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G.O.P. Vows to Cut Spending and Roll Back Health Care Bill
Congressional Republicans vowed Sunday to use their new majority in the House and their stronger position in the Senate to roll back the Obama administration’s health care overhaul and press for sharp, rapid cuts in spending.
“As part of our pledge, we said that we would bring up a vote to repeal health care early,” Representative Fred Upton of Michigan, the incoming chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, said on “Fox News Sunday.” He added, “That will happen before the president’s State of the Union address,” expected in late January.
A flat-out repeal of the health care law would face a steep hurdle in the Senate, where Democrats will cling to a slim majority, but Mr. Upton said that House action would not be merely symbolic.
“If we pass this bill with a sizable vote, and I think that we will, it will put enormous pressure on the Senate to do perhaps the same thing,” he said. “But then, after that, we’re going to go after this bill piece by piece.”
Mr. Upton also said the House could use the Congressional Review Act to roll back the Environmental Protection Agency’s sweeping regulations of climate-altering gases from factories and power plants. The first phase of the regulations began Sunday. Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina, said on NBC’s “Meet the Press” that the fight over health care would most likely be waged in Congress by cutting financing for implementation, and in state capitals by fighting the law’s new requirements.
“I think you’re going to see the fight on Obamacare across the board in the House and the Senate to try to de-fund the Obamacare bill and to start over,” Mr. Graham said, adding that he was working with Senator John Barrasso, a Wyoming Republican, on legislation to allow states to opt out of the requirement that individuals obtain health insurance and of the expansion of Medicaid, the government health insurance program for the poor.
Going into the spring, Congress will face two major spending-related fights: a vote to extend a continuing resolution to finance the operations of the government, and a vote to raise the ceiling on the public debt. Tea Party activists have vowed to use the votes to make a point about the need for fiscal discipline.
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And of course it can only get worse in the future, with the census results and recent state legislature results being what they are... 
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Originally posted by Imajin And of course it can only get worse in the future, with the census results and recent state legislature results being what they are... 
Yes, the census was definitely very disappointing. I'm optimistic about various nearby states (Maryland and New York for example) but PA could only get worse IMO ...  |
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| Posted on 01-02-11 11:29:47 PM (last edited by FieryIce at 01-02-11 08:30 PM) |
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Originally posted by Xenesis I must admit, I don't understand what Americans have against health care.
It's an individualistic culture that dictates that "if you can't afford it, you don't deserve it."
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Unfortunately, America is not very good at tests, so I expect legislation that will pretty much go "All poor people go to straight to die, do not use hospital"
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Well, that's a genius move, isn't it? What's wrong with good healthcare?
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The main concern is that "Obamacare" will end up reducing the quality of health services, and in the long run, reduce the amount of competent medical personnel available; with less money going into the hospitals over time, eventual salary cuts for the staff are pretty much a guarantee. The fear is that with fewer healthcare professionals and a possible drop in the quality of training, there will be more lawsuits against doctors and hospitals, higher costs to maintain/replace equipment and buildings, and eventually a general desire by the injured to forgo visiting any medical center at all, gradually draining funds, until we end up with basically a bunch of crappy, nigh-useless public places and an "elite" group of privately-run institutions remaining that no one will be able to afford anyway.
In addition there have been a ton of unrelated stipulations in the bill that don't need to be there. Certain states are completely exempt, for example. Earmarks for unrelated causes, as you might find in almost any legislation these days. It needs cleaned up. There are good things about it and certainly good intentions behind it, but it still probably needs reworked.
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The main issue I have with the Republicans' approach is not necessarily "The 2010 health care law is perfect and holy and how dare they touch it", but that their approach seems to be to repeal it without a real replacement plan in place, essentially just returning to the status quo.
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Well, if it's just a complete repeal they're after, I don't think this would survive the Senate (only 41 senators need to be against it just to filibuster so ) and even if it passes the senate, I don't think Obama would actually sign it... |
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Originally posted by Imajin The main issue I have with the Republicans' approach is not necessarily "The 2010 health care law is perfect and holy and how dare they touch it", but that their approach seems to be to repeal it without a real replacement plan in place, essentially just returning to the status quo.
Not just that, but loudly shouting from the rooftops that "We have the best healthcare in the world."
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