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Posted on 09-16-08 06:34:16 AM Link
I'm certain you can rip images from SM64DS, but I wasn't able to find the image I wanted, so I thought I should try myself.

The parts I want are the paintings; I want to be able to export them as a .png/.jpg/.bmp/etc. somehow so I can put them into SM64 (N64).


First of all, I tried opening the SM64DS .nds file in Tile Molester similar to what you would do with a .v64 or .z64 file, but that didn't work- it didn't have any of the textures/images from the game.

Then I used the NDS Header Tool to dump all of the files from the ROM, which was mostly comprised of .bin and .bmd files (which I assume are what I want for the paintings or other textures). I'm not sure of what to do with those files though.


So basically I want the images of the paintings from Super Mario 64 DS in a .png/.bmp/etc. form but I don't know how.

Help is greatly appreciated. I've already tried Google. Sorry if I posted in the wrong place.
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Posted on 09-16-08 09:40:38 AM (last edited by Raccoon Sam at 09-16-08 06:42 AM) Link
DS uses its own file system, viewable and dumpable from with several tools, the primary one being Tahaxan. Use it to locate 'suspicious' files, like "PAINTINGS.dif", or something blatantly (or even slightly) obvious, and try to locate a color table (respectively, it'd be "PAINTINGS.hfd").
Look inside the Graphics file with Tile Molester and see what you can get, then try to figure out the palette. Usually the DS palettes/Color lookup tables are very simple, and if you've got the latest version of Tile Molester specifications (ironically enough, by me), you can already read NCLR files, that are very common Palette files in several Nintendo DS games.
Please note that this is all an assumption of how the files inside SM64DS are. There may or may not be a PAINTINGS, hfd or dif files.

So basically just fool around and if you find anything interesting or hit a problem, be sure to reply again.

Or if you're lucky, Tahaxan already supports all the formats you need and you can just printscreen your way to freedom. Unless Tahaxan has an export PNG feature.
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Posted on 03-23-10 06:01:06 AM (last edited by mariofanatic64 at 05-06-10 06:20 AM) Link
if you want a really easy way, run SM64DS in an emulator, and face the painting head on and take a screenshot. Then get Toad's Tool 64, open a sm64 rom, click edit textures and export the painting textures to a folder. open said texture with paint, open the screenshot with paint, crop the painting out of the screenshot and paste them into the texture pic. save the texture and import it into SM64 with Toad's Tool 64.

Edit: why the n00b thing? seriously, people don't need to make things so complcated when you can just do it in an easier way.
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Posted on 03-23-10 07:47:20 AM (last edited by Friedslick6 at 03-23-10 04:51 AM) Link
I have previously tried to extract SM64DS textures, and have found there is currently only one known way of extracting the textures directly from the game. The answer lies on this very site, in this post.
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Posted on 03-23-10 09:35:48 PM Link
Keep in mind, my posts in that thread warning about bugs in Tile Molester still apply. Loading a palette will most probably give you colors that are slightly off.

(I can write a program to correctly convert the images to .bmp, if you'd like.)

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Posted on 03-24-10 05:43:26 AM Link
Originally posted by Joe
I can write a program to correctly convert the images to .bmp, if you'd like.

I for one favour this idea, texture extraction is one step towards importation, and it is always positive to see the possibilities of hacking broaden in any field. Also, these textures are the most recently revised copies of the previous textures, so people may prefer to use them over Nintendo 64 textures for future hacks...
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Posted on 03-25-10 03:23:15 AM Link
Well, things aren't looking too great at the moment.

The paintings are stored as complete 3D models in LZ-compressed BMD files.

These will take a bit longer to reverse-engineer than other graphics files I've come across so far.

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Posted on 03-25-10 06:09:08 AM Link
Originally posted by Joe
Well, things aren't looking too great at the moment.

The paintings are stored as complete 3D models in LZ-compressed BMD files.

These will take a bit longer to reverse-engineer than other graphics files I've come across so far.


NSMB uses NSBMD files. Maybe they are similar.
I found a specification here: http://sites.google.com/site/kiwids/nsbmd.html
however it's not complete, and i had to take a look at the source code of NSBMD viewer, a tool from the same guy that lets you view the models, textures included. It's on the Tahaxan forums.
Don't know if this will be any helpful. Most likely these are not the same format, but they could be similar.
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Posted on 03-25-10 06:29:14 AM (last edited by Tauwasser at 03-25-10 03:29 AM) Link
There's this Console Tool thread at RHDN, in which the author is building a tool that can view (and possibly edit) many Nintendo formats. He also finished some documentation on these formats; links in said thread.
It's really looking good, too, so you might get some stable info from him.

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Posted on 03-25-10 03:27:04 PM Link
Originally posted by Joe
Well, things aren't looking too great at the moment.

The paintings are stored as complete 3D models in LZ-compressed BMD files.

These will take a bit longer to reverse-engineer than other graphics files I've come across so far.

This thread is also from 2008..


I've always wanted to make a tool like that Console Tool Tauwasser pointed out, and I've had plans for it for a while, but I never really got around to it. I might try it some day.

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Originally posted by Treeki
This thread is also from 2008..
Really?

(I guess I shouldn't post when I'm tired.)

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I just had an idea! When you get all the textures you want extracted, why don't you upload to www.mfgg.net or www..textures-resource.com? This way, if anyone needs the DS textures, they can just go right there? Plus, in my opinon, these kinds of websites are dramatically lacking DS textures. Maybe I'm wrong, but whatever...just an idea.
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Originally posted by mariofanatic64
if you want a really easy way, run SM64DS in an emulator, and face the painting head on and take a screenshot. Then get Toad's Tool 64, open a sm64 rom, click edit textures and export the painting textures to a folder. open said texture with paint, open the screenshot with paint, crop the painting out of the screenshot and paste them into the texture pic. save the texture and import it into SM64 with Toad's Tool 64.

Edit: why the n00b thing? seriously, people don't need to make things so complcated when you can just do it in an easier way.
This is kinda like copying a movie by pointing a camera at the TV. You might get decent results with enough effort, but why bother when you can rip the data and get an exact copy?

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Posted on 08-07-10 07:34:27 AM Link
Why is this thread still getting bumped? The OP hasn't even visited the forum in 478 days!

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