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Posted on 01-27-11 07:22:45 PM (last edited by FieryIce at 01-27-11 07:01 PM) Link | Quote
First we have Tunisia:


A standoff between street protesters and the Tunisian authorities deepened on Wednesday as officials first promised and then postponed a reshuffling of the interim government that has been clinging to power since the ouster of the former dictator, Zine el-Abidine Ben Ali.

The interim government, condemned by protesters because of its domination by former officials of Mr. Ben Ali’s administration, continued to move against the former president. The justice minister, one of Mr. Ben Ali’s former lieutenants, said the government had issued an international arrest warrant for the former president and his family on charges of corruption and enriching themselves at public expense. The interim authorities are also bringing to trial six former members of Mr. Ben Ali’s personal security force for inciting violence.

Hundreds of protesters who drove to the capital from the impoverished southern provinces have been camped outside the prime minister’s office since the weekend, sleeping on mattresses and eating food donated by local residents. Hundreds of others join them each day to chant for the dissolution of the interim government, and by Wednesday the protesters were visibly exhausted.

As the crowd exceeded 1,000, some scaled the walls of government buildings, toppled a lamppost and nearly pulled a police officer out of his armored car. In the Old City, the police fired tear gas to clear a street near the Justice Ministry while soldiers closed off side streets. Later, soldiers fired shots in the air to try to calm the crowd around the prime minister’s office.


Then Yemen gets some inspiration:


The popular revolt in Tunisia has inspired the largest protests "in the recent history of Yemen", the editor-in-chief of the Yemen Post newspaper, Hakim Almasmari, says.

Yemenis were not prepared anymore to put up with widespread poverty while "corruption is everywhere", Mr Almasmari told the BBC World Service.

"They are saying: 'Enough is enough, we want justice, and those who are corrupt should be taken to court'."

Thousand of Yemenis have been demonstrating in the capital Sanaa, calling on Ali Abdullah Saleh, president for 30 years, to step down.

Mr Almasmari said the opposition had decided to initiate protests against the president because "they felt that all chances of a dialogue with the ruling party are vanishing".


And finally, Egypt: (Photos!)


Egyptian protesters continued to protest, calling for the dissolution of parliament, implementation of democracy and higher wages, along with the ouster of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak.


This could have some severe implications if they're successful, I just hope no extremist government takes their place.


Edit: More info on Egypt:


Emboldened by this month's revolt in Tunisia that toppled its long-serving leader, Egyptians have staged mass protests since Tuesday in an unprecedented outburst of anger against Mubarak's strong-handed rule.

"This is a revolution," one 16-year-old protester said in Suez late on Thursday. "Every day we're coming back here."

Nobel Peace Prize winner Mohamed ElBaradei, who returned to Egypt from Vienna on Thursday, has called for Mubarak to resign and said he would join the protests on Friday.

A page on Facebook social networking site listed more than 30 mosques and churches where protesters were expected gather.

"Egypt's Muslims and Christians will go out to fight against corruption, unemployment and oppression and absence of freedom," the page said, adding more than 70,000 had signed up online.

Late into Thursday night in Suez, police fired tear gas at protesters who hurled stones and petrol bombs. Fires burned in the street, filling the air with smoke.
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Posted on 01-28-11 10:48:46 PM Link | Quote
And now, apparently Egypt has left the Internet

Perhaps, in retaliation against the riots, the government is trying to block all foreign news and everything, kind of like North Korea does?

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Posted on 01-28-11 11:56:03 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by FieryIce
Later, soldiers fired shots in the air to try to calm the crowd around the prime minister’s office.

And this helps calm people down how? I imagine that panic would be more likely.

I guess gunshots would probably disperse the crowd. Still, there is a difference between dispersing and calming a crowd.

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Posted on 01-29-11 12:57:16 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Terra
And now, apparently Egypt has left the Internet


With technology the U.S. appears to have made.


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Posted on 01-29-11 01:05:40 AM Link | Quote
It seems that, in Egypt, the protesters are winning:


The Egyptian capital descended into near anarchy Friday night, as the government sent riot police, and then the army, to quell protests by tens of thousands of demonstrators determined to push President Hosni Mubarak from office.

By the end of the day-long battle, the protesters were still standing and the police were nowhere to be seen. Mubarak - who had not spoken publicly since the protests began Tuesday - made a televised speech after midnight, announcing that he had asked his Cabinet to resign. The move fell far short of protesters' demands, and seemed likely to ensure that the anti-government demonstrations that have erupted here would continue.

President Obama said a short time later that he had talked with the Egyptian president after his speech and pressed Mubarak to make long-promised reforms. "What is needed are concrete steps to advance the rights of the Egyptian people," Obama said.

It remained unclear late Friday night what role the Egyptian military might play. Mubarak, a former air force officer, draws much of his strength from the military, and any decision by the armed forces to withdraw support would mean the certain end of his reign.

But unlike the police, which unleashed an arsenal of weapons against the demonstrators, the military did not take any immediate action, and protesters gleefully welcomed the soldiers' arrival in a thundering of personnel carriers.

Protesters were honking their horns in celebration and roaming freely through central parts of the city late in the evening, in defiance of a strict curfew. The night air was thick with black smoke, and the sounds of explosions, gunshots, sirens, cries and occasional cheers echoed through the darkness.

The protests, which were launched in cities nationwide but were largest in Cairo, were the most serious in Egypt's modern history. Protesters have called for Mubarak, who at 82 has ruled this country with an iron fist for 30 years, to give up his position, leave the country and allow fresh elections.


Article is much longer, that's just the beginning. Anyway, this is becoming more and more interesting, but I'm not too confident that they will succeed, as the same thing happened in Iran not so long ago and they failed. Though, Egypt is saner than Iran, so we'll have to wait and see.
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Posted on 01-29-11 10:25:01 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by MajesticLight
Originally posted by FieryIce
Later, soldiers fired shots in the air to try to calm the crowd around the prime minister’s office.

And this helps calm people down how? I imagine that panic would be more likely.

I guess gunshots would probably disperse the crowd. Still, there is a difference between dispersing and calming a crowd.


I think how it works is "Oh, shit! Gunfire! I better STFU!"
Or so the theory goes.
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Posted on 01-30-11 02:38:00 AM Link | Quote
Looters rip heads off 2 mummies at Egyptian Museum ... I'm not liking this

In other news, the military has apparently sided with protesters. A successful coup d'etat is somewhat likely.
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Posted on 01-30-11 02:40:50 AM Link | Quote

Originally posted by FieryIce
Looters rip heads off 2 mummies at Egyptian Museum ... I'm not liking this

I don't understand why people do that sort of thing... I mean, that particular Egyptian regime was removed quite awhile ago, get over it already.
Originally posted by FieryIce
In other news, the military has apparently sided with protesters. A successful coup d'etat is somewhat likely.

Hopefully this can be resolved quickly.

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Posted on 01-30-11 02:47:06 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Imajin

Originally posted by FieryIce
In other news, the military has apparently sided with protesters. A successful coup d'etat is somewhat likely.

Hopefully this can be resolved quickly.

What I'm hoping for is that they will stay true to their demands for human rights and get rid of sharia law if they manage to overthrow the government.
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Posted on 01-30-11 03:46:08 AM Link | Quote

Apparently, some of the egyptian protesters include Islamic fundies who want more sharia law

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Posted on 01-30-11 03:47:37 AM (last edited by Imajin at 01-30-11 12:47 AM) Link | Quote

Originally posted by Sukasa
Apparently, some of the egyptian protesters include Islamic fundies who want more sharia law

It's unfortunately pretty common in the Middle East for anti-government groups to be fairly fundamentalist-Islamic... Outside of the Iran most of the dictatorships are fairly secular, I believe.

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Odds are it will become even more Islamic, at least unless something unusual happens.

All it means is the status quo is dead, or at least severely injured.

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Posted on 01-30-11 06:02:52 PM Link | Quote
Protests spread to Sudan


Sudanese police clashed with students Sunday as anti-government protests broke out in the capital, Khartoum.

Hundreds of students took part in the protests, shouting slogans that criticized high prices, the government, and President Omar al-Bashir.

At least three demonstrations took place, one in central Khartoum and two at local universities. Witnesses say at one of the schools, students threw stones at police, who in turn beat them with batons.

Authorities have reported five arrests.

The students were responding to Internet pleas for peaceful, anti-government rallies. Organizers said they were inspired by the protests that toppled Tunisia's president and the ongoing demonstrations in Egypt.

The protests coincided with the first official announcement that southern Sudan has voted to secede from the north.


Who's next? China?
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Posted on 02-01-11 07:50:11 PM (last edited by FieryIce at 02-01-11 04:54 PM) Link | Quote
Protesters have won (at least somewhat):


Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak said on Tuesday he would not leave Egypt although he would step down from the presidency at the end of his term, due to end when the country holds a presidential election in September. "The Hosni Mubarak who speaks to you today is proud of his achievements over the years in serving Egypt and its people," he said in an address broadcast on state television.

"This is my country. This is where I lived, I fought and defended its land, sovereignty and interests, and I will die on its soil," he said.

He also said pledged to implement a series of reforms, including calling on the judiciary to combat corruption, one of the complaints of protesters who have pushed him to announce an end to his presidency later this year.


It's still not known whether protests will continue to force him to leave now.

From Twitter:

Per AJ English, protesters in Alexandria reacted to Mubarak by chanting "go away, revolution until death!". Not much ambiguity there.


I guess this will go on, then.
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Don't have a source, but Muburak seems to have counter-protestors and doesn't seem to want to leave.

This could take a while...

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Posted on 02-02-11 07:31:47 PM Link | Quote
Yes, and it's getting worse by the minute. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/02/hosni-mubarak-supporters-violence-cairo

This could potentially turn into a civil war.
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If they can't control those pro-Muburak protestors, they're just asking for a Civil war.

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Been watching the BBC's live coverage of Mubarak's latest speech a short while ago:

BREAKING NEWS: If you're just joining us, President Mubarak says he is staying until September. The reaction from the protesters has been anger and disappointment.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12307698


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Posted on 02-11-11 03:44:44 PM Link | Quote
And he's gone!

Mubarak has abruptly resigned today, and the army has taken over the country. Let's see if there's a transition to a civilian government soon enough.
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Hm. Interesting. I can't even begin to guess what will happen next.

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