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Posted on 01-24-11 05:28:21 PM Link | Quote
As bizarre as it sounds


A Nobel prize winning scientist who shared the 2008 prize for medicine for his role in establishing the link between HIV and AIDS has stirred up a good deal of both interest and skepticism with his latest experimental results, which more or less show that DNA can teleport itself to distant cells via electromagnetic signals. If his results prove correct, they would shake up the foundations upon which modern chemistry rests. But plenty of Montagnier’s peers are far from convinced.

The full details of Montagnier’s experiments are not yet known, as his paper has not yet been accepted for publication. But he and his research partners have made a summary of his findings available. Essentially, they took two test tubes – one containing a fragment of DNA about 100 bases long, another containing pure water – and isolated them in a chamber that muted the earth’s natural electromagnetic field to keep it from muddying the results. The test tubes were housed within a copper coil emanating a weak electromagnetic field.

Several hours later, the contents of both test tubes were put through polymerase chain reactions to identify any remnants of DNA – a process that subjected the contents to enzymes that would make copies of any DNA fragments they found. According to Montagnier, the DNA was recovered from both tubes even though the second should have only contained water.

Montagnier and his team say this suggests DNA emits its own electromagnetic signals that imprint the DNA’s structure on other molecules (like water). Ostensibly this means DNA can project itself from one cell to the next, where copies could be made – something like quantum teleportation of genetic material, a notion that is spooky on multiple levels.

Naturally, there is plenty of skepticism to go around regarding these findings, ranging from outright dismissal to measured doubt. Indeed, it’s a pretty radical notion: DNA replicating itself through “ghost imprints” rather than the usual cellular processes. More details will emerge when the paper is published in a peer-reviewed journal, as it is likely to be. The findings will then have to be repeated in multiple independent studies to be considered valid, something that will take some time. In the meantime, expect these findings to draw equal parts intrigue and skeptical scrutiny.


My boyfriend works with PCR all the time, he says this is quite possible but he's very skeptical and at the moment thinks the most likely explanation is contamination. We'll just have to wait and see if this gets replicated. What do you guys think?
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Posted on 01-24-11 05:29:33 PM Link | Quote
Contamination seems likely to me, too.

If not, holy fuck

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Posted on 01-24-11 06:12:30 PM Link | Quote

Yeah, I have to say, that kind of seems to contradict how even matter in general works, and it hasn't even been published, so I think I'm going to be skeptical here as well.

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Posted on 01-24-11 06:31:50 PM (last edited by misterj at 01-24-11 04:16 PM) Link | Quote

I WANT TO BELIEVE

and don't. Yet. But this is cool as fuck, that's for sure.

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Posted on 01-24-11 08:27:52 PM Link | Quote
I'd like to think that an award-winning scientist would know better than to hastily make claims after an experiment and not test to make sure it wasn't contamination or a fluke.


I look forward to hearing where this leads.

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Posted on 01-24-11 09:28:07 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Peardian
I'd like to think that an award-winning scientist would know better than to hastily make claims after an experiment and not test to make sure it wasn't contamination or a fluke.

Me too; but I also know of people who let success get the better of them. They start thinking they're infallible juggernauts and forget that they're human too. Is this guy this way? I don't know.

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Posted on 01-25-11 12:51:48 AM Link | Quote
I love how everyone rushes to offer their opinion on what is actually happening before they even read the paper. Come on, let's wait and see what it says.
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Posted on 01-25-11 01:27:43 PM Link | Quote
I'm gonna remain skeptical and say that the pure water test tube was contaminated. Of course, if they can repeat this test, that is gonna be so awesome

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Posted on 01-25-11 07:32:27 PM Link | Quote
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I think it's too early to really judge whether this is useful information--or even true. :p

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Posted on 01-26-11 12:23:12 PM Link | Quote
I'm going to put myself in a large test tube and wait a month. If I turn and see another me staring back from the other test tube, it either worked, or I've finally reached hallucination point.

And believe me, I'm not far off.

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Posted on 01-26-11 02:21:38 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Zero One
I'm going to put myself in a large test tube and wait a month. If I turn and see another me staring back from the other test tube, it either worked, or I've finally reached hallucination point.

And believe me, I'm not far off.


Doesn't pregnancy alone take NINE months, let alone looking however old you are...

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Posted on 01-27-11 03:39:49 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Viola
Originally posted by Zero One
I'm going to put myself in a large test tube and wait a month. If I turn and see another me staring back from the other test tube, it either worked, or I've finally reached hallucination point.

And believe me, I'm not far off.


Doesn't pregnancy alone take NINE months, let alone looking however old you are...


So I mess with the space/time continuum a bit. No problem.

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Posted on 01-27-11 06:09:10 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Zero One
I'm gonna remain skeptical and say that the pure water test tube was contaminated.


How is this "skeptical"?
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Posted on 01-27-11 06:12:10 AM Link | Quote
DNA gets into goddamned everything (and I do mean everything. Getting 'pure' water is difficult if you actually intend to use it in any fashion whatsoever)

Until this gets the review peered out of it, I am about as sceptical as it gets.
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Posted on 01-27-11 06:31:37 AM Link | Quote
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Originally posted by Xenesis
DNA gets into goddamned everything (and I do mean everything. Getting 'pure' water is difficult if you actually intend to use it in any fashion whatsoever)


Makes sense when the missing link is all the humans doing the experiment are... made out of it. :p

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Posted on 01-28-11 12:31:42 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Kles
Originally posted by Zero One
I'm gonna remain skeptical and say that the pure water test tube was contaminated.


How is this "skeptical"?


How is this NOT skeptical?

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