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Posted on 03-14-11 05:11:33 AM Link | Quote
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Why in the hell would the US go to war with Japan if radation reached them? If they got hit with radation, then pretty much everyone in japan would probably already be quickly dying of horrible cancers, not to mention most of China, Korea, Australia, Parts of Russia, ect...
That depends on the prevailing winds. It doesn't spread out in a circle, it's spread by particles that are released into the atmosphere and carried by the wind.
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Posted on 03-14-11 05:19:32 AM Link | Quote
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We wouldn't. But all of us know that the rednecks who think the earthquake is some sort of karma for Pearl Harbor would cry for a war effort for whatever reason.


The rednecks would likely build their own force and attempt to go to war, then end up being beaten down by both a personal defence army AND the American army.

Anyway, another explosion occurred. Reactor 3's building this time, they say it did not compromise/damage the reactor.

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Posted on 03-14-11 06:06:08 AM Link | Quote

It's worth noting that the destroyed sections of the buildings are "meant to keep the weather out and nothing in."

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Posted on 03-14-11 06:26:50 AM Link | Quote
I just love how the rednecks are getting on Japan about WWII, yet you don't see them going around calling all German people Nazis. Oh right, because Germans are white so its forgivable. Can we just round up all the ignorant fucks in the world and launch them in to orbit like a Katamari?
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Posted on 03-14-11 11:43:27 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Keitaro
I just love how the rednecks are getting on Japan about WWII, yet you don't see them going around calling all German people Nazis. Oh right, because Germans are white so its forgivable. Can we just round up all the ignorant fucks in the world and launch them in to orbit like a Katamari?


You sound as if you wish a Tsunami upon them.


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Posted on 03-14-11 01:18:03 PM Link | Quote
Yeah could we please not let this topic spiral into everyone posting about how much they hate rednecks? Yes there are plenty of infuriatingly ignorant people out there, but that's no reason for this thread to have more posts on "rednecks/republicans/bible-thumpers are all stereotypical dumb ignorant fucks" than actual updates on Japan. it just shows that we are stooping to their level of prejudice at that point, especially when people start wishing death or "horrible karma" upon them.

So about Japan, I don't really keep up with any news at all anymore, but I am obviously concerned about this and I have only heard limited information. Can anyone fill me in on the status of the nuclear plants and what damage has been caused by them at this point, and have the aftershocks stopped by now or are they still dealing with other major problems besides the nuclear plants? Also, has aid officially been deployed yet? I know the U.S. agreed to send aid but right now I don't know if we have actually done anything besides rallying people to give to the red cross.

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Posted on 03-14-11 02:45:07 PM (last edited by PYRATROOPER at 03-14-11 11:57 AM) Link | Quote
I have heard that the carrier we have over there pulled back a little bit because they got hit with about a months worth of radiation. There have reports of radiation sickness. Japan has been saying all this radiation is within acceptable levels but even the people in cities around the evac zone around the reactors are leaving.



Some interesting facts about the Earthquake that i heard about GMA are:

Japan has moved about 8 feet to and in some places as much as 12 feet
And the island of japan dropped by about 2 feet.

It has knocked the earth off it axis by around 6.5 degrees

Day shorted by 1.8 microseconds

since the earthquake happened last Friday there have been 2 quakes of 7.0 or higher
since the earthquake happened last Friday there have been 125+ of quakes of 6.0 or higher
since the earthquake happened last Friday there have been 275+ quakes of 5.0 or higher
since the earthquake happened last Friday there have been 400+ quakes of 4.0 or higher





I will post more if i remember it later.





Some key facts about Japan's history of earthquakes include:

* Japan accounts for about 20 per cent of the world's earthquakes of magnitude 6 or greater.
* A tremor occurs in Japan at least every five minutes, and each year there are up to 2,000 quakes that can be felt by people.
* The Great Kanto earthquake on September 1, 1923, had a magnitude of 7.9 and killed more than 140,000 people in the Tokyo area. Seismologists have said another such quake could strike the city at any time.
* On January 16, 1995, an earthquake with a magnitude of 7.3 hit central Japan, devastating the western port city of Kobe. It was the worst earthquake to hit Japan in 50 years, killing more than 6,400 and causing an estimated $100 billion in damage.
* On Oct. 23, 2004, a 6.8-magnitude quake struck the Niigata region, about 250 kilometres north of Tokyo, killing 65 people and injuring 3,000.
* On March 25, 2007, a 6.9-magnitude quake struck the Noto peninsula in Ishikawa prefecture, about 300 kilometres west of Tokyo, killing one person, injuring more than 200 and destroying hundreds of homes.
* On July 16, 2007, a 6.8-magnitude quake struck Niigata prefecture, about 250 kilomtres north-west of Tokyo, killing 11 people and injuring 1,950. The tremor caused radiation leaks at the world's largest nuclear plant, which officials said were within safety regulations and posed no threat to the environment. The leaks nonetheless reignited fears about nuclear safety in the quake-prone country.
* The Tokyo metropolitan government said in March 2006 that a magnitude 7.3 earthquake under Tokyo would probably kill more than 5,600 people and injure almost 160,000. Official estimates of economic damage have topped more than $1 trillion.
* In a report published in 2004, German insurer Munich Re was even more pessimistic, saying a severe earthquake in the Tokyo-Yokohama area would kill hundreds of thousands of people, cause damage running into trillions of dollars and have global economic repercussions.
* The Tokyo-Yokohama metropolis, with a population of 35 million, has the highest "at risk" rating from natural disasters such as earthquakes of any of the world's 30 "megacities", the report said.

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Posted on 03-14-11 07:23:44 PM Link | Quote


I find it amazing that the offical death toll is only a couple thousand considering the population density and the strength of the earthquake.

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Posted on 03-14-11 08:23:48 PM Link | Quote
Trust me it will be more.


On to an an article that will explain it better.


When it comes to building a country, you'd be hard-pressed to do it in a more volatile part of the world than Japan.

About 1,500 earthquakes strike the island nation every year. Minor tremors occur on a nearly daily basis. Deadly quakes are a tragic part of the nation's past.

The anniversary of the Great Kanto Earthquake of 1923, for example, which killed more than 100,000 people around Tokyo, is now national Disaster Prevention Day. More recently, a 6.8 magnitude earthquake struck the city of Kobe in 1995, killing more than 6,000 people.

Japan has such a large potential for earthquakes — and disaster — because the nation sits atop four huge slabs of the Earth's crust, called tectonic plates. These plates mash and grind together and trigger deadly earthquakes, like the 8.9-magnitude quake that struck on Friday (March 11). [Photos: Japan Earthquake and Tsunami in Pictures]

The tectonic activity has also created explosive volcanoes, like south Japan's Mount Kirishima, which continued its recent eruptive streak today (March 14).

Japan lies along the Pacific Ring of Fire — a narrow zone around the Pacific Ocean where a large chunk of Earth's earthquakes and volcanic eruptions occur. Roughly 90 percent of all the world's earthquakes — and 80 percent of the largest ones — strike along the Ring of Fire.

Great quake

Friday's quake off the east coast of Honshu, Japan's largest island, was the fifth-largest ever recorded, according to the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS), and the largest ever recorded in Japan.

More than 150 aftershocks of magnitude 5 or greater have followed — including more than two dozen of magnitude 6 or greater. The number of aftershocks in Japan is not uncommon for an earthquake of this size, said geologist Eric Geist, of the USGS, at a news conference last week, and the rumbling could last for a year or more.

As a rule of thumb, an earthquake's largest aftershock is about one magnitude lower than the mainshock, said Paul Caruso, a geophysicist with the USGS. The largest aftershock from this earthquake has been a magnitude 7.1.

Japan's tectonic shuffle

Earthquakes typically occur along faults, which are breaks in the rocky plates of the Earth's crust. These faults accumulate strain over the years as two plates butt heads.

Japan's stretch of the Ring of Fire is where the North American, Pacific, Eurasian and Philippine plates come together. Northern Japan is largely on top of the western tip of the North American plate. Southern Japan sits mostly above the Eurasian plate.

Friday's temblor struck 231 miles (373 kilometers) northeast of Tokyo and 80 miles (130 km) east of Sendai, Honshu, in the Pacific Ocean near the Japan Trench. The Japan Trench, a subduction zone, is where the Pacific plate — beneath the Pacific Ocean — dives underneath North American plate — beneath Japan. This violent movement, called thrust faulting, forced the North American plate upward in this latest quake.

On average, the Pacific Plate is moving west at about 3.5 inches (8.9 centimeters) per year, and the movement has produced major earthquakes in the past — nine earthquakes of magnitude 7 or greater since 1973. The largest of these was a magnitude 7.8 earthquake in December 1994, which caused three fatalities and almost 700 injuries, approximately 160 miles (260 km) to the north of Friday's quake. In June of 1978, a magnitude 7.7 earthquake about 22 miles (35 km) to the southwest caused 22 fatalities and over 400 injuries.

Earthquake aftermath

The rupture during Friday's quake was almost 200 miles (322 km) long, on an underwater fault that is about 220 miles (354 km) long by about 60 miles (97 km) wide, said Tom Broker, of the USGS. Earthquakes along that fault can affect the rest of the world — literally.

"This is just a ginormous earthquake," Broker said. "It's really hard to grasp how big it is."

For one, the intense temblor accelerated Earth's spin, shortening the length of the 24-hour day by 1.8 microseconds, according to geophysicist Richard Gross at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif.

Japan's Earthquake Research Committee said the earthquake forced the North American plate eastward by about 66 feet (20 meters), reported Japan's national broadcast agency, NHK. The entire island of Honshu was moved about 8 feet (2.4 m) east, according to USGS scientists. Geologists in St. Louis reported that their city moved up and down a fraction of an inch during the quake, but too slowly for anyone to notice, reported the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.

Tsunami trigger

Friday's huge earthquake was about 15.2 miles (24.4 km) deep, which was shallow enough to trigger a tsunami as the seafloor was pushed up and away from Japan. As the energy from the quake rose, two waves were created. Wave heights of more than 20 feet (6 m) socked Japan's coast, where the death toll is expected to exceed 10,000, according to news reports.

At the same time, a tsunami roared across the Pacific Ocean at the ground-speed of an airplane, said Ken Hudnut of the USGS. Damage was reported in Hawaii and near the California-Oregon border.



the japan trench aftershock map

The Japan Trench, site of last week's deadly earthquake. Credit: NASA Earth Observatory.

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About 1,500 earthquakes strike the island nation every year. Minor tremors occur on a nearly daily basis. Deadly quakes are a tragic part of the nation's past.

The anniversary of the Great Kanto Earthquake of 1923, for example, which killed more than 100,000 people around Tokyo, is now national Disaster Prevention Day. More recently, a 6.8 magnitude earthquake struck the city of Kobe in 1995, killing more than 6,000 people.

Japan has such a large potential for earthquakes — and disaster — because the nation sits atop four huge slabs of the Earth's crust, called tectonic plates. These plates mash and grind together and trigger deadly earthquakes, like the 8.9-magnitude quake that struck on Friday (March 11). [Photos: Japan Earthquake and Tsunami in Pictures]

The tectonic activity has also created explosive volcanoes, like south Japan's Mount Kirishima, which continued its recent eruptive streak today (March 14).

Japan lies along the Pacific Ring of Fire — a narrow zone around the Pacific Ocean where a large chunk of Earth's earthquakes and volcanic eruptions occur. Roughly 90 percent of all the world's earthquakes — and 80 percent of the largest ones — strike along the Ring of Fire.

Great quake

Friday's quake off the east coast of Honshu, Japan's largest island, was the fifth-largest ever recorded, according to the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS), and the largest ever recorded in Japan.

More than 150 aftershocks of magnitude 5 or greater have followed — including more than two dozen of magnitude 6 or greater. The number of aftershocks in Japan is not uncommon for an earthquake of this size, said geologist Eric Geist, of the USGS, at a news conference last week, and the rumbling could last for a year or more.

As a rule of thumb, an earthquake's largest aftershock is about one magnitude lower than the mainshock, said Paul Caruso, a geophysicist with the USGS. The largest aftershock from this earthquake has been a magnitude 7.1.

Japan's tectonic shuffle

Earthquakes typically occur along faults, which are breaks in the rocky plates of the Earth's crust. These faults accumulate strain over the years as two plates butt heads.

Japan's stretch of the Ring of Fire is where the North American, Pacific, Eurasian and Philippine plates come together. Northern Japan is largely on top of the western tip of the North American plate. Southern Japan sits mostly above the Eurasian plate.

The world's tectonic plates.

The world's tectonic plates. Credit: USGS.

Friday's temblor struck 231 miles (373 kilometers) northeast of Tokyo and 80 miles (130 km) east of Sendai, Honshu, in the Pacific Ocean near the Japan Trench. The Japan Trench, a subduction zone, is where the Pacific plate — beneath the Pacific Ocean — dives underneath North American plate — beneath Japan. This violent movement, called thrust faulting, forced the North American plate upward in this latest quake.

On average, the Pacific Plate is moving west at about 3.5 inches (8.9 centimeters) per year, and the movement has produced major earthquakes in the past — nine earthquakes of magnitude 7 or greater since 1973. The largest of these was a magnitude 7.8 earthquake in December 1994, which caused three fatalities and almost 700 injuries, approximately 160 miles (260 km) to the north of Friday's quake. In June of 1978, a magnitude 7.7 earthquake about 22 miles (35 km) to the southwest caused 22 fatalities and over 400 injuries.

Earthquake aftermath

The rupture during Friday's quake was almost 200 miles (322 km) long, on an underwater fault that is about 220 miles (354 km) long by about 60 miles (97 km) wide, said Tom Broker, of the USGS. Earthquakes along that fault can affect the rest of the world — literally.

"This is just a ginormous earthquake," Broker said. "It's really hard to grasp how big it is."

For one, the intense temblor accelerated Earth's spin, shortening the length of the 24-hour day by 1.8 microseconds, according to geophysicist Richard Gross at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif.

Japan's Earthquake Research Committee said the earthquake forced the North American plate eastward by about 66 feet (20 meters), reported Japan's national broadcast agency, NHK. The entire island of Honshu was moved about 8 feet (2.4 m) east, according to USGS scientists. Geologists in St. Louis reported that their city moved up and down a fraction of an inch during the quake, but too slowly for anyone to notice, reported the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.

Tsunami trigger

Friday's huge earthquake was about 15.2 miles (24.4 km) deep, which was shallow enough to trigger a tsunami as the seafloor was pushed up and away from Japan. As the energy from the quake rose, two waves were created. Wave heights of more than 20 feet (6 m) socked Japan's coast, where the death toll is expected to exceed 10,000, according to news reports.

At the same time, a tsunami roared across the Pacific Ocean at the ground-speed of an airplane, said Ken Hudnut of the USGS. Damage was reported in Hawaii and near the California-Oregon border.


Explosive eruptions

Colliding tectonic plates not only trigger earthquakes — they also build volcanoes. About 10 percent of the world's active volcanoes are in Japan, mostly where the Pacific Plate is diving below the Philippine Plate.

About 950 miles (1,500 km) south of Friday's earthquake, the Shinmoedake cone on the Kirishima mountain range erupted on Sunday. The blast was the volcano's largest in 52 years, the BBC reported. The volcano had been active earlier in the year, and despite the renewed activity coinciding with last week's earthquake, any link between the two would be speculation at this time, reported the Los Angeles Times.

The Pacific Ring of Fire is home to 452 volcanoes in total — that's 75 percent of the world's active and dormant volcanoes.



http://www.ouramazingplanet.com/japan-tectonics-explosive-geology-ring-of-fire-110314-1234/

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Posted on 03-14-11 09:30:10 PM Link | Quote
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I find it amazing that the offical death toll is only a couple thousand considering the population density and the strength of the earthquake.


When all is said and done, it's possible that over 30,000 would have died.

But that's just a personal estimate. There are a whole lot of people that are still unaccounted for.

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Posted on 03-14-11 10:06:12 PM (last edited by Peardian at 03-14-11 07:15 PM) Link | Quote
In all this, I can only wish for the best for Japan. As bad as it may get, I want it to end with us saying "It could have been much worse."

My heart goes out to everyone in Japan. Best of luck.



@PYRATROOPER: Can we get a source on that first batch of information? Because I see reliable sources saying it shifted by not even 10cm, and 6.5 degrees of the earth would mean a change of nearly 720 km and would be utterly disasterous.

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Originally posted by Gabu
Originally posted by CB
I find it amazing that the offical death toll is only a couple thousand considering the population density and the strength of the earthquake.


When all is said and done, it's possible that over 30,000 would have died.

But that's just a personal estimate. There are a whole lot of people that are still unaccounted for.


And worse disasters could still happen, The erupting volcano and the Nuke reactor are both possibilities.

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Posted on 03-14-11 10:44:34 PM Link | Quote

With all due respect, the amount of radiation released from the Fukushima Daiichi reactor is less than the amount you'll find in your average banana.

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Posted on 03-14-11 10:46:00 PM Link | Quote
It's only really a concern if the reactor goes critical - most modern nuclear reactors are far, far less harmful than what used to happen.

Heck, the average person would get more radiation exposure by standing at the top of a mountain.
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Posted on 03-14-11 10:46:55 PM Link | Quote

Actually, even if the core completely melts down, the concrete containment vessel is designed for that.

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They are severely worried about reactor to because of the heat build up might lead to a melt down so having the enclosure is not necessarily good if there is no water to keep it cool.

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And that would likely be the reason they are currently pumping seawater into the reactors.

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Posted on 03-15-11 01:07:07 PM (last edited by PYRATROOPER at 03-15-11 10:07 AM) Link | Quote
Just found an interesting article fore you guys. "Dangerous Radiation Levels Reported at Japan's Stricken Nuclear Plant"


This is not good at all.

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Let's cut the worry-mongering and go to something a bit more rational.

The SA Thread made it clear that while that raising nuclear level was bad, it also began to go back down again, and may have just involved a fire stirring up radioactivity in a separate containment pool--NOT Chernobyl 2 or something ridiculous like that rag you linked is suggesting.

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Posted on 03-15-11 07:08:06 PM Link | Quote
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I find it amazing that the offical death toll is only a couple thousand considering the population density and the strength of the earthquake.


When all is said and done, it's possible that over 30,000 would have died.

But that's just a personal estimate. There are a whole lot of people that are still unaccounted for.


And worse disasters could still happen, The erupting volcano and the Nuke reactor are both possibilities.


Oh, you mean the volcano that was erupting constantly for many years, before the quake? It only stopped erupting a few weeks ago, and its entirely possible the quake knocked it loose again.

The volcano is supposed to be erupting. It's the alternative to exploding, Mt. st. helens style.

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