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Posted on 04-05-10 04:38:37 AM (last edited by Hectamatatortron at 03-21-11 03:00 AM) Link | Quote
Co-op mode ROM hack has been released; it's a working release and it should be functional enough to play most of the game with your friends and, if you get stuck, you should be able to get unstuck by playing the game in single player until you can get further in multiplayer again.

The hack allows you to save and load progress you make in the multiplayer mode of the game, effectively allowing you to play through the campaign with your friends without forcing them to be that stupid robot like in normal co-op. Aside from managing save information for you, this hack also gives you access to the single player menu, which will let you choose which level you would like to play on.

To use the hack, download this, then follow the instructions/read the "README" files. Have fun~

Note: This hack works in mupen64++. You can use the emulator's online features to play co-op online! If you dig around in the directories nearby a bit, you can find info on GameShark codes that will enable usage of a mostly similar form of this hack for Project 64, although you can just use the ROM hack for Project 64 as well if you follow the instructions (but why would you when you can play the hack online via mupen?! ...Although you COULD use the method for getting the hack working online to import saves from Project 64 and later export them back to it for more comfortable offline play).

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Posted on 06-25-10 03:48:12 PM Link | Quote
this sound very good


i send this to my friend and hope he can get it running.

i always thought this would have been a prize for beating the game, but i guess rare ran out of time and did not or did not bother.


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Posted on 06-26-10 07:59:30 PM Link | Quote
What about PJ64k? You can use newer plugins with it too...

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Posted on 06-28-10 02:10:21 PM (last edited by Hectamatatortron at 06-28-10 11:14 AM) Link | Quote
I appreciate the interest; the meticulous effort I put into making the ROM hack as clean as possible so that the trainer that is applied can be used for other purposes on top of the fact that this is a pretty sweet hack for a pretty sweet game means I'd be sad if it were overlooked.

The requirements are:

- Cheat code support
or
- Ability to emulate the game correctly

for using the hack offline, and

- Online cheat code support
or
- Ability to to emulate the game correctly
and
- Synchronization of the hacked logic, not just the rest of the game (for some reason I can't get this working yet; the hack only works offline at the moment despite every indication that it should work online)

to play the hack online.

IIRC PJ64k is based off of an older version of PJ64 which can't even run the game offline, much less online, due to improperly emulating the debug loop the game tries to enter when booted improperly. That, or its cheat support doesn't work online. Or whatever the reason was; I'm sure there was one.

mupen64++ has cheat support according to its GUI but I couldn't get it working, and PJ64 (and probably PJ64k) can't properly emulate the ROM hack I did to get around the the lack of RAM hacking support in mupen64++.

Hence, the cheat codes only work in PJ64 and the ROM hack only works in mupen64++, and the latter should work online and doesn't (from what little testing I've done, anyway).

I've been meaning to get back to this hack and fix it up, but I'm an idiot and can't figure out how to trick the Kaillera client into letting me host two sessions on the same machine for easy debugging. I could probably just use my laptop but I'd rather avoid that if I could.

A volunteer might be enough, but scheduling is a bitch, and that's only if I get someone to agree to help in the first place.

Interesting note, the mupen64++ test I did succeeded so far as playing co-op together online - if you don't try to load your save data, you can play the campaign with your friends no problem.

However, if you DO try to load your save data using the other part of the hack, the game becomes desynchronized. I'm mostly hoping this was just user error on my friend's part but I've yet to confirm this. It's slightly possible the hack actually works.

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Posted on 02-22-11 10:30:12 AM (last edited by oldyz at 02-22-11 07:36 AM) Link | Quote
Hectamatatortron


I was wondering if you could hack jet force to have 2 screens for the same character.
1 player mode -

it does not matter how the screens are split , the tricky thing is for the second screen---
it has to render everything a few centimiters different to the left or right, so the effect is that one camera is the left camera
and other camera is the right camera -

the result looks sort of like this:
(with movement and all of course)
<object width="640" height="390"><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/HfZvAbTi3NI?fs=1&hl=en_US&rel=0" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="390"></embed></object>

If this hack is made - we get Jet Force geminy 3D - if used in a samsung or sony tv on one of the 3d modes - (upconverted trough a dvd recorder or similar)


that or what can also be done is record the footage of the 2 screens - split it with a video editor an upload it to youtube for everyone to see Jet force in various 3D modes.

Here is the link of the same Stairs pic with the 3d enabled
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfZvAbTi3NI

This idea can also work for other split screen games , but for now it seems that you have
very good mastery of Jet Force.

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Posted on 03-05-11 12:00:19 AM Link | Quote
I'm thinking I could just as soon do it with any other game with split screen. I only have the information I seek for the things I want to do because I decisively search for it instead of floundering around learning things at random the way less experienced hackers might.

If you'd like to try it yourself, set the player count to be greater than 1 and see about identifying the location of the data for the camera that follows player 1, then look around references to that data for a reference to the second camera and do whatever trigonometry you need to get the second camera to work relative to the first in the way you need. Trigonometry itself is super easy though without any library functions to call you might have to write your own trigonometric functions rather than calling them. Unless you can somehow figure out where they are in the game's code?

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Posted on 03-19-11 08:28:22 AM Link | Quote
mm

the clues sound good , it think i will search more -
math is not friendly to me but not impossible.

now about those other split screen games -
the thing is since 2001 me and friends bugged nintendo for awhile about "reviving" the virtual boy -
we thought that the N64 was capable of making stereo graphics by exploiting the split screens.
then if people would plug in some head set or something they could enjoy some games in 3d mode -

Now that youtube has the ability to share 3d videos, a nice thing for those that have no 3d tv (like me)
is to capture games in stereo mode and then upload them there.

the easy way costs more- to have a 3d stereo graphics card and then capture the emulation footage.

the hard way is hacking the split screen games - but this way anyone can play the game capture it and share it.
and it should work withe the original N64

Other is making an emulator plugin that renders 2 windows (one with different camera values that the emulator plugin forces)

well here is a list of N64 split screen games that should work in 3d by modding the split screen

Star fox 64
Donkey Kong 64
Mario Kart 64
Perfect Dark
Jet Force
Ridge Racer
Goldeneye
Diddy Kong Racing
Banjo tooie
Conker's Bad fur day
Turok 2 & 3
Quake 2
Quake
Duke Nukem 64

there are some more but this is all i remember for now.

I hope looking for the jet force values is not harder than looking for the gameshark values of perfec dark stuff....

i think this would be a topic ,but i don't know if its ok since i see that the formum is more about
showing off finished results or work that is in progression.

sorry if it made this go off topic.








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Posted on 03-20-11 03:46:46 PM Link | Quote
Considering this hack is close to completion I would say it'd make more sense to move your idea to a new topic; this topic isn't about something that's finished quite yet (even though it's about to me) so I don't see why there'd be a problem having a similar topic floating around about "an idea instead of a hack".

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Posted on 03-21-11 03:18:48 AM (last edited by Hectamatatortron at 03-21-11 02:56 AM) Link | Quote
Aha! I think I've done it. I've confirmed that you can play through the whole game with this hack with about 90% of it able to be done in multiplayer (not 100% sadly, but hey, it's better than nothing!) and you can even do it online if you're crafty about it. The instructions for how to get it working online are accurate but poorly written; I intend to improve them in the near future.

Here's a video of this co-op hack working online, though:

http://www.justin.tv/hextator/b/281287273

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Posted on 03-21-11 06:03:12 AM (last edited by Hectamatatortron at 03-21-11 03:05 AM) Link | Quote
First post updated to be more accurate. If anyone actually likes this game as much as I do you'll be happy to know everything you need (except for the ability to understand my currently less than helpful instructions) to play this game's single player with more than one player offline and online is up there (I do intend to fix up those instructions and add a utility to aid in following them in the near future so try not to worry too much about that D:).

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Posted on 03-21-11 11:29:52 PM (last edited by Hectamatatortron at 03-22-11 12:25 AM) Link | Quote
Edit: Did what I said I was going to do, here is the RHDN page for it.

Also, here is a better video of it than the one I'd been showing off before, complete with a demonstration of how saving and loading is possible even when playing co-op online.

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