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Posted on 08-30-10 11:45:01 PM

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Up 10bux per year, also known as about a dollar a month for year-long subscripts (more for less time, obviously).

Kind of stupid, especially when you consider they've been clogging up the dashboard with video ads.

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Posted on 08-31-10 12:28:00 AM

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And they try to reverse it on us by saying "Well you asked for more features!"

Yeah, I smell a little bullshit there.

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Posted on 08-31-10 01:28:28 AM

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Price increases are weird though... Canada's monthly rate goes up by $1 but the yearly rate stays the same; we were already paying $59/year, I think. Brings them in line.

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Posted on 08-31-10 03:18:53 AM

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	Here's my little rant on this $10 price increase. ____________________

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Posted on 08-31-10 03:38:16 AM (last edited by saturos at 12-29-11 01:09 PM)

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Posted on 08-31-10 04:22:22 AM

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1805

All of the automatically-renewing subscription goers are in for a surprise.

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Posted on 08-31-10 12:13:13 PM

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Shouldn't the costs for something like this server be getting cheaper? I mean, the servers they're using are probably half the cost they were back in 2005.

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Posted on 08-31-10 12:18:08 PM

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IIRC they even cut online server support for older games, no?

So to me it really makes no sense raising the price tag. :/

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Posted on 08-31-10 01:21:55 PM

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	Just another reason why I'm a PS3 guy... Sorry, I had to I don't quite get the rate hike, either. It seems like someone at Microsoft just thought one day, "Hmm, what can we get away with to bring in more cash? Lets slightly raise the XBL fees! Nobody will quit over $10 year!" And I like the new design at thegamefanatics, Anya. Tell your webmasters it looks really good. ____________________

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Posted on 08-31-10 03:34:34 PM

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pc gaming wins again

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Posted on 08-31-10 04:54:39 PM

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Originally posted by yde
pc gaming wins again

Bingo. Even when they shut down our servers, we have Direct-IP, or server emulators.

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Posted on 08-31-10 05:33:04 PM

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Well however they can get rich. I honestly see a lot of gamers who just don't give a fuck about their money and will throw out cash for anything even if it's ungodly expensive, and there's enough of these people where the trend won't die down anytime soon.

The server costs should be getting cheaper. However, they decide to add in the avatar things (and they'd probably have the gall to tell me that I wanted it when I didn't. I just wanted the ability to upload my own avatar pic for my gamer profile, thank you), and the video stuff that Xkeeper was talking about, and all the useless shit we don't need.

I'll probably just play on the PS3 a while until I have to give it up to the fella that really owns it. Then I'll be kinda screwed. =/

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Posted on 08-31-10 08:25:36 PM

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Originally posted by Lunaria
IIRC they even cut online server support for older games, no?

...that all depends on the fucking game developer that has to run servers for their games, not Microsoft.

And really, you are all miffed about a $10 increase for a yearly subscription?

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Posted on 08-31-10 08:27:09 PM

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Originally posted by cpubasic13
And really, you are all miffed about a $10 increase for a yearly subscription?

It wouldn't be anything worth getting frustrated with if it wasn't for the fact it came off as basically a total money grab. Especially after video advertising.

It just sounds like double dipping.

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Posted on 08-31-10 09:31:42 PM

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Originally posted by cpubasic13
And really, you are all miffed about a $10 increase for a yearly subscription?

Are you for or against companies randomly raising costs despite evidence saying that their fixed costs should be decreasing?

To defend it seems like blind fanboyism. Like defending Sony for removing OtherOS support, and Nintendo for having completely-fucking-pathetic online service and a 500MB "harddrive."

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	You guys know that the price of XBL is the same everywhere else but in America. Now that they raised the price by $10 a year, USA is now at the same price as Canada, Mexico, UK.... Also, we have ESPN and Hulu Plus coming soon. The ads are annoying but I do the same thing most other gamers do, skip and ignore them. I still like XBL over PsN and I used to be a Sony/Ps2 fangirl and anti-Xbox (thought it was a paper weight). If you're PO'ed about the increase, go out and buy some 12 month subscription cards. Check out sales on Amazon, New Egg and even Microsoft is promoting and running sales on XBL. Or just don't use XBL gold. ____________________

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Posted on 09-01-10 05:48:26 AM

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Originally posted by Shadic
Are you for or against companies randomly raising costs despite evidence saying that their fixed costs should be decreasing?

Citation? I'd like to see the numbers on increasing server load with more people getting 360s and more games and downloads needing to be hosted.

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Posted on 09-01-10 01:27:15 PM

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Originally posted by Shadic
Originally posted by cpubasic13
And really, you are all miffed about a $10 increase for a yearly subscription?

Are you for or against companies randomly raising costs despite evidence saying that their fixed costs should be decreasing?

To defend it seems like blind fanboyism. Like defending Sony for removing OtherOS support, and Nintendo for having completely-fucking-pathetic online service and a 500MB "harddrive."

What the hell.

Besides, what evidence? The only decreasing costs they might have is hardware cost. That is all. Putting servers online should actually get more expensive. You've got staff to pay (and these guys WILL ask for a raise). They have tons of stuff on XBLive. Also, bleh.

Note that I still don't like having to pay to play ANY Xbox games online.

As for the other part of your post: you sound incredibly ignorant there. Or just plain biased to death. How is the simple act of defending Sony for OtherOS crap blind fanboyism? If you just have no argument, I can understand. But stating that "defending X for action Y" is automatically fanboyism? Stupid.

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Posted on 09-01-10 02:04:05 PM (last edited by Shadic at 09-01-10 11:13 AM)

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Originally posted by Aerakin
Besides, what evidence? The only decreasing costs they might have is hardware cost. That is all. Putting servers online should actually get more expensive. You've got staff to pay (and these guys WILL ask for a raise). They have tons of stuff on XBLive. Also, bleh.

Servers cost less now than they did five years ago. They're also more efficient. And yes, adding people to the system will cost more. But you know what else happens when you get more customers? MORE INCOME. Not to mention the fact that they've recently killed support for all original Xbox titles, something that should be reducing overhead.

Originally posted by Aerakin
As for the other part of your post: you sound incredibly ignorant there. Or just plain biased to death. How is the simple act of defending Sony for OtherOS crap blind fanboyism? If you just have no argument, I can understand. But stating that "defending X for action Y" is automatically fanboyism? Stupid.

How is defending Sony for removing an advertised feature anything OTHER than fanboyism? Fucking fact of the matter is that there are people who bought it purely for the "OtherOS" feature, and more people who bought it with OtherOS being a factor in their decision. What is your justification for a company removing a feature? The security argument is bullshit - They've already hacked into Sony's system via the USB slot now. Are you going to defend Sony if they decide to put a software update that disables USB Ports, for "Security?"

Originally posted by Aerakin
Or just plain biased to death.

I'd like to know how I'm biased. Am I biased because I lost a feature on a system that I own? Am I biased because I own and enjoy playing on different consoles? I'll freely criticize any damn console I want. I'll bitch about DRM and boycott all PC titles Ubisoft puts out. I'll criticize Nintendo over their crappy online "support" and minuscule harddrive that's practically useless for more than two downloadable games, and any publisher that stupid shallow gameplay revolving around a controller that was updated more than halfway into its lifespan to work properly. And I'll certainly Microsoft pushing a console with an originally failure rate that could be pushing 50% in the original release, and for raising prices when it seems like they should be going down.

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