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Posted on 07-10-10 02:26:57 PM (last edited by FieryIce at 07-10-10 03:03 PM) Link | Quote
Another source that may be more credible



Background


Mutarotases are recently characterized family of enzymes that are involved in the anomeric conversions of monosaccharides. The mammalian fucose mutarotase (FucM) was reported in cultured cells to facilitate fucose utilization and incorporation into protein by glycosylation. However, the role of this enzyme in animal has not been elucidated.


Results


We generated a mutant mouse specifically lacking the fucose mutarotase (FucM) gene. The FucM knockout mice displayed an abnormal sexual receptivity with a drastic reduction in lordosis score, although the animals were fertile due to a rare and forced intromission by a typical male. We examined the anteroventral periventricular nucleus (AVPv) of the preoptic region in brain and found that the mutant females showed a reduction in tyrosine hydoxylase positive neurons compared to that of a normal female. Furthermore, the mutant females exhibited a masculine behavior, such as mounting to a normal female partner as well as showing a preference to female urine. We found a reduction of fucosylated serum alpha-fetoprotein (AFP) in a mutant embryo relative to that of a wild-type embryo.


Conclusions


The observation that FucM-/- female mouse exhibits a phenotypic similarity to a wild-type male in terms of its sexual behavior appears to be due to the neurodevelopmental changes in preoptic area of mutant brain resembling a wild-type male. Since the previous studies indicate that AFP plays a role in titrating estradiol that are required to consolidate sexual preference of female mice, we speculate that the reduced level of AFP in FucM-/- mouse, presumably resulting from the reduced fucosylation, is responsible for the male-like sexual behavior observed in the FucM knock-out mouse.




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This is interesting, I wonder how long until a counterpart is found in other mammals (like humans xP)
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Posted on 07-10-10 02:38:18 PM Link | Quote
Pretty cool, FieryIce... wonder if we're finally getting closer to proving what genes cause homosexuality in humans. =P

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Posted on 07-10-10 02:43:46 PM Link | Quote
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Pretty cool, FieryIce... wonder if we're finally getting closer to proving what genes cause homosexuality in humans. =P
Yes, so conservatives can finally do what they've wanted to for years: have an uncertain (BUT CERTAIN ENOUGH FOR GOD!) method of checking whether someone is gay or not with or without a connfesion, so they can put them in some kind of abusive "therapy" to get "the gay" cured. Or worse, killing "gay babies".
Exciting times indeed.

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Posted on 07-10-10 04:07:41 PM Link | Quote
At first look, this article looks real, until you READ it. I LOLed.

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Posted on 07-10-10 05:19:07 PM Link | Quote
Wait, if it caused them to behave as males, wouldn't that make them transgendered, not lesbian?

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Posted on 07-10-10 05:44:19 PM Link | Quote

the FucM gene
Great name choice, guys!

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Posted on 07-10-10 05:46:56 PM Link | Quote
That was the first thing I saw That's why I don't believe this article

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Posted on 07-10-10 05:56:49 PM (last edited by Reimu at 07-16-10 12:03 AM) Link | Quote
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At first I facepalmed becouse science doesn't work that way and there's just so many things wrong that match my low hopes in humanity.

Then I read it a second time and facepalmed harder.
I mean "Disabling the FucM gene"? Seriously?


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Posted on 07-10-10 05:59:30 PM Link | Quote
I've updated the first post with a link to another article that I think is much more credible.

See article..

The name of the gene I suppose is merely a horrible coincidence...
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Posted on 07-10-10 06:37:06 PM (last edited by vinnyboiler at 07-10-10 03:37 PM) Link | Quote
So the mice think they are men, wouldn't they think something is up when they look downstairs.
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Posted on 07-11-10 03:17:19 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Terra
Wait, if it caused them to behave as males, wouldn't that make them transgendered, not lesbian?


Not necessarily. Some people have behaviors that are natural to the opposite genders, but aren't transgendered themselves.

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Posted on 07-11-10 03:33:20 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by vinnyboiler
So the mice think they are men, wouldn't they think something is up when they look downstairs.


Think ≠ Behave

The mice behave as males, but they probably know they are female.
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Posted on 07-11-10 03:41:30 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by FieryIce
Originally posted by vinnyboiler
So the mice think they are men, wouldn't they think something is up when they look downstairs.


Think ≠ Behave

The mice behave as males, but they probably know they are female.

So like a cross between a tomboy and a mouse.
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Posted on 07-11-10 05:39:57 AM (last edited by Xenesis at 07-11-10 02:43 AM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by Reimu
Then I read it a second time and facepalmed harder.
I mean "Disabling the FucM gene"? Seriously?


Scientists allowed to name things do this all the time. ALL THE GOD DAMNED time.

The typical gene naming shorthand is usually a 3 letter acronym plus some descriptive superscript. The most ubiquitous one is the gene so named "shibire" in the fruit fly....which happens to be temperature sensitive. Hence the acronym shi(ts).

No joke.

And don't get me started on arsole.
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Posted on 07-11-10 05:49:45 AM (last edited by Terra at 07-11-10 02:50 AM) Link | Quote
Yep, isn't there some organic molecule named "Sonic hedgehog" or something similar? Also, plutonium's symbol, Pu, was intended to be a joke ("P-U! That stinks!"), but it got in.

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Posted on 07-11-10 01:25:12 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Reimu
At first I facepalmed becouse science doesn't work that way and there's just so many things wrong that match my low hopes in humanity.

Then I read it a second time and facepalmed harder.
I mean "Disabling the FucM gene"? Seriously?

Despite the silly name, this is real legitimate science. Have you forgotten we've spliced glowing rabbits?

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Posted on 07-12-10 03:06:13 PM Link | Quote
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Originally posted by Peardian
Despite the silly name, this is real legitimate science. Have you forgotten we've spliced glowing rabbits?
There were a few things with the article itself that were absurd.

Like, for instance, suggesting going from mice behavior straight to human behavior. Nevermind that mating is pretty much the highest priority of mice or that humans are, you know, much more complex.

Or that basically they seemed to follow the logic of "changing B changes A so A is B", disregarding that the actual workings most likely have nothing to do, as they have been specifically induced to behave like that.

But calling something that alters the reproductive perception "I FOUND THE GAY GENES" is pretty much stupid.

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Posted on 07-16-10 01:57:20 AM Link | Quote
brb becoming a bioterrorist
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