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FieryIce

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Posted on 04-21-11 01:56:29 AM (last edited by FieryIce at 04-20-11 10:58 PM) Link | Quote
Edit: It seems Apple may not know where you've been after all (probably, I am not too sure) ... sorry for the misleading title

Pretty scary, huh?


Researchers announced today that they found what look like secret files on the iPhone that track user location and store it on the device, without the permission of the device owner. It's unclear what the data is used for and why Apple has been collecting it in iOS products that carry a 3G antenna for nearly a year now.

Alasdair Allan, senior research fellow in astronomy at the University of Exeter, and writer Pete Warden, who discovered the log file and created a tool that lets users see a visualization of that data, say there's no evidence of that information being sent to Apple or anybody else. Even so, the pair note that the data is unencrypted, giving anyone with access to your phone or computer where backups may be stored a way to grab the data and extrapolate a person's whereabouts and routines.

According to Allan and Warden, the tracking did not begin until iOS 4, which was released in late June 2010. This was the first version of iOS to drop support for devices like the original iPhone, with devices like the iPhone 3G and second-generation iPod Touch getting a more limited feature set. Along with iPhones, 3G-enabled iPads are also keeping track of the data, though it's unclear if this is true for people who have 3G devices without active cellular subscriptions.

"By passively logging your location without your permission, Apple [has] made it possible for anyone from a jealous spouse to a private investigator to get a detailed picture of your movements," the researchers wrote in their FAQ.

While acknowledging that there is no need to panic, the researchers noted that if someone gets hold of the device, they can access the unencrypted data. "Your cell operator has this information," they said in the news conference. Anyone who wants it has "to get a court order to get that from a provider. But now, all you have to do is lose your phone in a bar."

Read more: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-20055885-37.html#ixzz1K7f8gO2a


Privacy? Who needs that nowadays?

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Posted on 04-21-11 02:00:42 AM Link | Quote
I want one, but they are too expensive + paying each month. Rather an iPod.

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Posted on 04-21-11 02:04:30 AM Link | Quote
Hm, I wonder if this has something to do with the Maps application?

In any case, I do wonder what the purpose of the iPhone storing this data is, even if it's not actually sending it to Apple...

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Posted on 04-21-11 02:13:15 AM Link | Quote


It's probaly part of a secret Apple plot to take over the market by force from Microsoft. Either that or it's for a GPS app.

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Posted on 04-21-11 02:16:24 AM Link | Quote
Yeah. Thy might be afraid Microsoft MIGHT beat them.

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Posted on 04-21-11 02:17:38 AM Link | Quote
It wouldn't surprise me anyway if they even were tracking you because it seems just like a sneaky underhanded thing that Apple would do to try and find your target market and your likes.

I'm willing to bet in the next ten years it's going to be like Futurama too and corporations will start putting ads in our dreams.

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Posted on 04-21-11 02:18:37 AM Link | Quote
Big corporatocracy is watching you.

I actually do value my privacy a lot. I don't want everyone to know where I am every nanosecond and what I'm doing.

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Posted on 04-21-11 02:19:49 AM (last edited by Imajin at 04-20-11 11:19 PM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by CB
It's probaly part of a secret Apple plot to take over the market by force from Microsoft. Either that or it's for a GPS app.

Take over the market from Microsoft? Let's face it, Microsoft is not Apple's major foe in the mobile market... It's webOS Google, no doubt...

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Posted on 04-21-11 05:48:35 AM Link | Quote
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All modern smartphones have the ability to track where you go. Most of them have it enabled. If you don't like it, turn it off.

That said, I use an old phone, as I don't believe in that witchery.

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Posted on 04-22-11 02:30:13 AM Link | Quote
the true issue isn't that they are tracking people


it's that the phones have been keeping a location log

and it has been updating it for 10 months


oh and it is just sitting there

unencrypted in every phone's root folder

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Posted on 04-22-11 07:27:54 PM Link | Quote
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Originally posted by krutomisi
the true issue isn't that they are tracking people


it's that the phones have been keeping a location log

and it has been updating it for 10 months


oh and it is just sitting there

unencrypted in every phone's root folder


Classic security failure. Maybe some day people will realize that leaving stuff like that sitting around is a bad idea.

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Posted on 04-23-11 07:25:42 AM Link | Quote
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Does it have global read permission or does it require root access? If it requires root access to read, aside from the program that needs it, then it's a big deal; otherwise, not too much of a problem.

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Posted on 04-27-11 02:38:54 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by paulguy
Does it have global read permission or does it require root access? If it requires root access to read, aside from the program that needs it, then it's a big deal; otherwise, not too much of a problem.

I think you got that backwards.

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