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Posted on 09-16-07 08:48:03 PM Link | Quote
http://www.news.com/2100-1030-6207936.html?tag=tb
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Posted on 09-16-07 09:20:28 PM Link | Quote
Well this is a worrying sign...

If the logic is that a website can do whatever it wants to restrict people who go there (i.e., making it against the terms of service to use adblocking software, thus allowing prosecution of those who would), does that mean that re-registering on a message board where one has been banned would be similarly a legal offense?

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I would just like to mention that, unlike some things, I mostly agree with this, under a few conditions:

- The website itself is free (e.g., no "required membership"/"pay-to-use")
- The ads are not intrusive or interfere with normal website operation (e.g. not flashing or page-covering, bouncing, etc)

e.g., no annoyances. A good example of what I tolerate would be to take the ad at the bottom of the page and stick it somewhere on the page, maybe as an alternate banner. It doesn't bother me at all. It's when you replace it with a flashing/flash banner, that has sound or flashes all kinds of random colors.

Forbidding skipping of ads would be rather silly, anyway -- just look at a magazine. Often there are several pages of ads... would it be illegal to only read the ones with content, as opposed to being forced to read each and every page?

Commercials, however, I am all for skipping. We already pay for cable as it is, and getting advertisements on a paid service is dumb.


(I am rather divided, I guess.)

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Posted on 09-16-07 09:46:15 PM Link | Quote
Well, the internet isn't exactly "free" either... At least, I'm not aware of any free internet service providers anymore (I know there were a few ad-supported ones in the past, but I think they all went bust or became paid services)...

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Posted on 09-16-07 09:59:04 PM; last edit by HyperHacker on 09-16-07 10:05 PM Link | Quote
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Blocking the ad may be considered illegal.
Guess I'm breaking the law then.

As I've always said, if you want people to not block your ads, try not making your ads annoying. I started using ad blockers because of ads that would pop up, follow the mouse cursor, have no way to be closed, play sound, slow down the system etc. About the only form of ads I don't mind are the kind on this board, assuming it's showing the plain text links and not the BIG FUCKING TEXT this time.

"We don't want to go down a route that would seem adversarial at all," Zaneis said. "People are free to ignore ads, and they often do that, but when you have a third party blocking those ads, that's the real problem."
And just how are we free to ignore ads that scream, bounce around, bog down the system, and won't go the fuck away?

TV commercials are possibly the worst type of ad, save for adware, because...
-They can't be skipped, unless you're watching something pre-recorded, in which case you can speed them up but you still have to pay attention to see when they end.
-About 90% of the time, they're much, much louder than the actual show.
-They get more and more plentiful over time, eventually to the point where scenes are cut from the show itself to fit them, often at the expense of a joke or two.
-Some of them actually pop up OVER TOP OF THE SHOW ITSELF and have sound that drowns out the show's dialogue. These are, in almost every case, placed just such that they cover/drown out something important. These have also been gradually growing. I estimate we'll be seeing them cover the entire screen by next summer.

They're like having popups appear while you're reading something, cover the screen, and not be closeable for 5 minutes or so. >:[

I follow a simple rule when it comes to advertising: Don't buy from people who try to annoy me into buying things. It works nicely.


Oh yeah, and a related link. "An invention from Royal Philips Electronics prevents TV viewers from switching the channel during commercials or fast-forwarding past commercials when watching DVR content.

Viewers would be released from the freeze only after paying a fee to the broadcaster. The freeze would be implemented on a program-by-program basis, giving viewers a choice at the start of each one."

Particularly good quote:
So, why then, would a television manufacturer risk angering its consumer base? Philips says: Don't shoot the inventor.

With this technology, it was the company's intention to develop a new paradigm for the watching of on-demand television, not to force people to watch commercials, said Caroline Kamerbeek, communications director for Philips International.

But according to Philips' U.S. Patent No. 20060070095, the apparatus would do just that. The device:
"1) prevents a viewer of a direct (nonrecorded) broadcast from switching channels when an advertisement is displayed and (2) prevents a viewer of a recorded program from fast-forwarding the recorded program in order to skip past advertisements that were recorded with the program. A viewer may either watch the advertisements or pay a fee in order to be able to change channels or fast-forward when the advertisements are being displayed."

DRM at its finest. Sounds like I won't be buying from Philips anymore.

One of the comments points out something nice too: Channel surfing. You flip to a channel and whoops there's an ad playing, now you're forced to watch it even though you weren't watching the show.

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That Phillips invention is possibly one of the worst ideas I have ever heard... I fear for the future of television if that goes through, my guess is that it would result in a massive decrease in the number of people watching shows, especially on the smaller channels...

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Posted on 09-16-07 11:52:04 PM Link | Quote
1) They forgot that Opera has an ad-blocking feature too, but they're only blocking FireFox/ABP.
2) They're using Javascript to block FF/ABP users. The NoScript extension defeats that.
<insert RAAAAAEG here>

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Posted on 09-17-07 03:28:44 AM; last edit by HyperHacker on 09-17-07 03:29 AM Link | Quote
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Originally posted by KittyKev
2) They're using Javascript to block FF/ABP users. The NoScript extension defeats that.
<insert RAAAAAEG here>
Last I checked, it also does a user-agent check (hello User Agent Switcher), and uses a meta refresh to redirect you if Javascript is off (hello Escape key). Nevermind that the page takes so long to load, you can see it in its entirety before the redirect telling you "this page requires Javascript", nor that this makes it inaccessible to disabled readers who may be using specially-designed browsers that probably ignore scripts.

Or you can even just use Proxomitron to strip the ads, prevent it from knowing you use Firefox (hell, you can use it with any browser), and remove the redirect and Javascript all in one go.

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Drag's Post #218
If blocking ads is illegal, then so is blocking any kind of web page for any reason.

I block ads because some ads contain malware. For example, newgrounds had an advertiser that hijacked your homepage, so the next time you opened IE, it went to some dumb ad site that loaded 10 popups.

Not to mention, "CONGRATULATIONS! YOU'VE BEEN SELECTED TO WIN A FREE IPOD NANO!" when I'm browsing a page. These ads are just so dumb. It's my decision to block ads, who are you to tell me that I can't use my fucking web browser the way I want?

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See also: gigantic GIF banners that are made with no concern for bandwidth or processing power.
Originally posted by Drag
If blocking ads is illegal, then so is blocking any kind of web page for any reason.
Hey, I should tell my high school that.

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Posted on 09-17-07 04:52:21 AM; last edit by Kles on 09-17-07 04:52 AM Link | Quote
I'm just gonna copy and paste some AIM log: A bunch of these quotes are copied from some sites or Digg comments


Friend: With that little walk down memory lane over, let us focus on the issue at handWeb advertisement skipping technology. Essentially, it boils down to this: Web site designers depend upon advertising revenue to pay their bandwidth bills as well as to pay for the staff time that goes into making a successful site. Users do not particularly want to see advertisements, but except in a few cases where advertisements are extremely annoying, will for the most part put up with the ads in order to view the Web content that they are seeking.

There is a pretty big difference between the TV and Web site business models. A broadcast TV network, by and large, has fixed costs, no matter how many customers actually tune into the show. The same amount of electricity will flow to the TV transmitter, and the satellites above will still beam down the same number of 1s and 0s. Internet content is different, as each persons computer makes an individual connection to the remote server hosting whatever Web content the user is seeking. Each time users visit a Web site, the server consumes bandwidth to send the content of the Web page back to the userand that bandwidth costs money.

Thus, every time someone uses advertisement-blocking software to avoid the graphical ads embedded within a Web site, they are denying the Web site operator revenue that would otherwise have gone to pay for the bandwidth that is consumed during that browsing session.
Friend: In the end, a few things are clear: Users of advertisement-skipping technology are essentially engaged in theft of resources.

Since most web advertising is pay per click and not pay per view this is total bullshit, but I expect that a pay per click argument will result in this journalist telling me I am morally obliged to click on ads.

Fuck that.

Your business model is not my problem. It is my computer. It is my browser. Its not up to you to decide how I render your content. If you dont want me to view the content for free, then you should not place it on the web in a public location. Feel free to block me when my browser visits your site, but quit the whining.

Next up: Going to the bathroom during TV commercials is theft!
Friend: isn't it funny how the same dude has the best quotes?
Friend: "There has grown up in the minds of certain groups in this country the notion that because a man or corporation has made a profit out of the public for a number of years, the government and the courts are charged with the duty of guaranteeing such profit in the future, even in the face of changing circumstances and contrary to public interest. This strange doctrine is not supported by statute or common law. Neither individuals nor corporations have any right to come into court and ask that the clock of history be stopped, or turned back." -- Robert Heinlein, 1939
Friend: "I'll never bet against the internet again. That was a costly weekend in Vegas."
That Kles: Haha.
Friend: That and, though I don't really support these ad-blockers because they hurt web pages, I don't blame people for using them. The ad companies and websites who put ads on brought this on themselves. They should have seen this coming the second they invented pop ups pop-unders and those javascript pop-ups that move all over your screen. People understand the need for ads for the most part and will put up with them to a point. But when you use ads in such an annoying way people are going to find ways to ignore you. Especially when we are considering that it is a PC and PCs have an unlimited amount of modding options for just about any need you can think of. The ad companies and websites who run them need to think before they act.
That Kles: Yep.
That Kles: I think Google's AdSense is good.
Friend: it is. hence why google is like dont fuck with the internet.
Friend: but google doesn't create content.
Friend: they index it, which is one of the few things it takes a big company to do on the net
Friend: I imagine they are all working on making their entire page (text content and ads together) into a giant jigsaw of GIF images all hosted directly on their site in a single virtual directory all with random looking names so that we can't block anything.

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Hey, if configuring your browser to block the ad images is illegal, does that mean configuring it to not render images at all, or using a text-only browser, is illegal?

As I said before, the more someone annoys me, the less likely I am to buy from them. If an ad is annoying me, I block it, and perhaps just leave the site entirely. Otherwise, I generally leave it alone. Now, if your ad is annoying enough for me to block it, I'm sure as fuck not going to buy whatever it's advertising (from you anyway). Pretty simple logic eh? You aren't losing any money when I block your ads, because there was no way I would have clicked them in the first place. Now I can't be sure everyone follows this policy, but it seems like a good one to me.

As for pay-per-view* ads, same basic idea. If they're OK, then I leave them and you make some money. If they suck, I block them (sort of a "fuck you too"). For that matter, assuming the income from each view outweighs the cost of serving up the page it's on, it's a no-brainer: annoying ads = people won't stick around = less hits = less profit.

*There's gotta be a better name for these? Pay-per-view makes it sound like you're paying to see them, like with PPV movies.

I don't get why so few people seem to understand this. It's practically common sense. Do other people usually buy things if you annoy them enough? Is it just me that follows this policy?

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The only answer I can come up with is that for some warped reason, the advertising companies think their ads aren't annoying. They're horribly, horribly wrong, but that's the only way that it could make any sort of sense, either that, or they're idiots.

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Maybe they think people will just give up, and try clicking them in desperate hopes that it'll make them go away?
(Or, in the case of popups, they just don't care.)
Originally posted by TheGreatGuy
their idiots.
Irony.

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Originally posted by TheGreatGuy
The only answer I can come up with is that for some warped reason, the advertising companies think their ads aren't annoying. They're horribly, horribly wrong, but that's the only way that it could make any sort of sense, either that, or they're idiots.

I'm sure they realize they're annoying... I think they assume that something like this happens:

User: "Hey! This ad popped up in my face! How annoying! Wait a second, this seems like a product I would want! I am now inspired to make a purchase! Thank you, Pop-Up Ad!"

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Simplicity v1.1
Keep in mind, this faces the 'normal' group of people. The people that are STILL using Internet Explorer and Norton Antivirus. The people that buy it and use nothing but what came with their computer but are slowly starting to get the hint.

There are always going to be people (in effect, people like us) that are going to be ahead of the game, sure, but I think they're more worried about the other 80% of the population. Once they start figuring out the ad situation and MP3s and a bunch of other things, if they ever do, then they will likely have reason to worry.

I don't think it's really that big of an issue to worry about. Besides, if they do that in the States to someone I guarantee something will figure it unconstitutional or invading their rights or something along the lines.

In other words, if the net got more forceful about ads, they'd be asking for a shitload that they KNOW they wouldn't want.

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I wonder about muting my TV commercials. *Yawns*

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Posted on 09-18-07 02:06:50 AM Link | Quote
I think I've (purposely >:[ stupid WHEE ads) clicked on some sort of internet-ad maybe twice in my whole life. So me blocking them isn't going to make them lose that much

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Originally posted by Chen
I wonder about muting my TV commercials. *Yawns*
I use them as a chance to go take a leak or get a snack, or I just mute them and do something else while periodically glancing back at the screen. I guess that makes me a criminal. See also: if I were in the US, I'd already be a criminal, because I've copied "protected" CDs to my hard drive, and taken screenshots of DVD movies. (Even though in one case, the "protection" mentioned on the label didn't seem to actually exist. I wonder if that means just by playing the disc normally, I've circumvented the protection - without even trying - and thus violated the DMCA? )
Also, I think hacking my DVD players to be region-free (even though in one case I just used a backdoor left in by the developers ) is another violation. Whee!

(Also, the Google ads are working well for once - popup blockers, something about TV commercials, advertising, and Internet access control/"blocking software". I still don't want to buy any of those things though. )

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line 299 column 13 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 300 column 98 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&postid"
line 302 column 127 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 305 column 9 - Warning: <div> isn't allowed in <table> elements
line 152 column 17 - Info: <table> previously mentioned
line 307 column 9 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 325 column 13 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 326 column 98 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&postid"
line 328 column 84 - Warning: <style> isn't allowed in <td> elements
line 328 column 9 - Info: <td> previously mentioned
line 362 column 9 - Warning: <div> isn't allowed in <table> elements
line 152 column 17 - Info: <table> previously mentioned
line 364 column 9 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 382 column 13 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 383 column 98 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&postid"
line 385 column 127 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 387 column 15 - Warning: <div> isn't allowed in <table> elements
line 152 column 17 - Info: <table> previously mentioned
line 388 column 25 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 395 column 33 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 396 column 118 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&postid"
line 400 column 398 - Error: <z> is not recognized!
line 400 column 398 - Warning: discarding unexpected <z>
line 402 column 9 - Warning: <div> isn't allowed in <table> elements
line 152 column 17 - Info: <table> previously mentioned
line 404 column 9 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 422 column 13 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 423 column 98 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&postid"
line 425 column 84 - Warning: <style> isn't allowed in <td> elements
line 425 column 9 - Info: <td> previously mentioned
line 427 column 2763 - Error: <z> is not recognized!
line 427 column 2763 - Warning: discarding unexpected <z>
line 432 column 9 - Warning: <div> isn't allowed in <table> elements
line 152 column 17 - Info: <table> previously mentioned
line 434 column 9 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 452 column 13 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 453 column 98 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&postid"
line 462 column 9 - Warning: <div> isn't allowed in <table> elements
line 152 column 17 - Info: <table> previously mentioned
line 464 column 9 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 482 column 13 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 483 column 98 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&postid"
line 485 column 84 - Warning: <style> isn't allowed in <td> elements
line 485 column 9 - Info: <td> previously mentioned
line 490 column 9 - Warning: <div> isn't allowed in <table> elements
line 152 column 17 - Info: <table> previously mentioned
line 492 column 9 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 510 column 13 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 511 column 98 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&postid"
line 513 column 73 - Warning: <style> isn't allowed in <td> elements
line 513 column 9 - Info: <td> previously mentioned
line 540 column 8031 - Error: <z> is not recognized!
line 540 column 8031 - Warning: discarding unexpected <z>
line 543 column 9 - Warning: <div> isn't allowed in <table> elements
line 152 column 17 - Info: <table> previously mentioned
line 545 column 9 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 563 column 13 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 564 column 98 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&postid"
line 566 column 84 - Warning: <style> isn't allowed in <td> elements
line 566 column 9 - Info: <td> previously mentioned
line 578 column 9 - Warning: <div> isn't allowed in <table> elements
line 152 column 17 - Info: <table> previously mentioned
line 580 column 9 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 598 column 13 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 599 column 98 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&postid"
line 604 column 9 - Warning: <div> isn't allowed in <table> elements
line 152 column 17 - Info: <table> previously mentioned
line 606 column 9 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 624 column 13 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 625 column 98 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&postid"
line 627 column 84 - Warning: <style> isn't allowed in <td> elements
line 627 column 9 - Info: <td> previously mentioned
line 633 column 9 - Warning: <div> isn't allowed in <table> elements
line 152 column 17 - Info: <table> previously mentioned
line 635 column 9 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 653 column 13 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 654 column 98 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&postid"
line 656 column 127 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 656 column 165 - Warning: missing </font> before <blockquote>
line 656 column 196 - Warning: inserting implicit <font>
line 656 column 196 - Warning: missing </font> before <hr>
line 656 column 264 - Warning: inserting implicit <font>
line 656 column 264 - Warning: missing </font> before <hr>
line 657 column 1 - Warning: inserting implicit <font>
line 662 column 9 - Warning: <div> isn't allowed in <table> elements
line 152 column 17 - Info: <table> previously mentioned
line 664 column 9 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 682 column 13 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 683 column 98 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&postid"
line 685 column 73 - Warning: <style> isn't allowed in <td> elements
line 685 column 9 - Info: <td> previously mentioned
line 685 column 1885 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 691 column 3127 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&id"
line 691 column 3288 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 691 column 3340 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 691 column 3445 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&l"
line 691 column 3449 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&f"
line 692 column 3492 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&l"
line 692 column 3496 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&f"
line 693 column 3539 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&l"
line 693 column 3543 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&f"
line 694 column 3586 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&l"
line 694 column 3590 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&f"
line 695 column 3633 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&l"
line 695 column 3637 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&f"
line 698 column 15 - Warning: <div> isn't allowed in <table> elements
line 152 column 17 - Info: <table> previously mentioned
line 699 column 25 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 706 column 33 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 707 column 118 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&postid"
line 710 column 17 - Warning: <div> isn't allowed in <table> elements
line 152 column 17 - Info: <table> previously mentioned
line 711 column 25 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 718 column 33 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 719 column 118 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&postid"
line 723 column 9 - Warning: <div> isn't allowed in <table> elements
line 152 column 17 - Info: <table> previously mentioned
line 725 column 9 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 743 column 13 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 744 column 98 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&postid"
line 746 column 84 - Warning: <style> isn't allowed in <td> elements
line 746 column 9 - Info: <td> previously mentioned
line 753 column 17 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 753 column 17 - Warning: discarding unexpected <table>
line 756 column 35 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 756 column 95 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&page"
line 756 column 50 - Warning: missing </font> before </td>
line 756 column 130 - Warning: missing </font> before </table>
line 758 column 35 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 758 column 50 - Warning: missing </font> before </td>
line 759 column 37 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&id"
line 758 column 207 - Warning: missing </font> before </table>
line 760 column 17 - Warning: discarding unexpected </textarea>
line 760 column 28 - Warning: discarding unexpected </form>
line 760 column 35 - Warning: discarding unexpected </embed>
line 760 column 43 - Warning: discarding unexpected </noembed>
line 760 column 53 - Warning: discarding unexpected </noscript>
line 760 column 64 - Warning: discarding unexpected </noembed>
line 760 column 74 - Warning: discarding unexpected </embed>
line 760 column 82 - Warning: discarding unexpected </table>
line 760 column 90 - Warning: discarding unexpected </table>
line 762 column 9 - Warning: missing </font> before <table>
line 774 column 25 - Warning: discarding unexpected </font>
line 783 column 37 - Warning: discarding unexpected </font>
line 761 column 1 - Warning: missing </center>
line 120 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 125 column 19 - Warning: <td> attribute "width" has invalid value "120px"
line 125 column 93 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 141 column 19 - Warning: <td> attribute "width" has invalid value "120px"
line 141 column 98 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 148 column 44 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 148 column 142 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 148 column 244 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 161 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 161 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 161 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 161 column 161 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 172 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 188 column 23 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 188 column 64 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 188 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 188 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 189 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 199 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 207 column 1523 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 214 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 215 column 23 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 215 column 64 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 215 column 113 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 215 column 163 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 216 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 226 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 233 column 73 - Warning: <table> attribute "bgcolor" had invalid value "7C0800" and has been replaced
line 233 column 127 - Warning: <td> attribute "bgcolor" had invalid value "990000" and has been replaced
line 233 column 165 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "FFFFFF" and has been replaced
line 243 column 23 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 243 column 64 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 243 column 113 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 243 column 163 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 244 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 254 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 261 column 451 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 273 column 1983 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 276 column 2208 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 276 column 2293 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 284 column 64 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 284 column 163 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 285 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 295 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 302 column 73 - Warning: <table> attribute "bgcolor" had invalid value "7C0800" and has been replaced
line 302 column 127 - Warning: <td> attribute "bgcolor" had invalid value "990000" and has been replaced
line 302 column 165 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "FFFFFF" and has been replaced
line 310 column 23 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 310 column 64 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 310 column 113 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 310 column 163 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 321 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 329 column 2702 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 329 column 2702 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 331 column 3158 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 331 column 3158 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 333 column 3591 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 333 column 3591 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 357 column 6335 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 357 column 6335 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 359 column 7958 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 359 column 7958 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 366 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 367 column 23 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 367 column 64 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 367 column 113 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 367 column 163 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 368 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 378 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 385 column 73 - Warning: <table> attribute "bgcolor" had invalid value "7C0800" and has been replaced
line 385 column 127 - Warning: <td> attribute "bgcolor" had invalid value "990000" and has been replaced
line 385 column 165 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "FFFFFF" and has been replaced
line 391 column 37 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 398 column 250 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 398 column 250 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 400 column 496 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "888888" and has been replaced
line 407 column 23 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 407 column 64 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 407 column 113 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 407 column 163 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 418 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 427 column 3236 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 427 column 3236 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 429 column 3486 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 429 column 3486 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 429 column 5037 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 429 column 5037 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 436 column 16 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 436 column 16 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 436 column 59 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 436 column 59 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 436 column 102 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 436 column 102 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 436 column 145 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 436 column 145 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 436 column 188 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 436 column 188 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 436 column 231 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 436 column 231 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 436 column 274 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 436 column 274 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 436 column 317 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 436 column 317 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 436 column 360 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 436 column 360 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 436 column 403 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 436 column 403 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 437 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 437 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 448 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 467 column 23 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 467 column 64 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 467 column 113 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 467 column 163 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 478 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 487 column 2907 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 487 column 2907 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 487 column 4458 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 487 column 4458 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 495 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 495 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 567 column 2765 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 567 column 2765 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 573 column 3883 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 573 column 3883 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 575 column 5641 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 575 column 5641 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 582 column 15 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 582 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 582 column 58 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 582 column 58 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 582 column 101 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 582 column 101 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 582 column 144 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 582 column 144 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 582 column 187 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 582 column 187 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 582 column 230 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 582 column 230 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 582 column 273 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 582 column 273 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 582 column 316 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 582 column 316 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 582 column 359 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 582 column 359 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 583 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 583 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 583 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 583 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 609 column 23 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 609 column 64 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 609 column 113 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 609 column 163 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 620 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 628 column 2710 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 628 column 2710 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 630 column 2940 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 630 column 2940 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 630 column 4493 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 630 column 4493 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 637 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 638 column 23 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 638 column 64 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 638 column 113 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 638 column 163 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 639 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 649 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 656 column 73 - Warning: <table> attribute "bgcolor" had invalid value "7C0800" and has been replaced
line 656 column 127 - Warning: <td> attribute "bgcolor" had invalid value "990000" and has been replaced
line 656 column 165 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "FFFFFF" and has been replaced
line 656 column 196 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "FFFFFF" and has been replaced
line 656 column 264 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "FFFFFF" and has been replaced
line 657 column 1 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "FFFFFF" and has been replaced
line 667 column 23 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 667 column 64 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 667 column 113 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 667 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 678 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 691 column 3136 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 691 column 3421 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 692 column 3467 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 693 column 3514 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 694 column 3562 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 695 column 3610 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 702 column 37 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 709 column 241 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "888888" and has been replaced
line 714 column 37 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 721 column 305 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 721 column 305 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 721 column 431 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "888888" and has been replaced
line 728 column 23 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 728 column 64 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 728 column 113 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 728 column 163 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 739 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 747 column 2915 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 747 column 2915 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 747 column 3354 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 747 column 3354 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 748 column 3539 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 748 column 3539 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 750 column 3840 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 750 column 3840 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 750 column 5398 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 750 column 5398 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 759 column 44 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 759 column 142 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 759 column 244 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 768 column 25 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 773 column 267 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 656 column 165 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 753 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 177 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 204 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 206 column 73 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "background"
line 207 column 1179 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 231 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 233 column 73 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 233 column 127 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "border"
line 259 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 300 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 302 column 73 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 302 column 127 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "border"
line 326 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 383 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 385 column 73 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 385 column 127 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "border"
line 396 column 47 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 423 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 453 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 455 column 73 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 483 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 511 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 564 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 599 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 625 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 654 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 656 column 73 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 656 column 127 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "border"
line 683 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 685 column 1828 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 685 column 1945 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 691 column 3244 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 707 column 47 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 719 column 47 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 744 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 431 warnings and 3 errors!

The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

About HTML Tidy: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5
Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
Latest HTML specification: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/
Validate your HTML documents: http://validator.w3.org/nu/
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Do you speak a language other than English, or a different variant of
English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/blob/master/README/LOCALIZE.md