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Rick
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Posted on 12-08-10 08:26:13 PM Link | Quote
Another Cyberbullying Thing

I personally think that what these kids did to this kid is absolutely horrible and ridiculous. What kind of sick, twisted kid thinks it's perfectly okay to do this to another kid just to make them look like shit or give them a horrible rap?

I'm glad the kid's parents did something about this, but GRARGH. This makes me hate school more than ever. I'm glad Myspace, Facebook and that shit didn't start coming around as popular until after I graduated.

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Posted on 12-08-10 09:06:42 PM Link | Quote
Probably, but I'm just biased and bitter because I got picked on horribly in my high school days. I always figured they knew what they were doing.

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Posted on 12-08-10 09:20:01 PM Link | Quote

I''m glad that Facebook wasn't around when I was in middle or elementary school, as it stands I remember my AIM account was hacked into ("hacked into" == "they guessed my extremely insecure password") by a classmate once... but that's a lot easier to change than someone going around with a fake account.

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Screw the official way of doing these things. If my child was being cyberbullied, I'd hunt down the person who did it, break into their computer, and destroy all of their data--and leave a note saying I'd be coming for them next if they wanted to continue that behavior.

The laws and the officials can't do diddly squat. They don't know how to treat the internet. If dumb kids want to do bullying on the internet, then they need to be taught that they're not safe either--and that older, much more experienced beings will not tolerate them.

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Posted on 12-09-10 03:03:35 PM Link | Quote
It should be the law that if it happens, you lose ALL Internet access for at least a year.

Plus, if somebody started cyberbullying me and I found out who it was, there wouldn't be an intact bone left in his body when I'd be done with him.

Originally posted by Rick
but I'm just biased and bitter because I got picked on horribly in my high school days.


Me too, and I was simply unable to defend myself. 3 months ago, when I left scondary school, I swore that I'd never let myself feel vulnerable again and that I'd start breaking noses. When you consider the size of me (HUGE), no force on Earth would stop me. One of my friends commented that they looked up to me because I refuse to take shit from anybody anymore.

Originally posted by Metal_Man88
Screw the official way of doing these things. If my child was being cyberbullied, I'd hunt down the person who did it, break into their computer, and destroy all of their data--and leave a note saying I'd be coming for them next if they wanted to continue that behavior.


This too. I wouldn't let anybody feel as vulnerable as I did.

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Posted on 12-09-10 03:52:49 PM Link | Quote
I generally advocate a zero-tolerance policy on bullying. I grew up being the elementary school punching bag, literally. Especially on the school bus because supervision was poor (the only adult was the driver, who had to focus on actually driving the bus rather than watching the kids). I'd get on the bus home and bullies would sit by me and hit and pinch and punch me all the way home. It even continued into high school with people throwing wads of paper and small-denomination coins at me. Sometimes right in class. I didn't get much reprieve until college, and even then I occasionally had trouble with fundies and such, although not physical at least. More like idiots proclaiming that atheists cause all the world's problems or that lesbians should be raped into becoming straight (I'm an atheist lesbian, in case you didn't know.)

Sure, I may be a behemoth now at 6'1" and 180 lbs (without even being fat; I'm just really big-boned), but I was generally one of the youngest kids in my grade, so I was surrounded by bigger people. They'd make fun of everything. I remember some kids making fun of me for liking vanilla ice cream and cheddar cheese. WTF?

Public school was a nightmare for me.

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Posted on 12-09-10 04:13:48 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Terra
I remember some kids making fun of me for liking vanilla ice cream and cheddar cheese. WTF?


I got bullied because I said I like Pringles. Therefore, my new nickname was Pringle. And I swear, if I hear that name one more time, they're fucked.

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Posted on 12-09-10 04:28:51 PM Link | Quote
Yeah, I had other things, too. I was the bizarre kid who would work on computer programming stuff after finishing tests and such. Also, I was one of the only people who never got into nü-metal and post-grunge, the genres of choice at my high school (oddly, few people liked hip-hop even though it's usually associated with high schoolers, although later a lot of people liked Eminem and Fitty garbage). At the time, I liked stuff like Janet Jackson, J-Lo, Nelly, and so on. Everyone else was into Staind, Korn, and Limp Bizkit, which I thought was about as musical as radio static.

Plus I was a liberal in a very conservative village, a transplant from NYC/Buffalo suburbs in a small rural community where most families were there for generations, a wealthy-ish family in a poor area, and so on. I didn't fit in at all.

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Posted on 12-09-10 04:41:50 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Terra
Plus I was a liberal in a very conservative village, a transplant from NYC/Buffalo suburbs in a small rural community where most families were there for generations, a wealthy-ish family in a poor area, and so on. I didn't fit in at all.


I looked and acted different. Apparently, that's the perfect excuse for 12 years of TORTURE.

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Posted on 12-09-10 10:34:27 PM Link | Quote
Yeah I have been in pretty much the same stinkhole too being bullied. And I'm so sick and tired of schools and parents not taking it serious, it's not okay for grown up to do it, and it certainly should not be okay for kids to do it. :/

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Posted on 12-09-10 10:38:16 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Terra
I generally advocate a zero-tolerance policy on bullying.
Dangerous term to use, even if you didn't mean the connotations. Zero-tolerance policies tend to get applied to the victims just as much as the aggressors, which is... kinda bad.
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Posted on 12-10-10 12:48:48 AM Link | Quote
Well, I read the main part of the article then skimmed the rest, I mean tl;dr dude, but I must say that people do over-react to "cyber-bullying" these days. Calling somebody names in text on a computer screen is 30x less intimidating than saying it to their face, which still isn't intimidating in the least, I mean it's name calling. However parents should be expected to know things about how the internet works and a general sense of what their child is doing on there. Hovering over you child's shoulder whilst their on the computer, constantly asking, "what's that?, who's this?, why do you go here?" is just annoying and would turn the child off, which is not the desired effect.

I myself don't use Facebook or any social networking site, because anonymity on the internet is completely dead. Lots of people online know my first name, but none know my last, unless they know me in real life. Lots of people know the state/country I live in, but not the town or the address of my house. It's up to kids to not be retarded on the internet, and it's up to parents to not ignore their kids when their using the internet, especially social networking sites where personal information is a core essential of the site.
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Posted on 12-10-10 01:03:18 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Zild
Well, I read the main part of the article then skimmed the rest, I mean tl;dr dude, but I must say that people do over-react to "cyber-bullying" these days. Calling somebody names in text on a computer screen is 30x less intimidating than saying it to their face.



The problem is that, well, let's just make some quick assumptions;

1. Your family/friends know about your account here, and periodically follows your posting (without you being entirely aware)

2. One of them manages to get your password or a billion other possibilities in which you aren't in control of it for a while.

It is now absolutely trivial for them to post really nasty things. All they have to do is spread the news of where your account is, and then everyone knows where you're posting, and can freely read whatever they wrote about you -- probably something nasty, but believable. (Probably something about being gay or doing some embarrassing sex acts, but.)


Now imagine this is something like Facebook, where it's likely a lot of your `friends` are already able to see what you're talking about, and your name is easily searchable. The potential for damage there is insane... And that's not even counting the various other ways (register the same name and pretend to be you/friend people long enough to get attention, then start doing bad shit; register as someone else in the school and try to goad you into saying things; etc)


It's the same thing as, say, walking around with a gun. People may over-react at the thought, but it can easily escalate into something much worse.


(Jesus Christ this was a long post)

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There's a very good reason why Facebook has the options available to report accounts for false identity, misuse or various other wrong-doings. The child being "bullied" (cyber-bullying is a very weak form of bullying, however you look at it) KNEW they had a fake account with him, but he chose to do nothing about it. He has had plenty of opportunities to tell his parents, look it up himself and to contact Facebook support about it. If he was seriously having that much grief over the issue, he would have done something about it sooner.

Now, I did skim over this because it's fucking long, but what I did glance at just screamed at me "If this was real life I'd be dead by now."

But online bullying can be more psychologically savage than schoolyard bullying...


Are you fucking kidding me? You think having your arm slashed at with a pocket knife is less psychologically savage than

"It's not the swear words," Inspector Brunault said. "They all swear. It's how they gang up on one individual at a time. 'Go cut yourself.' Or 'you are sooo ugly' — but with 10 u's, 10 g's, 10 l's, like they're all screaming it at someone."


Or how about just something simple like being punched in the face? Or having people force you to meet them after school to have a fight in-front of the entire school?

I'm not even going to comment on how over-the-top the whole article is.

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It also mentioned that Facebook only implemented the means it has to deal with false identity AFTER this women made a stink about it, unless I'm understanding the article incorrectly.
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Hmm, this has me thinking I should make a Facebook account again just so it's there. Never actually use it because fuck Facebook, but have it just to prevent this kind of nonsense.

I went through basically the same fun times as Terra describes, but I completely disagree on the zero-tolerance idea. My high school used that for a while. It didn't prevent anything; it just meant that any attempt to defend myself (even from physical violence) was punished. Now instead of attacking someone and hoping they don't fight back, we'll attack someone and know that if they fight back at all, they get in shit too! (And then we'll just BS our way out of any accusations anyway...)

It was the same nonsense throughout. They'd say don't fight, just tell a teacher. But when you do? They didn't see anything. No help at all. In for a penny, in for a pound - I learned that I could either sit and take it or fight back. Thanks to zero tolerance, clever lies, and staff who just didn't give a fuck, I'd be in just as much trouble either way, but at least if I fended them off well enough, they wouldn't come back.

I got to taste some cyber-bullying too, mostly secondhand, when someone broke into a friend's email and spread embarrassing personal messages around. Fortunately, I had been learning how to hack games by then, and the computers were so pathetically obsolete that you basically had to disable the resource-hogging security software to get anything done.

It may be a different playing field, but the same tactics apply. Learn to defend yourself.

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Posted on 12-12-10 01:24:14 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Kit
I'm not even going to comment on how over-the-top the whole article is.


It's not OTT at all. The psychological harm is devastating. I've barely even started recovering from my 12 years of hell. At least I knew that, at the end of the day, I'd have 18 hours of time away from the dumb shits. If they could've reached me at anytime over the Internet, I probably wouldn't be here right now.

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