Jul -- The Cutting Room Floor: Super Mario Galaxy 1 & 2

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Posted on 10-07-10 12:33:49 PM (last edited by Techokami at 10-07-10 09:34 AM)

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Hey looks like some unused music tracks were found in SMG2
Unused Track 1
Unused Track 2
Unused Track 3

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So I just went through all the zones in SMG2. Out of them, it seems only two of them are unused. They were very organized this time.

EarthenPipeRoomEZone is one of the variations of the bonus room. All this one has are three item blocks. It wasn't referenced by any galaxy.

StaffUnbabaHomePlanetZone is a copy of the final planet zone in Melty Monster Galaxy, with a very similar name. As far as I can tell, it lacks the special effects of the other one, and in fact lacks everything but the planets themselves.

It would be neat if someone could verify these, but they aren't worthy of a video.

Fun Fact: Puzzle Plank Galaxy = Home Store Galaxy

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Posted on 11-09-10 11:45:03 PM

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Originally posted by Peardian
World Map: Theoretically, I guess it would be possible. The catch is that you'd basically see the regular world map scene, but the path the head follows would be that of World 8.

Cosmic Clone: Inferno could be used in a different way, so we can't say that for sure. I can't imagine they'd really have Mario clones made of fire.

Crate: Probably used.

Jewel: It could possibly be used, but the lack of textures hints otherwise.

Mecha-Koopa: No, they can be found in Flipsville Galaxy's second mission, as well as another Saturn-like planet.

Planet: That looks like Rollodillo's planet. Perhaps bdmview just isn't displaying the rest of the textures correctly.

Wing Block: It appears in many levels.

Cosmic Clones: Inferno has nothing to do woth fire or lava. They are probably called "Inferno" due to how trouble they cause Mario. If their internal name had "Hell" (excuse that word), then that would better fit the idea that they wre fire-related.

Crate: It is used in that section in Cloudy Court where you have to use a Cloud Flower to go upwards.

Also, I remember seeing a video on Youtube somtime in 2008/2009, that was called something like "SMG Concept Art", or something like that. I think it was removed by user or due to violation in late 2009/early 2010.

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Posted on 11-10-10 12:14:00 AM

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Originally posted by Peardian

CutTree

(Sorry for double post) Remeber when Miyamoto and Koizumi said that some things that were unused in SMG1 would be used in SMG2? The Cut Trees are unused in SMG1 (I think they are found in Wild Glide in SMG2), "flagsaveswitch" was probably supposed to be similar to the Checkpoint flags in SMG2, in interviews, it was revealed that the Spin Drill and Yoshi were originally planned to in SMG1.

About SMG2: It is unfortunate that the "E3Mov"s are empty, and that the beta mdoels have been completely replaced. We could have found tons and tons beta stuff! Even beta suff that was not revealed in trailers, pics, interviews, or articles! It would just be like SMG1 with all these exciting sttuuf *sigh*. Because of that, I am pretty sure that this thread will die out soon.

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Posted on 11-10-10 01:07:46 AM

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Well Nintendo has hidden alot of stuff in the game, just because the models are replaced don't mean that traces of previous data in the files aren't left in the coding. Knowing that, this thread may die out soon as beta info will be harder to find and nobody are expecting anyone to do anything

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Posted on 11-10-10 02:19:17 AM (last edited by Gunstar Green at 11-09-10 11:20 PM)

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	Originally posted by holyromanemperortatan Because of that, I am pretty sure that this thread will die out soon. Originally posted by vinnyboiler Knowing that, this thread may die out soon as beta info will be harder to find and nobody are expecting anyone to do anything Hey, could you guys take your pessimism elsewhere, please? ____________________

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Posted on 11-10-10 04:16:42 AM (last edited by Peardian at 11-10-10 01:17 AM)

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This thread has been receiving minimal activity for months now, so the only way it can go is up.

Anyway, I plan to systematically go through all of SMG2's models over Christmas break (starting on my birthday), so I'll post any discoveries I make then. In the meantime, we can try and get cracking at either the sound effects or sequences and see if we can find any goodies. I'm sure someone has figured out at least one of those by now.

Also, that tree is different from the one in SMG2.

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Posted on 11-10-10 06:57:55 PM

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Originally posted by Peardian

Anyway, I plan to systematically go through all of SMG2's models over Christmas break (starting on my birthday), so I'll post any discoveries I make then.

I am 50% sure that little or no beta discoveries involving SMG2 will be found. It is possible that leftovers from previous Main Series games such as SMG1 or NSMBW will be found, since a lot of stuff like Lumas, Black Holes, the Koopalings' Cake, and Checkpoint Flags from to previous games are used.

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Posted on 11-10-10 08:58:48 PM

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Originally posted by holyromanemperortatan
I am 50% sure that little or no beta discoveries involving SMG2 will be found.

Never say that kind of crap, because I've said it myself and have been easily disproven with other games.

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Posted on 11-10-10 10:02:43 PM (last edited by holyromanemperortatan at 11-30-10 07:12 PM)

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Originally posted by Xkeeper
Originally posted by holyromanemperortatan
I am 50% sure that little or no beta discoveries involving SMG2 will be found.

Never say that kind of crap, because I've said it myself and have been easily disproven with other games.

I guess I could be completely wrong, but you just never know.
Also, I thought Puzzle Plank was "Cut Timber", not "Home Store".
Another thing is that on Mario Wiki's SMG2/Beta Elements, it used to have a Media Summit pic of the "Yoshi Star Get", with a caption that says "The usused scenerary that was supposed to appear in Yoshi Star Galaxy." I eventually removed that from Mario Wiki, because the scenerary does appear in my game. I think that the user who put that down had a different version of the game than me. I thought I would this with you guys, because you guys could just check this to see if I'm right or wrong.

Originally posted by Treeki
I just noticed this on the wiki article...

I don't know if it's relevant or not, but that thing reminds me of the purple blob in SMG2 which expands into an electric circle on the ground (used in a few of the castles)

You mean the Fizzlits? I think the blob was supposed to trap in Mario (since it is made of birdlime), or could have acted like a Swoopin' Stu or the Mocina.

Originally posted by Peardian
Edit: Small SMG2 discovery. The outer shell of the main Sky Fleet planet has an unused low model, consisting of a tiny white cube. The model is named BarrelColonyOuterPlanetLow.

Could it be a remainder of Sky Island Galaxy's (the former Blue Grass Galaxy) Sky Fleet Ship in the E3 '09 version? I also noticed that if you point P1's Star Cursor at Sky Station's logo, then in the "world map's galaxy selection stats", you can see the Starting Planet, along with the Sky Fleet Ship in the background. The Sky Fleet Ship is seen at angle which is never seen on any part of the Starting Planet in any mission.

NSMBW thread: http://jul.rustedlogic.net/thread.php?id=11524
This should be a thread for beta NSMBW stuff, as this thread is to SMG1/2
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Posted on 11-30-10 10:17:10 PM

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Uh, bumps like that are frowned upon here

If someone wants to view an old thread, they just have to scroll down in the forum or access another page. Jul isn't that big that it would get lost.

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Posted on 11-30-10 11:19:14 PM

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Originally posted by holyromanemperortatan
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Uh, bumps like that are frowned upon here If someone wants to view an old thread, they just have to scroll down in the forum or access another page. Jul isn't that big that it would get lost.

But won't threads get locked if they become too old?

no, so stop doing it

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Posted on 12-26-10 08:36:59 PM (last edited by Peardian at 12-27-10 08:31 PM)

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Anyone recall the dice ever using these textures?

Edit: Why hello there, Whomp King.

Edit: Fun Fact: The two completely identical planets in Bowser's Lava Lair are separate models, as are their platforms. Named as A and B.

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Posted on 01-08-11 10:02:23 PM (last edited by Peardian at 01-08-11 07:03 PM)

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Found another minor boss-related thing. Thanks to a typo, King Lakitu (BossJugem) has an extra unused animation.

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This is an earlier animation for getting stunned by Star Bits. He jumps a little and his glasses seem to disappear inside his head. He checks his face for them, and returns to his normal waiting pose. You can tell it's from earlier in development, because he doesn't move his mouth at all.

Also, as a bit of trivia, King Lakitu will fall asleep if you leave the arena and stay out of it for a while. He wakes up when you return.

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Posted on 01-09-11 12:57:20 AM

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Originally posted by Peardian
Also, as a bit of trivia, King Lakitu will fall asleep if you leave the arena and stay out of it for a while. He wakes up when you return.

Haha.

That's great.

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Another discovery, albeit small. Yoshi has two animations with names including the words "E3Wait". I think he may have the E3 hatch-from-egg animation as well but I'm not positive.

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Posted on 01-22-11 05:04:10 AM (last edited by Peardian at 01-22-11 10:50 AM)

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Another small discovery. Melty Molten Galaxy's sky, VRSandwichSun, is left untouched in the game.

Oh, and Sky Station Galaxy's main Sky Fleet planet has a full rod modeled out for the propeller which extends halfway through the inside of the structure, with a semi-detailed end.

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Posted on 02-22-11 07:57:31 PM

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All the beta shots are on Mariowiki, in the gallery...

Also, does anyone know the name of this planet in the SMG1 ISO?

I'm the leader of a Super Mario Galaxy 2 hack and we're planning to have the peewee piranha boss fight on the gateway planet... but the Super Mario Galaxy ISO is kind of a mess and I can't find the .arc for the planet. Thanks for any help.

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Fortunately for you, I have every model in SMG1 catalogued and organized.

The planet is heavensdoormysteriousplanet, with related props being heavensdoorhousedoor and heavensdoorflowera. The tower that appears is heavensdoorappearstepa/after. If by chance you also wanted the fake version of this planet, it's scaledownrelayplanet.

Also, I asked skawo to make a video of the mysterious beta Starman enemies. Unfortunately, their damage level .brk files don't work, but we can at least see what their model looks like in action. Not sure how long it will be until the videos are ready.

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