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Posted on 01-08-11 05:55:17 PM Link | Quote
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-12143774

Originally posted by BBC News
US congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords shot in Arizona

Gabrielle Giffords was regarded as a rising star in the Democratic Party

A US congresswoman and several other people have been shot at a public event in southern Arizona.

Gabrielle Giffords, a Democratic member of the US House of Representatives, was shot in the head at close range in front of hundreds of people.

A spokeswoman denied earlier reports that she had died and told ABC News she was in surgery.

A man was arrested after the shooting at a supermarket in Tucson where Ms Giffords was meeting constituents.

Members of her staff were among up to 12 other people who were also shot.

Ms Giffords, 40, who represented the eighth district of Arizona in the House, was married to space shuttle astronaut Mark Kelly.

She served on several congressional committees, including those covering the armed services and foreign affairs.

Jeff Rogers, chairman of the local Democratic Party, said Ms Giffords was "a rising star" in the Democratic Party with hopes of eventually winning the Arizona Senate seat.

"That is terrible news," he told BBC News, describing her as "a wonderful congresswoman and a wonderful person".

He added: "We just can't continue to have this kind of carnage on school campuses and against public officials."


So far it's extremely unclear whether or not Giffords is dead or undergoing surgery - there are several conflicting reports that are changing constantly. The last I heard, MSNBC and the BBC both changed their reports from "shot dead" to "shot", while a Tucson radio station is saying that she died in hospital.

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Posted on 01-08-11 06:02:20 PM (last edited by devin at 01-08-11 03:05 PM) Link | Quote
Something particularly of interest is that Gabrielle Giffords was one of the representatives targeted by Sarah Palin's Take Back the 20 initiative:
On March 23, when Obamacare was signed into law, I launched my “Take back the 20” campaign, focusing on 20 congressional districts that John McCain and I carried in 2008 which are or were represented by members of Congress who voted in favor of Obamacare. They need to be held accountable for those votes. They voted for Obamacare. Now we can vote against them. We need to replace them with representatives who will respect the will of the people.


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3911100/fuuuck.jpg
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Yes, those are crosshairs on that map. I'm not trying to accuse anyone of being responsible for this incident, especially this early after the fact, but it's a pretty damning coincidence all the same. (After the story of Giffords' shooting broke, the Take Back the 20 website was down within minutes, not surprisingly.)

Also, this:



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Posted on 01-08-11 06:57:22 PM Link | Quote

That last image is just... good lord, that's unfortunate.

Hopefully she manages to pull through.

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Posted on 01-08-11 07:02:10 PM Link | Quote
Holy shit.

The extremist right-wing morons seem to stop at nothing to seize power these days. Not all of "the people" want to live in your idealized plutocratic fascist dictatorship Poor people deserve to be healthy too.

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Posted on 01-08-11 07:07:04 PM (last edited by Gabu at 01-08-11 04:11 PM) Link | Quote
At this point I think it'd be more beneficial if the country just split up and in 20 years see how each side is faring. Because if these people are so apeshit bananas about wanting a country to be run their way, then to just GTFO to some group of states and secede. Good riddance.

Of course then again I'm kinda grumpy so whatever works works. I'm not in the mood for Civil War 2: This Time It's Not Civil War 1.

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Posted on 01-08-11 07:10:36 PM Link | Quote
I've agreed with Gabu for a while. The USA seems more and more to be the DSA (Divided States of America). Let the far-right theocrats have their hellhole and give the rest of us our country back.

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Posted on 01-08-11 07:19:28 PM (last edited by Gabu at 01-08-11 04:20 PM) Link | Quote
I really wish the phrase 'Please stop' could be used and everyone took it for serious.

But then it wouldn't work and also I think it's being used already.



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Posted on 01-08-11 07:27:22 PM Link | Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uRjwPWaxiY Video from the shooter, rip and distribute it. Needs to be seen to the public.
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Posted on 01-08-11 07:32:40 PM Link | Quote

Originally posted by oaa
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uRjwPWaxiY Video from the shooter, rip and distribute it. Needs to be seen to the public.

He has other videos as well... and I am unable to really make any sense of it at all.

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Posted on 01-08-11 07:35:18 PM Link | Quote
Press conference from the hospital.

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Posted on 01-08-11 07:56:51 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Imajin
Originally posted by oaa
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uRjwPWaxiY Video from the shooter, rip and distribute it. Needs to be seen to the public.

He has other videos as well... and I am unable to really make any sense of it at all.


Same. Sounds like nonsensical gobbletygook the way he's presenting it. Oh God I'm illiterate shame on the democrats.

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This is what happens when "2nd Amendment remedies" are advocated so much; stupid. Had that man figured to simply campaign for the person he wanted, no one would have to die and he could help 'take it back' the legit way.

Now that he introduces murder into it though, he and his right-wing pals are in trouble, at least until the corporate media decides to pretend he was the only person in on it and that everyone else is blameless.

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Posted on 01-08-11 10:14:00 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by devin
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That is absolutely disgusting.

I am so f*cking sick of Palin and all the other far-right nutjobs stinking up this country. I can't take this crap anymore!

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Posted on 01-08-11 10:45:32 PM (last edited by Kles at 01-08-11 07:48 PM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by Waffle Ryebread
Originally posted by devin
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That is absolutely disgusting.

I am so f*cking sick of Palin and all the other far-right nutjobs stinking up this country. I can't take this crap anymore!

It's funny, because I see a lot of right-wing people calling him a radical leftist socialist. Reactionary labels based on coincidental graphics and quote snippets are what is causing America to fall into a ridiculous political quagmire. Stuff like this is why the rift is widening between political beliefs, and it's absolutely not productive. Let's wait until the guy says why he did it, shall we?
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Posted on 01-08-11 10:58:35 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Gabu
At this point I think it'd be more beneficial if the country just split up and in 20 years see how each side is faring. Because if these people are so apeshit bananas about wanting a country to be run their way, then to just GTFO to some group of states and secede. Good riddance.

I nominate we push them all into former confederacy states and have those guys secede again.

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Originally posted by Kles
It's funny, because I see a lot of right-wing people calling him a radical leftist socialist. Reactionary labels based on coincidental graphics and quote snippets are what is causing America to fall into a ridiculous political quagmire. Stuff like this is why the rift is widening between political beliefs, and it's absolutely not productive. Let's wait until the guy says why he did it, shall we?


The guy says why he does it

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The guy was just a sad, disturbed crazy person.

I still find the Palin crosshairs thing despicable, but it doesn't seem related to this incident.

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Yes. He's more or less just crazy.

His stuff is all over the place... though on the same page, causes me to wonder what role the media may have had on influencing his insanity, especially with his ranting about the Gold Standard and such.

The problem is that this is a perfectly good moment to address why implied violence is not a good thing to use in campaigns, but instead will get into mudslinging and conspiracy theories. But then again, that's what the good ol' media is for: muddling the truth.

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Originally posted by Katelynn
Originally posted by Gabu
At this point I think it'd be more beneficial if the country just split up and in 20 years see how each side is faring. Because if these people are so apeshit bananas about wanting a country to be run their way, then to just GTFO to some group of states and secede. Good riddance.

I nominate we push them all into former confederacy states and have those guys secede again.


B-B-But what about Anya?

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There would be evacuation measures put into place before the inevitable secession, war, and parking lot creation.

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