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Gabu

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Posted on 01-13-11 12:32:26 AM Link | Quote
...is confusing when you're only just reading it and have no idea what [ɛə] is supposed to sound like, let alone how single words are supposed to sound like as bonafide official American English.

In short I somehow ended up reading this, got a headache, then watched this and then I had some understanding.

I don't say block as black or bus as boss, though. I hear things like this in the 'preps' a lot, though. :I

Spun off of probably the third conversation about pronunciation I had with Auxiliatrix.

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Posted on 01-13-11 12:54:55 AM Link | Quote
I know quite a bit about how to read the IPA - but I don't think I'm 100% accurate even with vowels you find in English, as Spanish is my first language and we only have 5 vowels there.

The fact that English stuffs so many vowel sounds into 5 (6 if you count the y) vowel letters is what makes it so hard to reform English spelling.

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Posted on 01-13-11 12:58:32 AM Link | Quote
If anything though that third vowel shift applies to me. Dawn is like yawn, and ecetera.

Also, CAR-mel, OR-inj (with the i almost cut off so it's like a syllable and a half or something), OW-wl, and probably a lot more once I can think of them.

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Posted on 01-13-11 03:34:10 AM Link | Quote
I pronounce Don the same as Dawn, and Mary the same as both merry and marry. I was rather surprised to learn that a lot of people distinguish those words

Also, I tend to say words as 2 syllables instead of one, when it's some diphthongal vowels followed by L or R. Like, "fair" is just 1 syllable to me, but "fail" is 2, and both "wire" and "while" are 2 syllables for me.

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I'm from a peculiar region of California that has almost no accent. Occasionally I may clip syllables off of words or something, but not much else.

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Posted on 01-13-11 05:40:06 AM Link | Quote
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My pronunciation isn't anything special. It's pretty flat and definite, other than dropping syllables when it's moe convenient.

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Posted on 01-13-11 07:38:34 AM (last edited by misterj at 01-13-11 04:39 AM) Link | Quote
/faɪə(ɹ/
fire. one syllable.

I hate this word with a burning passion for that.

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Posted on 01-13-11 04:25:46 PM Link | Quote
I've studied the IPA a bit and I can honestly say it gets to points where it's too open to interpretation in some places and some people say things a little bit differently.

Then again, I was using it to do things in a poetic sense, so that's probably why.

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Now try reading up on the different British accents and their pronunciations.

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Posted on 01-13-11 04:36:36 PM Link | Quote
Oh dear God no, Peardian. I'm done learning about this for a while, unless it comes up in grad school. XD

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Posted on 01-14-11 01:17:55 AM Link | Quote
Dividing words into syllables is perhaps the most challenging thing English has to offer, in my opinion. For example, the IPA for onomatopoeia tells me it only has 3 syllables, and it's divided " ono-mato-poeia".

Schwas have ruined English, syllable division is so straightforward in many other languages
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Posted on 01-14-11 03:14:24 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by FieryIce
For example, the IPA for onomatopoeia tells me it only has 3 syllables, and it's divided " ono-mato-poeia".
Those IPA stress symbols are not syllable separators; onomatopoeia has six syllables. Written in IPA, it's /ˌɑːnəˌmɑːtəˈpiə/ which separates into /ˌɑː - nə - ˌmɑː - tə - ˈpi - ə/ in my dialect of English. (I'm fairly certain it's six syllables in other dialects, but I am not a linguist.)

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