To be honest, our generation, including the younger and probably also middle-aged people (whatever age-span you want to see here) use the internet quite a lot. It is a vital part of our lives, seriously. So we access the www, learning new things, and browsers like Firefox, Opera or Chrome help doing run-of-the-mill internet tasks (imo) a lot more conveniently. There's auto-updating, add-ons which save a lot of time, and things you may not ever want to miss again.
A person who accesses the internet maybe two or three times a week, opening up the Internet Explorer ("Why should I use another browser? Windows has one right there - conveniently - and this one displays my pages I want perfectly!!!!!oneon), probably won't "miss" anything important. A friend of me used IE until late 2007. He is not dumb, just a bit lazy, but use(d) the computer mainly for playing games, and had similar attitudes towards other browsers. While I never said that IE is bad, but may have some serious security holes which may or may not be patched in time and IE's lack of good extensions, it's the extensions in Firefox which he now likes to use. Of course, I cannot recommend Firefox (3) to anyone who runs a really old computer - as this browser still is a f*in' RAM whore. I may not experience problems with 4 GB or RAM, but on my old computer which only had 512 megabytes I had to watch what and how many tabs to keep open.
In family I'm the system admin if I'm going home visiting my mother and sister (thank god there was not anything too bad yet). While they don't use their machine that much, I still tell them to never put in their personal data on most sites - for eBay, amazon and other pages I usually advise them to either use a search engine, carefull checking the URL and never to click on anything inside a mail - until not really requested by a friend (and even then, scanning the attachments beforehand; you never know if another computer might be infected).
Their machine runs Windows 7 Home Premium under a restricted account. Luckily they don't play games, so there is actually no need to install software, update drivers and other things too often. And I won't remove or mask IE8 by force, like you could just make a shortcut to Firefox, change its icon to the blue 'e', effectively foisting FF on them. You have to learn it your own way. At least my sister uses Firefox more often than IE8
Keep in mind that some people can't upgrade either. Take big companies that are running old software that only works in IE6. That's why I decided to keep everything still functioning, but just not caring about little graphic / layout irks anymore.
And Firefox starts to suck too, if you ask me. Ever since they upgraded to version 3, it often completely crashes, and it's become a real resource hog. I also hate how it 'remembers' all your sessions and just continues completely from when you closed it last time.
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Originally posted by LeroyAnd Firefox starts to suck too, if you ask me. Ever since they upgraded to version 3, it often completely crashes, and it's become a real resource hog. I also hate how it 'remembers' all your sessions and just continues completely from when you closed it last time.
It's never crashed on me and you can tell it to not remember your session. Although I don't see why you wouldn't want it to remember.
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Originally posted by LeroyEver since they upgraded to version 3, it often completely crashes, and it's become a real resource hog. I also hate how it 'remembers' all your sessions and just continues completely from when you closed it last time.
Have you tried the newer versions? They're up to 3.6.6 or something now.
The early versions of 3 were crashy garbage, yeah, but they fixed that later on. Had they not they may as well have given up on competing in the mega-market of different browsers.
Of course, since it's based on my favorite old Netscape stuff from the land before time, I'm not leaving it for any of the flashy new browsers... :p
Originally posted by LeroyEver since they upgraded to version 3, it often completely crashes, and it's become a real resource hog. I also hate how it 'remembers' all your sessions and just continues completely from when you closed it last time.
Have you tried the newer versions? They're up to 3.6.6 or something now.
The early versions of 3 were crashy garbage, yeah, but they fixed that later on. Had they not they may as well have given up on competing in the mega-market of different browsers.
Of course, since it's based on my favorite old Netscape stuff from the land before time, I'm not leaving it for any of the flashy new browsers... :p
It did get a little better indeed, and I have 3.6.6 in fact. But still, I remember in the good old days it was fast, not bulky, didn't consume so much resources and never crashed.
Originally posted by LeroyIt did get a little better indeed, and I have 3.6.6 in fact. But still, I remember in the good old days it was fast, not bulky, didn't consume so much resources and never crashed.
Originally posted by LeroyIt did get a little better indeed, and I have 3.6.6 in fact. But still, I remember in the good old days it was fast, not bulky, didn't consume so much resources and never crashed.
You mean you wish it was more like Chrome
Yes, let me switch to the browser with so much less extensibility for so insignificant an improvement in performance.
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Ah, no reason to argue about the browsers. People have their preferences, and an old internet fogey like me just wants to relive the Netscape days. Chrome has its extensions, but being old school, I hate Google for displacing Yahoo. I also hate the uber-clean design rhetoric, since it doesn't add anything and takes away a bunch of stuff I like.
On the other hand Opera is my main video browser, at least until they extend Flash to x64 or the new HTML5 thing overtakes Flash for video.
I had updated to firefox just because IE says I could not update to flash despite running fine in firefox (I actuall spent hours trying to get flash to work in IE)
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Originally posted by Metal_Man88On the other hand Opera is my main video browser, at least until they extend Flash to x64 or the new HTML5 thing overtakes Flash for video.
You're not the only one who likes to keep videos to their own browser. I regularly open up Firefox on here if I'm going to be doing work with a lot of flash pages, and back when I was on 56k I'd actually have Flash disabled entirely in Firefox but allowed in Opera, just in case.
It's great to have a connection with good speed. Now, if only it wouldn't drop so much...
Chrome suits my needs since its a simplistic way to view the web. Anything I need is found on the website I'm visiting, not in some extension or add on.
Originally posted by LeroyThe Web Developer add-on is practically the only reason I still use Firefox. Should there be a plugin like that for Chrome, I'd switch right away.
I use chrome because I need all of my precious 256 megabytes of ram. And because after using it for so long, the idea of having seperate url and search bars seems inconvenient.
I don't tend to use many addons anyways. I loved firefox before the newer versions decided to go ahead and eat all my ram.
Originally posted by LeroyThe Web Developer add-on is practically the only reason I still use Firefox. Should there be a plugin like that for Chrome, I'd switch right away.
