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Posted on 09-08-07 12:52:15 AM

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	Yes! Let's immediately abandon a system in which we pours possibly billions of dollars in to, because it's not winning the console wars! There's absolutely no point in even trying to fix our problems at all, since that would be what a person who wanted to make money would do! What a great plan. There's definitely no point in trying to make people aware of what we believe is a decent to good game that has been critically bashed as bad. No reason at all to try to clear up confusion or issues, even after a patch that we believe fixes many of the problems! Nope! I'm sorry. As much as I agree that this is ridiculous as hell (and is pretty sleazy, I must admit), the PS3 is NOT dead and there's no point in bashing them for at least trying. Christ alfuckingmighty. ____________________ ؟

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Posted on 09-08-07 12:58:05 AM

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Originally posted by Kles
There's definitely no point in trying to make people aware of what we believe is a decent to good game that has been critically bashed as bad. No reason at all to try to clear up confusion or issues, even after a patch that we believe fixes many of the problems! Nope!

I'm sorry. As much as I agree that this is ridiculous as hell (and is pretty sleazy, I must admit), the PS3 is NOT dead and there's no point in bashing them for at least trying.

Uh, this isn't trying to fix anything, basically saying "The game doesn't suck, you do."

I think the whole point is that it's sleazy -- Sony has a rather bad reputation for not actually fixing anything and just using the end user as a scapegoat ("Nobody knows what a rootkit is, so why worry" ring any bells?)

I'm not involved in the "next gen" wars at all (minus having a Wii I don't play for a variety of reasons), so it doesn't bother me either way... but no matter how you look at it, this is just another excuse.

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Posted on 09-08-07 12:59:38 AM

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Simplicity v1.1

As long as Sony continues the trio of consoles they're marketing currently, it doesn't matter how badly they're doing. They're getting cash anyways.

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Posted on 09-08-07 12:59:58 AM

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	In all entirety, I think it's fair that reviewers look at games again, if the new patch indeed improves the gameplay greatly. It has been happening for PC games for years. ____________________ ؟

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Posted on 09-08-07 01:00:57 AM

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Originally posted by Kles
In all entirety, I think it's fair that reviewers look at games again, if the new patch indeed improves the gameplay greatly. It has been happening for PC games for years.

This isn't a patch.

It's a "reviewer's guide".

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Posted on 09-08-07 01:01:41 AM

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	I'm aware of that. I think that's silly. I'm just saying, it DOES deserve a re-review. ____________________ ؟

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Posted on 09-08-07 01:18:51 AM; last edit by Silly Shadic on 09-08-07 01:22 AM

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Originally posted by Kles
I'm aware of that. I think that's silly. I'm just saying, it DOES deserve a re-review.

For what? The game is the same.

All Sony is saying, is "Stop making fun of us, please.

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Posted on 09-08-07 01:19:56 AM

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How can threads be taken so out of context? The only reason I went on to say that the PS3 is dead is because Sony themselves branded it as a system saver
It got bad reviews so Sony got pissed and sent out a "reviewers guide." What kind of nerve do you have to have to send out a reviewers guide!?!?

"We made a walkthrough on how to review this game! Just follow the step by step instructions."

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Posted on 09-08-07 01:20:53 AM

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Simplicity v1.1

Originally posted by Tanks

How can threads be taken so out of context?...

Thread title. First post. tl;dr

That's how.

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Posted on 09-08-07 01:23:06 AM

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Originally posted by Tanks
"We made a walkthrough on how to review this game! Just follow the step by step instructions."

Last Step: Give everything Sony a 10/10, or else we'll say that it's a user-error.

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There was a patch actually. "1.92". Apparently it is supposed to make the controls in Lair better. If this wasn't fixed ahead of time and such, then the reviews should stand and the original game unmodified is a bad game. But, Sony wants everyone to rereview with a book with tips on how to play and review the game, and they want everyone to account the new patch. That is bad and you cannot deny it. Sony may be losing the console war, and they aren't doing a good job of fixing it (Even Heavenly Sword is getting mixed reviews). Hiryuu, I would like some sources on the "making money" statement, because from what I read on Joystiq not long ago, Sony is still in debt for the original 7 Core Processor that was eventually reduced down to something nowhere near strong nor conventional. This has been said countless times, they have not made any money back for their original "oops" and the high price of the PS3 is to help cover it. They aren't making money they are paying off debt. I'm going to now say I am not playing fanboy, I like 360/Wii, and I do like the remote control function of the PS3 <-> PSP (Video from PS3 sent to PSP, PSP control sent to PS3). ____________________ I made this layout first, BELIEVE IT!

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Posted on 09-08-07 02:15:52 AM

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	I'm getting a PS3 for an unconventional reason. So, the points which commonly lead to it being trolled online are irrelevant. ____________________

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Posted on 09-08-07 02:38:29 AM

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Originally posted by Eon
I'm getting a PS3 for an unconventional reason. So, the points which commonly lead to it being trolled online are irrelevant.

Thank you for bringing in an entirely useless post.

Fails: I missed where they released the patch. Any information you can link to, because I didn't see it when reading Joystiq's post.

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Posted on 09-08-07 02:49:47 AM; last edit by Tanks on 09-08-07 02:51 AM

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I'm kinda' tired but here's info on the patch. It's the first post. It states the patch is 1.92.

This should do until Sonic can find a more official source.

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Posted on 09-08-07 03:12:03 AM

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Just google "Lair Patch" or PS3 1.92 ____________________ I made this layout first, BELIEVE IT!

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Posted on 09-08-07 03:45:06 AM

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It's a PS3 firmware patch, and I don't think it's been revealed to improve Lair controls definitively or not.

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Posted on 09-08-07 05:21:06 AM

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I rented it. No amount of patching -- In fact, it was a waste of room in my PS3's Hard drive. Only thing that will matter is Oblivion Game of the Year, Ratchet and Clank, and MGS4. Holy Shit ____________________ This layout has been endorsed by the Dark Empress, Queen of the Universe, Ranko-sama and therefore does not, in any given way, suck. Or so I'm supposed to say. Better Days

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Posted on 09-08-07 05:35:56 AM

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If the patch does improve things, then it wouldn't be bad to re-review the game, with a note about how much it sucks if you don't get the patch. But a reviewer's guide? Now that's just stupid.

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Posted on 09-08-07 07:42:06 AM

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Wait--a firmware patch to fix software bugs? For specific titles? Doesn't that seem a little backwards?

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