells or anything like that, and Sony does need to throw a lot of weight behind Vita to make sure it doesn't go the way of the PSP. At least Sony showed some games but I really think they needed a very strong showing, especially given the events of the last month or so. They couldn't do it.

Microsoft: I am a happy 360 owner. I enjoy my 360 very much. You know why I enjoy it? Because I can play some great games on it. You know why I didn't enjoy the press conference? Because 90% of the damn thing was "KINECT KINECT KINECT OMG GET KINECT NOW". First off, Microsoft really should have had a few A-list games with Kinect support available WHEN THE PERIPHERAL WAS RELEASED. Regardless on how good the Kinect support is on the new batch of games, it's coming across as an attempt to shove the thing down everyone's throats. It left a really bad taste in my mouth because some of the games coming out look to be really good, but I'm ranking them last because they really didn't place as much emphasis on the games themselves. Almost felt like a damn Kinect infomercial.

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Posted on 06-08-11 07:16:51 AM Link | Quote


Come on, guys. Keep it civil or I'm locking the thread.

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Posted on 06-08-11 11:20:24 AM Link | Quote
I didn't realize Ubisoft had their own little presentation thing, but apparently it had this guy, who people are dubbing Mr. Caffeine. I kinda want to watch it now.

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Posted on 06-08-11 02:27:16 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Colin



This is the most angry I've ever seen you post.

I'm satisfied with what Nintendo has shown for now. I've had a lot less time for games the past few years, so the handheld releases are enough to keep me happy with my 3DS.



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Posted on 06-08-11 02:32:55 PM Link | Quote
Wii U? I immediately thought of "We? You!"

I'm probably going to wait a few years for that or the 3DS however, when the supply of titles for the Wii and DS starts to dwindle

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Posted on 06-08-11 03:13:22 PM Link | Quote
The supply of new DS title is already starting to dwindle. Kirby Mass Attack was the only DS game listed in Nintendo's list of upcoming games, with the rest being DSiWare or 3DS. Still, all the games out could probably last you quite a while. I know I have enough games to last me a few years just in my bottom drawer! And one of them is still in the plastic wrap, ready to be opened!

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Posted on 06-08-11 04:49:46 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Peardian
The supply of new DS title is already starting to dwindle. Kirby Mass Attack was the only DS game listed in Nintendo's list of upcoming games, with the rest being DSiWare or 3DS.

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