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Jul  General Chat  A new revolution in math!    
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Drag 2630 Level: 95 Posts: 1953/2635 EXP: 8359552 For next: 309055 Since: 070307 Since last post: 133 days Last activity: 6 hours 
 
I discovered the end of the numbers. Basically, a number that is so big, there are no other numbers that are bigger than it. Let's call it J. Conversely, J is the smallest possible number.
J + 1 = J J  1 = J  1 J + 1 = J + 1 J  1 = J nJ = J J/n = J/n J^n = J J^(1/n) = J^(1/n) When you think about it, J is a lot better than infinity: f(x) = x^2 g(x) = x^3 When x = infinity, f(x) != g(x) even though they both eva However, when x = J, f(x) == g(x), because they both eva There is still some debate as to whether J + 1 = J, and J  1 = J, but J + 1 = J is the commonly accepted behavior. So yeah, suck on that, Pythagoras. 
Liliana "A horrible person". That's what it says. "A horrible person." We weren't even testing for that. Level: NaN Posts: 2170/3841 EXP: NaN For next: 0 Since: 072307 Since last post: 5.0 years Last activity: 5.0 years 
 
And I thought you discovered how to properly divide by zero.
You disappointed me. 
Tyty Level: 157 Posts: 8096/8599 EXP: 49257621 For next: 321612 Since: 070607 Since last post: 5.0 years Last activity: 5.0 years 
 
Cirvy is gonna have fun with this when he shows up. 
Sine 2310 Level: 89 Posts: 2213/2314 EXP: 6875467 For next: 40434 Since: 070707 Since last post: 1.0 years Last activity: 90 days 
 
Originally posted by TeylaBeating him to it. 
devin Wart i'm mima irl Level: 103 Posts: 1750/3297 EXP: 11228957 For next: 242449 Since: 042908 From: FL Since last post: 4 days Last activity: 5 hours 
 
Originally posted by Drag 
misterj Member Level: 30 Posts: 151/201 EXP: 161867 For next: 4002 Since: 021509 Since last post: 6.0 years Last activity: 6.0 years 
 
I am a fan of this theory for personal reasons. 
Drag 2630 Level: 95 Posts: 1954/2635 EXP: 8359552 For next: 309055 Since: 070307 Since last post: 133 days Last activity: 6 hours 
 
Originally posted by devinOriginally posted by Drag Even primitive alphabet machines have a key for J. Let's see you type a sideways8 on a Speak&Spell. 
Nicole Diskkun Level: 138 Posts: 2318/6397 EXP: 31605791 For next: 57190 Since: 070607 From: Boston, MA Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour 
 
Isn't that like IEEE floatingpoint inf, then? Or am I missing something? 
Sine 2310 Level: 89 Posts: 2214/2314 EXP: 6875467 For next: 40434 Since: 070707 Since last post: 1.0 years Last activity: 90 days 
 
Just as a side note
J + 1 = J J + (J) + 1 = J + (J) 1 = 0 I mean really? 
Drag 2630 Level: 95 Posts: 1955/2635 EXP: 8359552 For next: 309055 Since: 070307 Since last post: 133 days Last activity: 6 hours 
 
Originally posted by Imajin Nah, I think you've got it. In the computing world, there is a such thing as a number that's too big to have any bigger numbers than it, and the same thing for small numbers. In the end though, the IEEE floatingpoint infinity ends up being finite, so you could classify it as J. 
Drag 2630 Level: 95 Posts: 1956/2635 EXP: 8359552 For next: 309055 Since: 070307 Since last post: 133 days Last activity: 6 hours 
 
Originally posted by Sine J + 1 = J  Thus, J + (J) + 1 = J + (J) J + (J) = J + (J) 0 = 0 You wouldn't say 3 * 2 + 1 = 3 * 2 + 1  
misterj Member Level: 30 Posts: 153/201 EXP: 161867 For next: 4002 Since: 021509 Since last post: 6.0 years Last activity: 6.0 years 
 
Hello Drag, welcome to Jul. Please do not double post. Be sure to read the FAQ as well. Have a nice stay! 
Sine 2310 Level: 89 Posts: 2215/2314 EXP: 6875467 For next: 40434 Since: 070707 Since last post: 1.0 years Last activity: 90 days 
 
Originally posted by DragNo, because (3*2) + 1 != 3 * (2+1). If you're obeying normal number laws, you'd recognize that J must be commutative with normal numbers over the same operations. Thus my logic still stands. 
Drag 2630 Level: 95 Posts: 1957/2635 EXP: 8359552 For next: 309055 Since: 070307 Since last post: 133 days Last activity: 6 hours 
 
Originally posted by Sine J needs to be eva J + (J) + 1 The 1 gets cancelled out before the Js cancel each other out. I'd need to do a little more research, but the order of operations would likely be changed like PJEMDAS, or something similar. Thus, if you adhere to the proper rules of J: J + (J) + 1 = J + (J) 0 = 0 
misterj Member Level: 30 Posts: 154/201 EXP: 161867 For next: 4002 Since: 021509 Since last post: 6.0 years Last activity: 6.0 years 
 
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Grey Member I AM CONSTANTLY LEVELLING Level: 17 Posts: 49/49 EXP: 21126 For next: 3617 Since: 072907 From: House Since last post: 6.0 years Last activity: 6.0 years 
 
J wouldn't be the smallest number, since making a number negative doesn't reduce its size. It just means it's of the greatest scalar magnitude in the negative direction.
The smallest number is zero. 

 
? / 0 is just "undefined". It isn't possible to do.
I don't see why everyone makes it out to be a big deal. 
Sine 2310 Level: 89 Posts: 2216/2314 EXP: 6875467 For next: 40434 Since: 070707 Since last post: 1.0 years Last activity: 90 days 
 
Originally posted by GigIn certain algebraic rings it's defined. But we're not going to talk about those here 

 
Originally posted by SineOriginally posted by GigIn certain algebraic rings it's defined. I mean in basic math. Just like 1^{1/2} isn't possible until you start figuring in imaginary numbers. 
Nicole Diskkun Level: 138 Posts: 2319/6397 EXP: 31605791 For next: 57190 Since: 070607 From: Boston, MA Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour 
 
Originally posted by Gig People don't like being told they can't do things. 
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