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Posted on 05-06-10 07:43:09 PM Link | Quote
I've always been curious: if you take something like juice or soda or milk, would a water filter be able to take out all the non-water particles and leave you with pure H2O? Or would it partially filter it, get clogged, and then break? Or would it remove only half of the junk? I kinda want to try this...

Has anyone else done an experiment like this? One that has no purpose, except "just to know"?

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Posted on 05-06-10 07:45:01 PM Link | Quote
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...Chemistry is a bit more complex than that. You can't just filter out everything that isn't hydrogen or oxygen.

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Posted on 05-06-10 07:45:28 PM (last edited by Hiryuu at 05-06-10 04:46 PM) Link | Quote
The ones I've tried against don't do too well.

And yes, people are that curious.

I pretty much tried against a can of Pepsi in a water filter that goes into a pitcher. Well, it tried. The filter was more than saturated and I had brownish water at the end of it.

I'm pretty sure if there was higher class filtration that you would get some water but I would imagine it's not going to be very much.

EDIT: Oh, and it tasted like flat soda.
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Posted on 05-06-10 07:48:12 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Hiryuu
The ones I've tried against don't do too well.

And yes, people are that curious.

I pretty much tried against a can of Pepsi in a water filter that goes into a pitcher. Well, it tried. The filter was more than saturated and I had brownish water at the end of it.

I'm pretty sure if there was higher class filtration that you would get some water but I would imagine it's not going to be very much.

So since water filters are designed to handle low concentrations of non-water particles (like loose ions and such), filtering a ridiculously saturated fluid (comparatively) quickly "uses up" their "filtering power"?

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Posted on 05-06-10 07:51:33 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by MajesticLight
So since water filters are designed to handle low concentrations of non-water particles (like loose ions and such), filtering a ridiculously saturated fluid (comparatively) quickly "uses up" their "filtering power"?


More or less. Though they're 30-60 dollar filtration systems, they're only going to be able to handle so much. Even the really good Brita systems that I've had against really crap well water went through four other filtrations in the basement before it hit the faucet leading to it...and even then I could tell it had an iron taste to it. At least I knew I wouldn't have iron-poor blood.

I'm sure the higher-class ones that a lot of filtering places use that employ Reverse Osmosis and Distillation and five other time-consuming processes does a really good job but it's also a matter of cost.

Even in the wild with a portable, I'd use a bandanna against one that's in a decent clearwater stream just to be on the safe side.
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Posted on 05-06-10 08:09:32 PM Link | Quote
Hope FP doesn't have anything water-filtrated that she's tested that out on.
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Posted on 05-07-10 06:03:28 AM Link | Quote
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What about other liquid chemicals? Drinks are made of more than water + solids you know.

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Posted on 05-07-10 06:40:35 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Hiryuu
Hope FP doesn't have anything water-filtrated that she's tested that out on.

I only have water. So, it would be a filtration success.

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Posted on 05-07-10 06:57:53 AM Link | Quote
IF YOU FILTER WATER

WATER COMES OUT



But, it's clearly more pure. This needs more research....

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The easiest way to filter other liquids out of water is probably to freeze whichever liquid has a higher freezing point, and then to pour it out.

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Posted on 05-07-10 09:30:12 AM Link | Quote

I'm not sure it works that way. If the liquids are miscible, don't they simply freeze together. As in, freeze as one mass but with an altered freezing point? It's been two whole years since I last studied physics and chemistry.

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Posted on 05-07-10 10:29:57 AM Link | Quote
About five for me.

I'm gonna put a bet that someone's put this on the net somewhere and a Google will probably yield results.
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Originally posted by Nitin
I'm not sure it works that way. If the liquids are miscible, don't they simply freeze together. As in, freeze as one mass but with an altered freezing point? It's been two whole years since I last studied physics and chemistry.

It may depend on the liquids involved, but I know that the difference in freezing points between water and alcohol is one way to up the proof in beer and liquor.

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Posted on 05-08-10 02:34:13 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by NSNick
Originally posted by Nitin
I'm not sure it works that way. If the liquids are miscible, don't they simply freeze together. As in, freeze as one mass but with an altered freezing point? It's been two whole years since I last studied physics and chemistry.

It may depend on the liquids involved, but I know that the difference in freezing points between water and alcohol is one way to up the proof in beer and liquor.



Yes, it will depend on whatever liquids are mixed together IIRC.
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