Jul -- Gaming: Sequels: Mario Galaxy and Legend of Zelda Skyward Sword

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Posted on 07-04-10 05:22:55 PM

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Originally posted by system~of~a~down~guitar
(didnt link just slay his ass in the previous Zelda?)

Considering this may be the first chronologically (and definitively takes place before Ocarina of Time), no, and probably the big bad isn't even [trope=GannonBanned]Ganon[/trope]. It is stated to be "evil forces".

Does the plot tie with the LoZ:TP plot? characters?

In terms of plot, probably it ties in with most of the main storyline considering. That includes TP and Wind Waker, and OoT.

has Navi replaced midna? Hey!? Hey!? Listen! Listen!

No, Master Sword-tan has. They didn't even try to keep that as a secret.

Release Date?

Somewhere in 2011

But I think we lack a thread about this game, so eh.

Personally I think the traveling between both realms will be paralell to A Link To The Past, except the "dark world" is completelly different. (But it probably will have recognizable locations, such as the Death Mountain or Lake Hylia).
Also it seems we may get something similar to Metroid Fusion in terms of exploration. In that it could be story-driven or something as it said it'd restrain from the "explore world use item clear dungeon repeat" gameplay...

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Posted on 07-04-10 06:28:56 PM

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I loved the dark world in Zelda aLttP, you think you beat the game then POW. It is like a sequal in itself.
But I do feel that the concept may be getting over used, just how many gameplay elements can Nintendo think of that is both creative and orginal?

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Posted on 07-04-10 08:37:27 PM

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thanks for the info guys, as for SMG2... meh... well im kinda nervous to update my wii to play because my fear of it wiping out homebrew

I understand jul lacks a thread about this, we got one now. post any info or discuss about eather of these games.

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Posted on 07-04-10 08:39:53 PM

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Originally posted by vinnyboiler
I loved the dark world in Zelda aLttP, you think you beat the game then POW. It is like a sequal in itself.
But I do feel that the concept may be getting over used, just how many gameplay elements can Nintendo think of that is both creative and orginal?

I agree, I would like to see more diversity in concept.
I dont know if you would consider zelda adventure or action RPG?

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Posted on 07-04-10 10:32:45 PM

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Originally posted by Reimu
Originally posted by system~of~a~down~guitar
(didnt link just slay his ass in the previous Zelda?)
Considering this may be the first chronologically (and definitively takes place before Ocarina of Time), no, and probably the big bad isn't even [trope=GannonBanned]Ganon[/trope]. It is stated to be "evil forces".

"[trope=HijackedByGanon]Evil Forces[/trope]"?

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Posted on 07-04-10 11:17:13 PM

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Originally posted by Darkdata
Originally posted by Reimu
Originally posted by system~of~a~down~guitar
(didnt link just slay his ass in the previous Zelda?)
Considering this may be the first chronologically (and definitively takes place before Ocarina of Time), no, and probably the big bad isn't even [trope=GannonBanned]Ganon[/trope]. It is stated to be "evil forces".

"[trope=HijackedByGanon]Evil Forces[/trope]"?

Ganon didn't exist then! HOW could he possibly hijack that?!

Then again, [trope=WallBanger]looking at his record he probably even might[/trope]

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Posted on 07-05-10 01:22:55 AM

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	I don't really consider any of the Zelda games as being in a single timeline, but rather as a collection of different versions of the same story. That way I never have to argue about timeline stuff. (Seriously, a timeline split after OoT? Do you really think the developers thought hard into that or they just wanted to put Link in different settings?) ____________________

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Posted on 07-05-10 02:02:20 AM

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yes, its definately not gannon. theres not even any moblins, bublin archers, tektite, toadpoli, or duku toads. not even a single Monkey Chum! basically fthe only re-occuring enemy I saw was a dekubob.

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Posted on 07-05-10 03:20:35 AM

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Originally posted by Boing
I don't really consider any of the Zelda games as being in a single timeline, but rather as a collection of different versions of the same story. That way I never have to argue about timeline stuff. (Seriously, a timeline split after OoT? Do you really think the developers thought hard into that or they just wanted to put Link in different settings?)

The timeline split is obvious if you pay attention to the end of OOT. Miyamoto and Aonuma both later confirm it's true. Both also confirmed that there is indeed a timeline that they've been following (they just decided to throw different parts of the story in a bizarre order)

The split, very summarized, goes like this:
Adult timeline: Link defeats Ganon and seals him in the Sacred Realm with the aid of the sages, Zelda sends him back in time and thus, he disappears completely. Ganon breaks the seal and the people expect The Hero of Time to save them again, but he doesn't show up (he disappeared after Zelda sent him back in time) and they start praying to the gods and then the events of Wind Waker happen.
Child timeline: Link is sent back in time, and goes to Zelda (seen in the very end of the game) to inform her of Ganon's plans and the king prepares for this, the sages somehow ended up sealing him in the Twilight Realm and the events of Majora's Mask (same Link), and Twilight Princess (different Link) take place. (I'm not 100% sure on this one, I only played TP once and I've forgotten a lot!)

So, games that mention a Hero of Time should go in the adult timeline, whereas those that don't either go before OOT or in the child timeline.

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Posted on 07-05-10 04:20:39 AM

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	Well, most Zelda games have a self contained plot so it doesn't really matter that much anyways. Timeline stuff is really just background info that can supplement. ____________________

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Originally posted by Reimu

Ganon didn't exist then! HOW could he possibly hijack that?!

Then again, [trope=WallBanger]looking at his record he probably even might[/trope]

*Ganondorf appears in a TARDIS and attacks Link*
Ganondorf: "That's right! I killed a Time Lord just to get here! You had better be happy, that cost me ten million rupees to have done!"

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Posted on 07-05-10 11:09:04 AM

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Originally posted by Boing
I don't really consider any of the Zelda games as being in a single timeline, but rather as a collection of different versions of the same story. That way I never have to argue about timeline stuff. (Seriously, a timeline split after OoT? Do you really think the developers thought hard into that or they just wanted to put Link in different settings?)

All I ever thought was that some games had direct sequels, and other games had 100-year gaps between them. OoT had MM for a direct sequel and WW for the 100-year gap. WW had Phantom Hourglass for a sequel and then TP for the 100-year gap. That's how I always figured it, not multiple time-lines.

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Posted on 07-06-10 11:47:58 AM

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The timeline split is obvious if you pay attention to the end of OOT. Miyamoto and Aonuma both later confirm it's true. Both also confirmed that there is indeed a timeline that they've been following (they just decided to throw different parts of the story in a bizarre order)

The split, very summarized, goes like this:
Adult timeline: Link defeats Ganon and seals him in the Sacred Realm with the aid of the sages, Zelda sends him back in time and thus, he disappears completely. Ganon breaks the seal and the people expect The Hero of Time to save them again, but he doesn't show up (he disappeared after Zelda sent him back in time) and they start praying to the gods and then the events of Wind Waker happen.
Child timeline: Link is sent back in time, and goes to Zelda (seen in the very end of the game) to inform her of Ganon's plans and the king prepares for this, the sages somehow ended up sealing him in the Twilight Realm and the events of Majora's Mask (same Link), and Twilight Princess (different Link) take place. (I'm not 100% sure on this one, I only played TP once and I've forgotten a lot!)

So, games that mention a Hero of Time should go in the adult timeline, whereas those that don't either go before OOT or in the child timeline.

thats a believable theory, considering that both OOT and TP speak of an ancient hero who disposed of the evil in hyrule and then disappear, I always thought the Hero's Shade from TP was the spirit of that Ancient Hero

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