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Posted on 06-29-10 02:21:50 AM (last edited by FieryIce at 06-28-10 11:24 PM) Link | Quote
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Conditions at G20 Dentention Centre are illegal, immoral and dangerous

We just got back to our computers and are frantically writing this message. It is 4:45 a.m. on Monday morning. We are the only people who seem to know the extent of this story. Coffee and adrenaline keeping us going. When we got to Queen and Spadina after leaving the Convergence Centre raid today, we had already been blocked off by police lines. It was pouring rain, and we could hear a confrontation taking place further down the street. The cops didn't care whether or not we were media -- in fact, we heard that media was forced to leave before we arrived. Police acted violently and with sheer disregard for the law, attacking peaceful protesters and civilians unrelated to the protest. Tired, frantic, and feeling defeated, we came home and posted the message before this one.


We then did the only thing left to do, and headed to 629 Eastern Avenue (the G20 Detention Centre, a converted film studio), where detainees from the demonstrations were being taken. We knew people were being released sporadically so we grabbed as many juice boxes and granola bars as we could afford and set off with medical supplies. Journalists were basically absent, showed up only to take a few seconds of video, or simply arrived far too late to be effective.


It is next to impossible to set the scene of what happened at the Detention Centre. Between the two of us we estimate that we spoke to over 120 people, most of whom were released between 9:30 p.m. and 4:30 a.m. Despite not knowing each other, the story they tell is the same. It goes like this. Most were arrested at three locations: the Novotel on Saturday evening where the police arrested hundreds of peaceful protesters (look @spaikan on Twitter); Spadina/Queen's Park all day Saturday and early Sunday, as people were arrested all over the downtown for many different (and often bogus) reasons; and the University of Toronto, where hundreds of Quebecers and others were woken up and arrested at gun point early Saturday morning.


What follows is a list, as detailed as we can make it in a blog post, of what we saw and heard.


People were held for up to 35 hours with a single meal. None seemed to have received food more than twice daily, the meal they did receive was a hamburger bun with processed cheese and margarine described as a centimeter thick. Detainees had to create loud noises for hours to receive any food at all. All reported feeling more ill and dehydrated after eating than before. Some vomited and received no medical attention when they did. Water was not provided with the meal.


Inadequate water, as little as an ounce every 12 hours. Although some people reported receiving approximately an ounce (a small Dixie cup) of water every three hours, most seemed to have received far less than that. They had to create loud noises and continuously demand water, only to receive it up to an hour and a half later. Sometimes rooms with over a dozen people were only given a handful (four or five) cups of water and forced to share. Some reported the water as yellow-coloured and smelling of urine, which they didn't drink.


Facilities over-capacity.There were many reports of "cages" filled with 40 people, though a police officer told one detainee that they were intended for groups of no more than 15 to 20. Each cage had a single bench, with only enough seating for five people. There was only one toilet in each cage and it was without a door. Women were creating barriers with their bodies for others to create some semblance of privacy.


Major delays in processing.Many detainees were told that the only reason they remained at the Centre was due to unexplained delays in processing. Most detainees seemed to go through a three step system whereby they were put in an initial holding cell, only to be moved to a second cell after meeting a Staff Sergeant in a board room. This is where they were told what they were arrested for. Eventually they were moved to a third cell before release. This process seemed to take no less than 10 hours. Others were never told why they were arrested and never signed any documents. A few were released immediately upon arriving at the Centre and were never processed. Some were never brought to a cell, only made to wait in a line to be let out.


Inconsistent charges. Groups arrested at the same time and for the same behaviour were given different charges, with some let out and others given court dates. Many felt the police simply assigned a charge or did not know why they were being arrested. Some charges were changed or dropped before the detainees were released.


People put in solitary confinement. Most of the openly queer detainees reported to have been transferred to a "Segregated Zone." In cages built for one, couples of men and women were held. A lesbian is reported to have spent nearly 10 hours alone. Another woman said she was kept alone in a large cell for hours, asking to be moved the whole time.


No pillows or mattresses to sleep. No bedding was ever provided for detainees, who were told to sleep on bare concrete floors. Detainees were stripped of all but a single shirt and legwear. Many said they could not sleep during their day long detentions.


Unsanitary and unsafe living conditions. Many of the floors of the cages were covered with dirt and the residue from green paintballs used to identify suspects in crowds. Vomit was also on the floor and no cleaning of the cages took place.


Police intimidation of released detainees. With many of the detainees released and standing across the street from the detention centre, getting food and water from community volunteers while waiting for friends, police stood menacingly across the road. Almost all the detainees were frightened by the police presence and feared an attack. The police used the headlights of rental Dodge Caravans to light up the crowd, citing a need to "keep them visible."


Non-stop light exposure/loss of natural light rhythm/sensory deprivation. Detainees emerged with a broken day/night cycle, being deprived of all connection to the outside world or any other time-based events (ie. set eating times). While in their cages, detainees were subject to constant light.
Exposure to extreme cold.Detainees complained of the air conditioning in the building being very high. Many of them said that they were frozen and asked for blankets, a request which was always refused. Due to having only a single layer of shirt and sleeping on concrete floors, the cages were extremely cold.


Sexual harassment of women and Queer people. We heard many first-hand accounts of cat-calls and crude sexual comments directed at women from police officers at the Centre. Some women faced inappropriate sexual contact (including one girl who was forced to endure a police officer covering her body with detainee number stickers in order to touch her), and rough handling from police officers. Openly Queer boys were told to "straighten up," and there was at least one completely nude strip search preformed on a young woman with no reasonable explanation. It is unclear whether the strip searches that took place were consistently conducted by members of the same gender. It is also unclear as to whether any Transpeople, if detained, were put in cells of a gender of their own determination or in cells of a police gender assignment.


Youth as young as 15 in adult cells. Youth (under 18) detainees were held in the same cells as adults, some of whom had not been charged at all (and thus it could not be justified that they were being held on adult charges). A 16-year-old was held in an adult cell for at least 12 hours, the police were fully aware of his age, and his parents were at no point contacted.


Denial of legal counsel. When detainees asked to see lawyers they were told that they would receive legal counsel at a later time or at the time of processing. Often, these times went by and no legal counsel was provided. Those released without charge were told to avoid contacting lawyers. Most detainees said they were never informed of their rights.


No phone call. About only one in ten of the detainees we spoke to had been given access to a phone. Others were promised access at a later time and never received it. There was a father waiting outside for his 20-year old son who had been arrested Saturday afternoon or evening, and had yet to receive a call. Many of the detainees were told that only 20 phones were available in the building, holding over 500 detainees at the time. The offices of legal counsel also had no landlines.


Belonging stolen/damaged.Most detainees reported that at least some of their confiscated belongings were not returned to them, including passports, wallets, credit and debit cards, money, cellphones and clothing. When detainees were escorted outside the Centre, many were made to walk on the street without access to their shoes (sealed in thick plastic bags only returned at the limit of the Centre's property). Some shoes were missing entirely. At least one extremely visually impaired detainee's glasses were put with his belongings and were severely damaged when he recovered them (ie. broken in half).


Threats of assault/harassment.Many detainees, but especially French Canadian detainees (who were not served in French), were taunted and threatened with assault. Homophobic slurs were used by guards and one was told that if he was ever seen again in Toronto the cop would attack him. Other degrading comments were made, including telling detainees that they "looked like dogs."


Obviously illegal civilian arrests. Some civilians who were completely uninvolved in the demonstrations were arrested while exiting subway stations in the downtown core. Some were arrested after illegal searches of cars turned up "dangerous goods" (like books about activism and lemon juice). One fully-uniformed TTC streetcar driver was arrested for hours. He had been ordered out of his streetcar by riot police and was immediately arrested. We wish we were kidding.


No access to medication or medical treatment. While doing medical support, Lex met at least two people who had been denied medication. The first was a woman who said that she was pre-diabetic and needed medication for nausea and dizziness. She was denied access to medical treatment, despite the fact that by the time Lex found her she was extremely faint, barely conscious, and had difficulty sitting up. The second was a young man who was prescribed anti-psychotics and had missed several doses (he did not, however, have an episode at the time Lex met him). We heard stories of at least one person with Type 2 diabetes inside the Centre who had been deprived of insulin and fell unconscious. Many stories of a man handcuffed to a wheelchair, missing a leg (and his prosthetic) came from the released detainees. One recently-released detainee had four extremely poorly done stitches on his chin and was uncertain as to what shots (whether tetanus or anesthetic, or both) he was given. He was given the stitches at the time of his arrest and the wound was still bleeding badly (we had to sterilize it and applied gauze).


Abandonment Despite all of the above mentioned crimes against detainees, most notably including medical issues, the Toronto Police had no plan for the detainees after they were released. They were simply escorted off the property and told to leave. Many had no idea where they were, had no access to a phone, had not eaten in a day, had no identification or money on their person, and were nowhere near mass transit. Had community volunteers and fellow released detainees not been present to assist them, we fear that some could have faced life-threatening medical emergencies or death.






Other sources:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/g8-g20/toronto/caught-in-the-storm-penned-in-at-queen-street/article1621255/
http://news.nationalpost.com/2010/06/27/12572/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2010/06/28/g20-rosenfeld-police.html
http://rabble.ca/news/2010/06/eyewitness-accounts-police-brutality-and-indiscriminate-arrests

What in the world is going on? I can't help but wonder who the hell was behind all of this...

No, you don't have to answer the thread title. It's clear the Nazis were still worse than this....
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Posted on 06-29-10 02:42:44 AM Link | Quote
Jesus. No words can describe what I'm feeling about all this.

Just. Dear God.

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Posted on 06-29-10 03:35:48 AM Link | Quote
It's unbelievable. Yet I believe it. That's some seriously messed up... everything.

Has the police department released any statement(s) yet? Or are they just going to ignore all of this?

At least the volunteers are there to help people survive.

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Posted on 06-29-10 03:37:21 AM Link | Quote
So when do the G20 let us know that we're headed towards another recession/depression at this point? They seem to be getting LOADS done over there that help everyone.
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Posted on 06-29-10 03:53:00 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by MajesticLight
It's unbelievable. Yet I believe it. That's some seriously messed up... everything.

Has the police department released any statement(s) yet? Or are they just going to ignore all of this?

At least the volunteers are there to help people survive.

They don't have to. The G20 gave them that power.

It disgusts me that this isn't only Toronto cops. Cops from all over Canada were shipped in.

Furthermore, cops from the US and the UK were shipped over too. Just... ugh.

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Posted on 06-29-10 07:56:06 AM Link | Quote
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Whoa, good work there guys! Maybe you can switch to driving tanks over people at this rate!

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Posted on 06-29-10 11:39:01 PM Link | Quote
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Posted on 06-30-10 12:39:33 AM Link | Quote

And it now comes out that the police did not have the "carte blanche" powers they both said they had and acted on, and they knew this.

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Posted on 06-30-10 02:21:10 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Sukasa
And it now comes out that the police did not have the "carte blanche" powers they both said they had and acted on, and they knew this.

Wait, what? So they can actually get in trouble after all? Or did I read that wrong?

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Posted on 06-30-10 02:33:33 AM Link | Quote

There'll be a huge public backlash, whether you read that right or not (but you did)

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Posted on 06-30-10 02:36:45 AM Link | Quote
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All that comes to mind is "my god what the fuck" and something along the lines of revolution, Room 101, etc.

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Posted on 06-30-10 03:45:17 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Sukasa
There'll be a huge public backlash, whether you read that right or not (but you did)

No matter if they were or weren't given the power to do as they wished without repercussions, it's still wrong to abuse that power. In my opinion, there should be a huge public backlash. The complete disregard for human beings... it's absolutely despicable. At least at Pittsburgh's G20 they "just" threw shit-tons of tear gas, confiscated/ destroyed most media evidence they got their hands on, arrested "trouble makers," used LRAD against them, etc. They (usually) gave people a way out (just back down from the freaking riot police line already), and they (usually) gave warnings before attacking. Still, I was horrified at what they did to make sure the conference went smoothly for the big shots. Attacking college students on their own freaking campus, hurting innocent pedestrians who got caught in the wrong place at the wrong time, destroying media recordings (violation of freedom of the press)... I didn't think it could get much worse

Apparently it can.

The next G20 looks like it's at Seoul, Korea.

Who wants to bet they'll top Canada? I say this because, unfortunately, getting worse seems to be a trend.

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Posted on 06-30-10 09:59:34 AM Link | Quote
The next G20 is in South Korea? Well, it's marginally better than North Korea.

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Posted on 06-30-10 12:47:27 PM Link | Quote
How does that not surprise me?

I heard in the TV that during the G8 meeting in Germany, a person lost his eye sight because the police aimed the water thrower directly at his eyes. He did not get any money or in fact any aid for the consequences.

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Posted on 06-30-10 09:10:06 PM Link | Quote
I'll agree that this is not right. But seriously, some of these people HAVE been asking for this.

I, for one, have never been for fair treatment of someone who uses something like the G20 as an excuse to cause destruction (which I'll assume is still a fair number of those who were caught)
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Well, with any luck, this will eventually hit a roadblock with a country which refuses to play into the uncivil and illegal police behavior.

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Originally posted by Aerakin
I'll agree that this is not right. But seriously, some of these people HAVE been asking for this.

I, for one, have never been for fair treatment of someone who uses something like the G20 as an excuse to cause destruction (which I'll assume is still a fair number of those who were caught)

Let's say 5% of the people out there on the streets were causing problems, destruction, etc. Actually, lets make it 20%

Using these theoretical numbers, for every guilty person, there are 4 perfectly innocent people who were minding their own business and were unfairly treated, detained, etc. You've read the reports.

While some people might have been "asking for it," it doesn't make it right to treat all the others without dignity and respect that they deserve.

In addition, plenty of other events have caused serious destruction. A person interviewed at Pittsburgh said that the riot after a freaking football game caused far more damage than the G20 riots. For the football game, there were very few consequences, unlike the G20.

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Posted on 07-01-10 12:23:45 PM (last edited by Aerakin at 07-01-10 09:26 AM) Link | Quote
Perhaps, I haven't read that much about it to be honest. However, I'd simply like everyone to consider that the police might not always be wrong 100% of the time.

Let's just say I'm a bit sceptical about all these 'innocent' people. I mean, you're not exactly gonna claim "Yes, I was destroying stuff in the streets". So yeah, police was probably in the wrong once again. But at the very least, I'd say that not everyone that claimed "they did nothing" were saying the truth. I mean, why would you.

EDIT: Of course, we've had similar stuff to the Pittsburg stuff MajesticLight mentioned and it was more or less without any trouble like the G8/20. But it is a bit different. You don't have the 20 people who basically "run the world" in the city
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Posted on 07-02-10 03:08:00 AM Link | Quote
Even though there are innocent people within the prision, an interesting film, Das Experiment, kind of gives an answer to why they would be treated in such a way, along with the prisoners who would be "asking for it"

I guess the officers were under constant pressure, possibly from being harassed by inmates constantly, recieving a lot of abuse and jeers from them that they wanted to retaliate. Eventually, this gets out of hand and they cannot restore the situation because it's already gone so far that they would lose their "power" over them if they were to ease up. In this scenario, the situation will only get worse until the point where shit like that happens.

Eventually this also would lead to them just not giving a fuck how the inmates are treated, and they would end up grouping them all together (instead of singling out the actual people who would be disruptive / whatever) and treat them all the same way. It doesn't matter to them who would be getting hurt at that point, aslong as they were showing them that they are incharge and they won't take any shit.

(I'm only saying this to the actual conditions, and not the case where many people were detained from the same areas. I'd imagine that the conditions weren't as bad as they are stated in the report, and it just progressed the way I said. But if I'm wrong, ignore me )

Although, I think the last two things mentioned in that quote are disgusting and I hope everyone who was detained there is on the road to returning to their families / becoming healthy again.


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