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Posted on 09-27-07 03:56:59 AM; last edit by Hectamatatortron on 09-27-07 03:58 AM

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32 bit registers pwn the shit out of 8 bit registers.

42=255

Edit:

Subtract 42 from both sides

0=213

Divide both sides by 213/43

0=43

Subtract one from both sides

-1=42

Interesting predicament.

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Posted on 09-27-07 04:08:06 AM

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Originally posted by HyperHacker
As we all know, the question is "2B or not 2B", and the answer is 42. (0x2B | ~0x2B) = (0x2B | 0xD4) = 0xFF = -1. Thus, -1 = 42.

Combine that with the proof that 1 = 2 and you can prove that 42 = both -1 and -2...

I wonder what other revelations are possible...

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Posted on 09-27-07 01:11:31 PM

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Originally posted by Ran Yakumo
Originally posted by HyperHacker
As we all know, the question is "2B or not 2B", and the answer is 42. (0x2B | ~0x2B) = (0x2B | 0xD4) = 0xFF = -1. Thus, -1 = 42.

Combine that with the proof that 1 = 2 and you can prove that 42 = both -1 and -2...

The "proof" that 1 = 2 is flawed.

Anyways, we can say that 42 = -1 or -127 or 255 or NaN or a bazillion different things depending on the number of bits we want.

Hyperhacker, thanks for spoiling it.

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Posted on 09-27-07 02:16:24 PM

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Then there's my post, which proves that if anything equals something other than itself, it equals everything else, too. And everything else equals it. And everything else, by syllogism.

But the universe hasn't comploded yet, so I think that proves that -1!=42 right there.

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Posted on 09-27-07 07:16:01 PM

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I think 42 = 42.

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Posted on 09-27-07 07:42:58 PM

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Originally posted by Hectamatatortron
32 bit registers pwn the shit out of 8 bit registers.

42=255

Yes, I was going to point out that the specifics would be different in 32-bit, but the result would be the same anyway.

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Originally posted by Hectamatatortron
But the universe hasn't comploded yet, so I think that proves that -1!=42 right there.

-1! can't equal 42, because you can't have the factorial of -1. (Yes, I know you meant not equal to)

Me, I'm still trying to add infinity and 1.

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Posted on 10-07-07 01:24:59 AM

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Originally posted by comm128
Originally posted by Hectamatatortron
But the universe hasn't comploded yet, so I think that proves that -1!=42 right there.

-1! can't equal 42, because you can't have the factorial of -1. (Yes, I know you meant not equal to)

Me, I'm still trying to add infinity and 1.

Infinity plus one equals negative infinity- it just loops around, right?

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Posted on 10-07-07 01:29:48 AM

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Well, sometimes it looks like it (as in the graph for 1/x). Really, infinity is a mathematical concept but not a number. If it were a number, you could say stuff like:
∞ + 1 = ∞ + 2
(subtracting ∞ from both sides)
1 = 2

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Posted on 10-07-07 06:02:25 PM; last edit by Hectamatatortron on 10-07-07 06:11 PM

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My ARM floating point functions say that infinity + (positive number) = infinity.

I followed the 754 standard, it has to be right! D:

Unfortunately, they also say that infinity - infinity = NaN.

>.>

Also, 4! = 4*(next integer closest to one, repeat until *1)

So -1! could possibly maybe be -1*0*1 = 0?

0 = 42?

0*43/32 = 42*43/42?

-1 = 42?

I found a better one, though. Someone actually thought this was one of the valid proofs that 1 = .999... Yes, 1 does = .999..., but this is not why:

10x = 9.99999999...

Presume x = .9999...

10x-x = 9.999... - .999...

9x = 9

x = 1 = .999...; x = .999... is a valid solution.

But then wouldn't that mean that

10x = 9.5

x = .5 = 1, for x = (rvalue - (lvalue - x), as demonstrated by the previous proof?

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Posted on 10-07-07 06:37:55 PM; last edit by NightKev on 10-07-07 07:40 PM

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Originally posted by comm128
Well, sometimes it looks like it (as in the graph for 1/x). Really, infinity is a mathematical concept but not a number. If it were a number, you could say stuff like:
∞ + 1 = ∞ + 2
(subtracting ∞ from both sides)
1 = 2

Except, that's like saying "4 + 1 = 4 + 2" then, so your 1 = 2 fails. (If infinity is a number just like 3, then it works like a number)
@hectawhatever(your name is wtf): You're jumping all around everywhere and it's hard to know wtf your post is saying.

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Posted on 10-07-07 07:27:13 PM

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Originally posted by Hectamatatortron
I found a better one, though. Someone actually thought this was one of the valid proofs that 1 = .999... Yes, 1 does = .999..., but this is not why:

10x = 9.99999999...

Presume x = .9999...

10x-x = 9.999... - .999...

9x = 9

x = 1 = .999...; x = .999... is a valid solution.

But then wouldn't that mean that

10x = 9.5

x = .5 = 1, for x = (rvalue - (lvalue - x), as demonstrated by the previous proof?

Well, let's have a look:

1/9 = 0.1111111111...
Therefore:
9/9 = 0.9999999999...
However:
9/9 = 1

We know what 1/9 is, so we should know what 9/9 is. But calculating 9/9 gives a different answer.

For the same reason, where you said 9x = 9, it also equals 8.999..., depending on how you get your answer. And, 10x does not equal 9.5 unless you rounded somewhere along the way.

It's interesting to note that this problem doesn't happen in some number systems other than base-10, but who uses base-3?

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Originally posted by NightKev
Except, that's like saying "3 + 1 = 3 + 2" then, so your 1 = 2 fails. (If infinity is a number just like 3, then it works like a number)
@hectawhatever(your name is wtf): You're jumping all around everywhere and it's hard to know wtf your post is saying.

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Posted on 10-07-07 07:41:05 PM

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Originally posted by HyperHacker
Originally posted by NightKev
Except, that's like saying "3 + 1 = 3 + 2" then, so your 1 = 2 fails. (If infinity is a number just like 3, then it works like a number)
@hectawhatever(your name is wtf): You're jumping all around everywhere and it's hard to know wtf your post is saying.
*mandatory "3 IS NOT A NUMBER" comment*

Post edited.

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Uh, that's the point. It fails, because infinity isn't a number.

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I found another one.
You all know "7 8 9".
You are what you eat.
Therefore, 7 = 9.

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Posted on 10-11-07 01:38:41 AM

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Originally posted by HyperHacker
I found another one.
You all know "7 8 9".
You are what you eat.
Therefore, 7 = 9.

But if 7 8 9, 7 would gain the weight of 9, so wouldn't it actually be 7 > 9?
Or would you rather tell me what that Q.E.D. meant on the 2=1 page?

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