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Posted on 05-01-10 03:52:29 PM Link | Quote
I bought a Macbook Pro and it came today This public service announcement is funded by the Andrews for America Foundation, bringing world domination to Andrew's doorstep.

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Posted on 05-01-10 04:00:50 PM Link | Quote
I used to be a follower of the Temple of Apple until 2009, when I realized it wasn't worth it to continue using Apple products... (I had already sold my iPod nano by then, and I was getting ready to get rid of my Mac...)

The main reason I decided to go Apple was because I felt that XP was giving me too much trouble (but then again, it was an HP from 2006... I didn't realize how shit HP had become since they bought Compaq. =/), and I stayed with Apple until 2009... the main reason I decided to switch back to Mac was because I used a Mac from 1993 to 1998 and loved it. Over time, I figured out that Windows 7 was going to be much better than Snow Leopard, so I decided to have a friend of mine start building a custom computer for me. =D

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Posted on 05-01-10 04:10:32 PM (last edited by Friend2.0 at 05-01-10 01:17 PM) Link | Quote
I am switching to Mac for the first time. I am just tired of PC's in general. I slowly began to realize that I really didn't use all the functions that PCs are well known for. One right off the top of my head is gaming. I really don't play video games anymore so the draw of having a PC for that is virtually null and void. I traded gaming for writing and computer graphics and that is what Apple is good at supporting.

That and Microsoft lost my trust as a consumer when they shoved Vista down our throats...that pretty much did it for me. If Microsoft thinks they can shit in a box and force it on me they are dead wrong. I am through with their bad business policies and ethics. You can't create a bad product and force everyone to use it through bullying tactics and bribery. I don't draw a smiley face on a piece of newspaper and hand it to you saying its the Mona Lisa, so don't try to do the same to me.

*nurses his hatred of Microsoft*

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Posted on 05-01-10 04:15:03 PM Link | Quote
If you can put up with the prices and don't care about compatibility with everything than sure, go for it.




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Posted on 05-01-10 04:19:20 PM Link | Quote
Yeah the prices were steep, which is why I have friends who can give me discounts on stuff like this. Got my top of the line Macbook Pro for 800 bucks

It's good to have connections

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Posted on 05-01-10 05:52:36 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Friend2.0
Yeah the prices were steep, which is why I have friends who can give me discounts on stuff like this. Got my top of the line Macbook Pro for 800 bucks

It's good to have connections

I have a friend who works at Circuit City(?) or some other electronics store. I've been wanting an external hard drive for a while now, and she's going to keep an eye on them for me until they go on SUPER SALE!

So, yeah. Connections are nice.

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Posted on 05-01-10 05:54:19 PM Link | Quote
Only plus I'll let slide for my job that I've pretty much made known is that sometimes 'old and used parts' are allowed to come home with me.

Needless to say I have a good supply to create some nifty stuff on the side for free.
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Posted on 05-01-10 06:12:13 PM Link | Quote
Congrats! Enjoy your new machine!

I have a 4-year-old MacBook Pro and it's never given me one software issue, ever.

Well, except for Flash being a piece of junk, and Logitech's control center daemon too.

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Posted on 05-01-10 07:41:24 PM Link | Quote
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Truthfully, no OS is perfect, but depending on what you like to do, Windows is not always the solution.

I may migrate to some form of Linux eventually, myself.

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Posted on 05-01-10 08:43:54 PM Link | Quote
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My position on laptops is they all suck. I have a macbook pro which was really expensive and I find nothing special at all about it. Even the screen sucks. Sure it has a microscopic dot pitch but the color reproduction is lousy compared to my desktop monitor (When I can get the video card to play well with it.). The specs are alright, but nothing special for the cost. Build quality seems alright... helps that it's solid metal, I guess, but even the cheaper models have the same construction.

As for non-Mac laptops, well, they're cheaper but suck too. The majority of them have piss-poor build quality all around.

Software library? Meh it's more or less the same, there are just a handful of Apple exclusives, but nothing special, considering you have to buy them separate along with the expensive hardware.

So really, the best solution is the good desktop + netbook combo. Use the desktop for gaming and heavy work and the netbook for when you need something portable.

If you really must have a mac, get the cheapest thing you can get, or just hackintosh it.

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Posted on 05-01-10 10:08:44 PM Link | Quote
I personally prefer laptops to desktops. Desks in general bother me so I get really antsy when sitting at one. I suppose it doesn't help that I have ADHD which makes me move CONSTANTLY Firepheonix can attest to that. Sitting at a desk or workstation is really constricting for me and makes me claustrophobic so a lap top is preferred because I can get up and go just about anywhere. Plus, I REALLY HATE dicking around on other peoples computers because it feels like I am intruding and stomping on their babies heads or something...I don't know its just me. A laptop is best because I am VERY territorial over my computer. No one touches Beatrice 2.0...NO ONE! I get the feeling that a desk top is for more than one person so I tend to stay away from them. Maybe my feelings are just part of some twisted psychosis but its nevertheless how I feel about desktops.

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Posted on 05-02-10 04:35:14 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Friend2.0
That and Microsoft lost my trust as a consumer when they shoved Vista down our throats...that pretty much did it for me. If Microsoft thinks they can shit in a box and force it on me they are dead wrong.


Well, I am a Windows fanboy so my post will be biased. I will admit that Windows isn't perfect, but it is in no way inferior to Mac OSX. Some features, such as movie editing, sound editing etc, are in favor of Mac. But thats about it. Graphic wise, speed, power, they're neck and neck. Windows 7 is a huge step up from Vista, but I never used Vista. I stuck it out with XP until I was ready to go to 7. Most laptop companies would allow you to downgrade to XP if you wanted. Even then, you could have reinstalled it yourself if you wanted.

In no means am I trying make you feel bad on your purchase. Which OS you use is just like everything else, it comes down to personal preference. I just never liked the way Mac OS works. I do hope you enjoy your new mac book and will say "Anything you can do, I can do... too" hehe

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Posted on 05-02-10 04:52:18 AM Link | Quote
Fanboyism is dumb. If you like Mac, use it; if you don't, don't. Anything you want to do on one, you can do on the other (with possibly the exceptions of gaming and specialized business apps, if you don't want to use Boot Camp). And personally, I get confused as hell when I use a Mac, I find Windows much easier, because I've been using it for so long.

And Vista really didn't suck. It was pretty awesome. The problem is 1. Microsoft insisted it would run on a Pentium M with 1 gig of RAM when it definitely wouldn't, and 2. Microsoft finally got rid of some of the shitty practices from the 9x era and started doing things right, and people flipped shit because it was different. OMG I HAVE TO CLICK AN EXTRA BUTTON WHEN I INSTALL SOFTWARE? Clearly it's because Microsoft sucks, and not because there was a huge library of viruses for XP that installed silently in the background because all processes had elevated privileges!
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Posted on 05-02-10 12:33:50 PM (last edited by paulguy at 05-02-10 09:38 AM) Link | Quote
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I think the major issue with windows, even XP, is that it gave you Administrator accounts by default, unlike most linux distributions where it pretty much yells at you for using root to do stuff that's not administrative and gives you plenty of opportunity right away to give you passworded accounts.

Windows 7 I guess tried to fix that by still giving you retardoadministrator access by default, but made everything convoluted to do anything ever, rather than having you on a plain limited account and having you use something like su to have a real administrator run a program as needed, like an installer, which windows does have with the right click -> run as administrator option, but administrator is STILL pretty limited in a lot of areas like modifying system files and stuff, but then you have free reign it seems in Program Files because shitty old programs want to be able to write to their own directory and there's no sandboxing for older apps (which is what they should've done for for compatibility in the first place... something like Wine where it has it's own virtual root and compatibility settings.).

The whole thing seems like a fight between trying to keep stuff stupid and convenient and trying to make things more secure (though I guess in a lazy way.). Honestly, when it comes to security, they should be a bit harder on it and the users who find it inconvenient to have to run in a limited account and enter the administrator password to access folders outside of their Users folder should suck it up and get used to it. This one thing will probably protect against a large amount of viruses more than anything they've done so far.

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Posted on 05-02-10 12:42:40 PM Link | Quote
In Windows 9x, there was nothing stopping you from Deltreeing your entire hard drive while the operating system was running... lucky 2000/XP and beyond don't let you do that...

At least I knew how to disable UAC on Windows 7... and at least it's not like Linux, where I have to type my password every time I want to change a setting or install something. =/

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... and at least it's not like Linux, where I have to type my password every time I want to change a setting or install something. =/

It's really not that often, and I think you can configure a lot of stuff like gksu and all that to remember your password, which I think is even the default to the extent that it'll remember it for a little bit. Though that's really not that great, in the case that there is some exploit that allows a script to run and wreak havoc.

I really think users need to stop being protected from mild inconveniences while hurting security and allow all these viruses and whatnot to propagate the way they do.

Oh yeah and fucking hiding extensions by default is so annoying. :/ There have been instances where someone needed help with something and I tried to direct them and the only way I could address a file was by extension but since windows hides them, they had no idea what I meant. Most useless feature ever and it's been enabled since what? At least windows 98? Maybe even 95 but I don't recall. This is also bad for the virus.jpg.exe problem. I would say this is "protecting from mild inconvenience" but I don't see any inconvenience in displaying extensions... I honestly have no idea what they're thinking having this option at all.

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Posted on 05-02-10 04:08:09 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Friend2.0
Yeah the prices were steep, which is why I have friends who can give me discounts on stuff like this. Got my top of the line Macbook Pro for 800 bucks

It's good to have connections

Man, that's a huge discount. D:


Lucky you, I'm jealous.

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Posted on 05-03-10 01:18:56 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by paulguy

Windows 7 I guess tried to fix that by still giving you retardoadministrator access by default, but made everything convoluted to do anything ever, rather than having you on a plain limited account and having you use something like su to have a real administrator run a program as needed, like an installer, which windows does have with the right click -> run as administrator option, but administrator is STILL pretty limited in a lot of areas like modifying system files and stuff, but then you have free reign it seems in Program Files because shitty old programs want to be able to write to their own directory and there's no sandboxing for older apps (which is what they should've done for for compatibility in the first place... something like Wine where it has it's own virtual root and compatibility settings.).

The administrator account wasn't limited in Vista or 7. The difference between an account with admin privileges and a non-privileged account was you had to type the administrator password at the UAC prompt with a non-privileged account, while you just clicked a button with a privileged account. And Vista did do the virtual directory thing, invisibly redirecting things to a user's Documents and Settings directory (basically like /home). People who knew about it flipped shit because WAAAH ITS DIFFERENT BAWWW!


The whole thing seems like a fight between trying to keep stuff stupid and convenient and trying to make things more secure (though I guess in a lazy way.). Honestly, when it comes to security, they should be a bit harder on it and the users who find it inconvenient to have to run in a limited account and enter the administrator password to access folders outside of their Users folder should suck it up and get used to it. This one thing will probably protect against a large amount of viruses more than anything they've done so far.

Exactly my point. Microsoft took steps - baby steps, really - to make Windows more secure, and everyone from grandpas who only know "I click on the blue E to do internets" and tech-savvy people who should've known better flipped their shit.
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